clifford changed the topic of #yosys to: Yosys Open SYnthesis Suite: http://www.clifford.at/yosys/ -- Channel Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/yosys
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<kc5tja> That awkward moment when you discover that you've already written a serial interface adapter (SIA) core, dating back a year ago. I'd forgotten about that.
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<cr1901_modern> fascinating, I shift 4 pins down in a PCF, and all of a sudden nextpnr can't route my design
* cr1901_modern makes a mental note to dup later
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<shapr> cr1901_modern: sounds like nextpnr needs some fuzzing as well
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<cr1901_modern> >(3:48:23 PM) cr1901_modern: What I want now is to figure out which nets in the FPGA are the culprit and a "rip out nets that don't matter" mode to create a minimal offending bitstream in nextpnr
<cr1901_modern> How practical/impractical is this feature?
<shapr> it's called shrinking in property based test tools
<qu1j0t3> sounds damn useful
<shapr> you've found a randomly generated input value that breaks something, now you want the minimum value that causes the problem
<shapr> cr1901_modern: very practical, lots of interesting research and built into most property testing tools
<daveshah> cr1901_modern: just curious, what utilisation percentage is this design?
<cr1901_modern> daveshah: About 52%
<daveshah> cr1901_modern: what failure mode is this? an explicit unrouteable error or just stuck at 1 or a couple of unrouted nets until hitting the iteration limit?
<cr1901_modern> daveshah: iteration limit
<daveshah> cr1901_modern: I suspect this is a quality issue with the placer just creating an overly congested placement
<cr1901_modern> Well, I made a mental note and moved on. The "I still can't f***ing get tinyfpga to boot from SPIflash" problem is more dire
<cr1901_modern> (with apologies to tinyfpga that he gets notified everytime I bitch)
<tinyfpga> cr1901_modern: XD
<cr1901_modern> Just once I would like something to go completely right...
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<shapr> ZipCPU: did you end up reading that speech "You and Your Research" ?
<ZipCPU> Probably not :(
<ZipCPU> I just get so consumed with the here and now ... I've got a whole stack of books by my bedside for which I've read about half of the first chapter.
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<shapr> fair enough
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<ZipCPU> Sorry.
<shapr> ZipCPU: no worries, I know you're busy
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<ZipCPU> shapr: I'm actually working on a fun project. I'm trying to build (and of course verify) an HDMI signal generator. Working on the packet layer now, and hoping I can get away with (slightly) breaking the HDMI spec by not placing data packets in my HDMI stream.
<ZipCPU> The good news is that I think the encoder is working already.
<shapr> silly question .... FPGAs are often used as accelerator chips to speed up particular workload... is there some way to speed up place and route with an FPGA?
<shapr> I found a research paper from a few years ago about speeding up simulated annealing with FPGAs
<sorear> ancient question