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<JacobWeisz[m]>
So there's an issue #138 on the app market repo that is fun.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
Apparently since the market abuses Sandstorm's general infrastructure you can totally overwrite your Sandstorm server with an app market release. Who knew?
<JacobWeisz[m]>
I am not sure, but I think that means you need to run the app market on a different machine than your Sandstorm install.
<kentonv>
technically it is possible to have multiple sandstorm installs on a single machine, in separate directories and on separate ports
<JacobWeisz[m]>
The app market readme describes being able to manage it with the sandstorm command being a big convenience, but that probably gets more baffling with multiple installs.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
I am curious if you installed the market over Sandstorm, as this user did, if you install a Sandstorm bundle over that, will all your data be there?
<kentonv>
I think so
<kentonv>
it's possible the market code will have added some garbage to mongo, hopefully under collection names that sandstorm doesn't use
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<ill_logic>
I remember talk of making the market into a sandstorm app, but otherwise why does it need sandstorm features?
<ill_logic>
I assumed it was its own standalone, static website.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
I think it was a convenience thing. It's not really built on Sandstorm. It just uses a lot of the mechanics of Sandstorm deployment.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
And can hilariously be 'updated to' from Sandstorm.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
Note that while it currently could be a static app, it has ratings and reviews and stuff that originally were not static.
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<isd>
It's a meteor app.
<isd>
...probably wasn't the right call, but the upshot is you have to deal with all of the usual deployment issues around meteor, and a lot of that has been dealt with by stuff written for Sandstorm.
<isd>
...given that meteor's business model is to provide hosting for meteor apps, it's probably not surprising that manual deployment isn't trivial.
<JacobWeisz[m]>
I feel like had Sandstorm taken off, and you're looking at something similar to other app stores like the Play Store and such, and adding a payment model and whatnot, it would've made more sense?
<JacobWeisz[m]>
It's sensible for a startup to build with the expectation of success, that's why someone gave them money.
<kentonv>
making it a single-page JavaScript-y app was a bad idea TBH
<isd>
Honestly even when you start to grow into something more e-commerce-y, an SPA doesn't really buy you much over server-side rendering. And it's slower. And it kills SEO.
<kentonv>
yeah SPA was the wrong choice for a storefront