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<andlabs>
!! that's not in the linux usb hids list
<andlabs>
you have a new device
<andlabs>
1e4e Cubeternet
<andlabs>
0100 WebCam
<andlabs>
0102 GL-UPC822 UVC WebCam
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<cr1901_modern>
PC history question... what is the earliest example of hot-pluggable hardware for the PC platform (especially DOS) that does not involve exclusively storage (meaning don't count floppy disks, cdroms, or bernoulli boxes)?
<cr1901_modern>
cc: Foone
<Foone>
something pluggable to serial or parallel, I guess? you could swap printers or hook in a serial mouse, then remove it for a modem
<cr1901_modern>
Was there ever any drivers that could detect a hotplug event in DOS world? Like, I don't even think Bret Johnson's USB drivers for DOS can do this gracefully.
<Foone>
not that I can think of. drivers are barely a thing on dos, so hotplugging them wasn't big
<sorear>
was there any LAN stuff early enough?
<cr1901_modern>
Ethernet is early 80's; oldest adapter I have is from '85
<sorear>
presumably that was hotpluggable at some level, having to shut down every machine on a subnet to add a new one would suck
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<andlabs>
were serial / parallel devices hotpluggable?
<andlabs>
or did it jus thappen to not break 99.99999% of the time so we got away with it
<Foone>
the latter, I think
<andlabs>
thought so
<andlabs>
though that does make me wonder about this usb serial adapter I have for a project I need to get to once I have a place of my own or enough room to permanently unpack all my MIDI modules...
<andlabs>
good night for now
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<kode54>
I mean
<kode54>
serial and parallel devices were sort of tolerant of the hotplugging
<kode54>
the only notice either side would have is an interruption in the acknowledge/clock lines
<kode54>
ffs, one of the braindead parallel sound devices was just a resistor ladder DAC attached to the data lines