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<Mazon>
mnemoc: talked a bit to Tsvetan on #olimex, haven't yet decided on whether or not the A10-OLinuXino will have 1 GB ram or not ... but: "but sure it's good to have board with 1GB"
<Turl>
mnemoc: btw, how much free ram do you get on mele?
<Turl>
(with mali etc disabled)
<mnemoc>
Mazon: i really hope he makes it 1GB
<mnemoc>
Turl: very near 512 iirc
<Turl>
mnemoc: "511288" on free?
<mnemoc>
Turl: possible
<Turl>
mnemoc: htop reports "499MB"
<mnemoc>
then that's it :)
<Turl>
:)
<Turl>
mnemoc: I disabled highmem on the mele
<mnemoc>
for IC manufacturers 512MB is usually 512*10^6 while for `top` it's 512*2^20
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<rm>
what
<phh>
mnemoc: no
<phh>
for memory it really is 512*2^20
<rm>
^
<rm>
except when measured in megabits
<phh>
.
<phh>
mnemoc: it's harder to make a memory that is non power of two than power of two -_-'
<mnemoc>
phh: fair point :)
<mnemoc>
I confused with hard drives :p
<Turl>
its cheaper to make non power of two HDDs and confuse people :D
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<mnemoc>
nice, github added commit/diff/file viewing to their android app :)
<WarheadsSE>
i was wondering why it just updated
<WarheadsSE>
that was a sorely missed feature
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<hehopmajieh_>
Hi All :)
<hehopmajieh_>
I have one question about Allwinner Axx
<hehopmajieh_>
and LCD interface
<WarheadsSE>
so mali
<hehopmajieh_>
specially hsync and vsyns pulse width
<hehopmajieh_>
WarheadsSE: problem is not mali related
<hehopmajieh_>
:)
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<Turl>
lundman: ping
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<hno>
HeHoPMaJIeH, not much is known about the LCD/CRT/HDMI controller unfortunately.
<hno>
the available published documentation fits on a single page.
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<hno>
so the only reference we have is the sourcecode.
<hno>
http://fpaste.org/StOO/ shows some parameters from the chineese lcd doument I found here (from Novo source drop). It's outdated as all these are now in script.bin.
<hno>
pretty sure there is a more up to date document availale somewhere.
<hno>
don't have all files with me here.
<hno>
drivers/video/sun5i/lcd/a10_lcd_config_nanual_v1.0.pdf maybe in the A13 SDK.
<hehopmajieh_>
hno: sorry i dont see your reply
<hno>
yes, that document is better.
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, sorry, didn't notice you had two nicks here either.
<hehopmajieh_>
:)
<hehopmajieh_>
i don't want to miss a thing :)
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<hno>
I have an IRC bouncer taking care of that for me.
<Turl>
hno: +1 same
<hehopmajieh_>
no i will try with lcd_hv_hspw :)
<mnemoc>
ssh + screen + irssi here
<Turl>
you need ssh to connect
<hehopmajieh_>
i use 2 computers, and is more comfortable to use two nicks :)
<mnemoc>
except you miss half of the directed messages and queries
<hno>
the bouncer works fine for any number of concurrent connections from various devices which is nice, and automatic backlogs on reconnect.
<Turl>
and automagic logging :D
<hno>
that too.
<Turl>
and flood protection, and other cool stuff
<Turl>
like my IP
<hno>
yes
<hno>
but now back to lcd..
<mnemoc>
hno: what irc bouncer do you use? the classic bnc or something else?
<Turl>
mnemoc: ZNC
* rm
znc too
<hno>
3.2.7. Lcd_hv_hspw
<hno>
Horizontal Sync Pulse Width
<hno>
Means the line width of the sync signal.
<hno>
The unit is a dclk time
<hno>
(That is, a data cycle time)
<hno>
.
<hno>
Figure 3-1.
<hno>
google translate did a reasonable job there.
<hno>
a10_lcd_config_nanual_v1.0.pdf is in mostly chineese
<mnemoc>
Turl, rm: thanks, I might give it a try.... the ssh+screen+irssi combo doesn't work that well on phones
<hehopmajieh_>
hno: moment to test it :)
<Turl>
the beauty of znc-like solutions is that you get to choose your client :)
<Turl>
you could still use ssh+screen+irssi connecting it to znc
<WarheadsSE>
yeah, for android, best to do that in fex
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, how nice of them.
<hehopmajieh_>
pretty nice :)
<tzafrir_laptop>
Turl, but then I'll forget about it and it will fail to get an IP address in a different network
<tzafrir_laptop>
I still don't understand why it just can't give me the hardware one
<tzafrir_laptop>
Is this something you would expect?
<hno>
tzafrir_laptop, there is no NIC eeprom. So you need to supply the MAC some way. script.bin is the best.
<hno>
other options are kernel command line, or somewhere in your OS startup/settings.
<tzafrir_laptop>
So it must be in the SD card. OK
<hno>
You could probably write something to extract the MAC from where it's configured in the NAND, but easier to add it to script.bin.
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, so how do they figure out the LCD parameters if that is not set?
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, also note the comment is negated. That line needs to be active to use settings from script.bin. It's a copy-paste from top of the file.
<hehopmajieh_>
hno: i change parameter in module source
<hehopmajieh_>
now rebuilding kernel
<hno>
Hmm.. now I am really confused.
<hno>
It's the comment at the top that is negated.
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, so you activated the define and set parameters in the source instead of script.bin?
<hehopmajieh_>
yes i see it :) copy/paste never helps :)
<hehopmajieh_>
nope
<hehopmajieh_>
only set parameters in source
<mnemoc>
/o\
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, that source is not compiled unless you activate the define at top.
<hno>
default is to pick values from script.bin.
<hno>
LCD_get_panel_para function.
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<hehopmajieh_>
hno: its working :)
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, B)
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, so looks like VGA will work?
<hehopmajieh_>
it needs more tweaking but works
<hno>
with a chip that lacks VGA output capability ;)
<mnemoc>
hehopmajieh_: can you please do it in script.bin?
<hehopmajieh_>
k
<mnemoc>
yes, that trick they did to get VGA is awesome
<revident>
I got my two VIA ACP boards yesterday, anyone else in channel have one and has Fedora progress to share?
<mnemoc>
what a waste of money...
<hno>
mnemoc, why?
<revident>
sorry, wrong channel.
<mnemoc>
hno: I like the form factor indeed, but it's content...
<mnemoc>
hno: with cortex-a[58] so cheap these days making such thing with a armv5/v6 is.... odd
<WarheadsSE>
They haven't gotten them to Arch Linux ARM yet
<WarheadsSE>
we've already got the kernel + FS ready to go
<WarheadsSE>
But, since we have _no_funding, and are the new guys, we get everything late.
<hno>
WarheadsSE, they just started shipping. No one have them up and running yet I think.
<xenoxaos>
we're getting 2
<revident>
that seems to be the Case
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<xenoxaos>
and the kernel guy should be getting back to me soon
<revident>
The Fedora Dev team here in Toronto still has to pick them up from the post office, but they are here.
<revident>
the VIA APC forums don't yet have knowledgeable folks posting yet. I'm still waiting form my email confirmation so that I can start posting.
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<hno>
Wow.. Wondermedia have even less information than Allwinner on their web. How in earth is that board going to fly
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<hno>
And why why why so little of the I/O exposed.
<xenoxaos>
good question....
<hno>
Ok, enought VIA distraction tonight. A1x still looks strong.
<hno>
and i:MX 6 for future power horse.
<hehopmajieh_>
hno: now vga working properly :) and device works great :)
<traeak>
or lckluke's vapor mips dealy...
<traeak>
whenever that ever comes out
* xenoxaos
is looking forward to our imx6
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<tzafrir_laptop>
What desktop would you recommend to run on a A1000? Needs to be in Debian Wheezy. needs to work well and look relatively well for a short demo
<tzafrir_laptop>
Would KDE / Gnome fit the bill?
<WarheadsSE>
it's heavy
<WarheadsSE>
xfce/lxde ?
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<tzafrir_laptop>
lxde loads fast. xfce is not that much different than gnome3, wheight-wise
<WarheadsSE>
In the end though, it won't be fast response wise without the video acceleration
<tzafrir_laptop>
Any recommendations from things folks here used?
<tzafrir_laptop>
lxde asks to pull some 710MB of packages. hmmm
<WarheadsSE>
wow, larger than I though
<WarheadsSE>
I ran xfce4 on mine, with arch..
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, congratulations!
<hno>
hehopmajieh_, you deserve some beers tonight as well I think
<mnemoc>
hehopmajieh_: \o/
<mnemoc>
kudos!
<ZaEarl>
e17 would be something to try
<traeak>
xfce4 is fine
<mnemoc>
ZaEarl: they even (finally) announced an stable e17 coming :)
<traeak>
wireframe move and resize
<traeak>
for window manager
<traeak>
helps quite a bit
<mnemoc>
hehopmajieh_: so tomorrow to test the GPIOs and it's done? :)
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<lundman>
turl: pong?
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<coolhp>
Good evening everyone. Would anyone happen to have any experience with installing/running debian/ubuntu on an MK802 ?
<mnemoc>
coolhp: just ask the real question ;-)
<mnemoc>
coolhp: the mk802 and the mele-a[12]k are probably the most common devices here
<coolhp>
Hi Mnemoc, thanks for the answer :-) I'm trying a very simply experiment which I seem to be failling miserably at. I'm trying to run Jeff's A10 rescue image which should be an extremely minimalist linux off of an SD on an MK802.
<coolhp>
I've dd'd the image onto my SD card... it seems to have u-boot and the spl at the right offsets (did a quick spotcheck via hexdump)
<coolhp>
I know the board works since it will boot Android if I let it boot without the SD
<coolhp>
If I use one of the Lubuntu 12.04 images out there, they work like a charm.... The thing is, these images are bloated with stuff and dont seem to use the same boot logic (the dos partition only has an evb.bin file and a uImage).
<coolhp>
In any case, trying to run that simple rescue image doesnt seem to work for me... and I'm at a loss to why. Is there a way to have u-boot save the console/output to a file on the same SD in order to troubleshoot what's going on ?