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<furan> I guess besides boxchip and allwinner another name for the a10 is Chi a10
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<popolon> hi
<popolon> http://cubieboard.org/ <= is there any date for diffusion ?
* furan pokes hipboi_
<popolon> I don't understand after the really light specs, if there will be a sata connector or if an external board (connecting to the 96 extended pin) is needed.
<furan> looks like it is already for sale?
<furan> I don't see a sata connector
<popolon> about the same informations :)
<popolon> 96 extend pin including i2c, spi, lcd, sata, sensors, ..
<popolon> add to cart => send to paypal with an error ?
<popolon> is there a more strandard method (credit card) to buy it ?
<popolon> there are at least two AllwinnerA10 based mother board with SATA connector
<popolon> on is a developpement board expansive (6000 RMB => ~600 $ with lcd screen, and lot of connectors
<furan> hipboi_ will know (it's named after him)
<furan> but I think he is busy or not here
<popolon> the other a video oriented box , MeLe A1000
<popolon> ok, will go to bed, and come back tomorrow then :)
<popolon> thanx a lot
<Turl> I think there will be a sata connector
<hno> cubieboard do have sata connector. The pictured board is a prototype where the connector have not been mounted.
<Turl> but hipboi_ will have to confirm :)
<hno> I asked a week ago.
<Turl> hno: what sata 'version' does A10 have btw=
<Turl> ?*
<furan> sata 2 iirc
<popolon> Mele A1000 is based on Rhombus-Tech openhardware
<popolon> so that's the cubieboard isn't it ?
<furan> a1000 came before cubieboard
<furan> rhombus tech doesn't make the mele
<popolon> the article isn't clear so
<furan> they're just cool engineers
<popolon> Mele seem to be a chinese company
<furan> yes
<WarheadsSE> they are china yes
<popolon> Probably at the same city than AllWinner (Zhuhai)
<popolon> oh no, they are at Shenzhen, the other side of the pearl river delta
<popolon> ~1 hour by boat ;p
<popolon> So if cubiboard is to be sold, could be good to update specs/pics and to have a working method to buy it :)
<WarheadsSE> heh
<hno> I don't think the cubieboard store have opened just yet.
<hno> any day
<popolon> there is a add to card button... that don't work :)
<WarheadsSE> heh
<WarheadsSE> patience padawan
<popolon> ok, will try to wait before buying a Mele :)
<popolon> s/before/instead of/
<ibot> popolon meant: ok, will try to wait instead of buying a Mele :)
<popolon> huhu
<popolon> nice bot
<Marex> ibot: help
<Marex> where can I find x
<Marex> ibot: where can I find x?
<Marex> bah :)
<popolon> :)
<popolon> goodnight all
<Marex> that xxx.com example is really funny in the "help" command ;-)
<Marex> back to my japaneese studies ... my head might soon explode :(
<lundman> 日本語を連取!
<furan> heh
<Turl> lundman: most of us don't understand chinese
<Turl> </troll>
<furan> 船尾
<lundman> そーだね
<furan> 精子
<popolon> 我明白中文;)
<popolon> lot of terms are wrote the same in chinese and japanese
<Turl> こんにちは。私は日本語を話せません。
<popolon> ^^
<Marex> lundman: I really wanted to take a goddamn break!
<popolon> こんにち=>今日 ?
<Marex> I'll go sleep over it, I pushed it too much today
<Turl> lundman: そーだね = "I soda" ? wtf lol
<Marex> Turl: your translation is flat wrong ;-)
<furan> what's it mean
<Turl> Marex: of course :D I used google translate ;)
<furan> what does it mean?
<popolon> soodane ?
<Marex> lundman: japaneese excercises ... that's it, right ?
<Marex> lundman: don't laugh tho, I'm not completely sure
<lundman> ye
<Marex> lundman: really ?
<Marex> :)
<lundman> japanese practise if you will
<lundman> you guys are distractingme for installing work servers :)
<Marex> excercises is more physical ... all right
<popolon> 曹達を飲みますか?
<Marex> lundman: ehehe ... very well, afk, sleep or reviewing
<Marex> lundman: and thanks
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<lundman> anything not to do chores :)
<pino_otto> hello
<pino_otto> i am new here
<popolon> 曹達=そうだ
<pino_otto> i have a question about the Mele A2000
<Marex> popolon: so:da ... that's it
<Marex> popolon: and sou da is written in hiragana ... but I ain't expert
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<Marex> pino_otto: go ahead and ask :)
<pino_otto> does the Mele A2000 has the CE mark?
<lundman> any progress on A10 anyway? any new xbmc?
<pino_otto> CE certification to sell it in Europe, not CE = China Export
<Marex> hno: any progress on upstreaming a10 uboot ? ;-)
<furan> I'm guessing offensive+perveted
<popolon> Marex that's a suprise for me, I supposed that soda was a foreigner word so should bi in katakana
<furan> ( そーだね)
<popolon> but that's in kanji
<popolon> mi english japanese (and japanese=> english) dictionnaries both have it in kanji
<popolon> will try the ultimate test => wikipedia
<Marex> popolon: but it's no "soda" as in drink ... gulp gulp
<lundman> you guys are off on quite the tangent
<lundman> we all desperate to avoid work today?
<Marex> lundman: 3:20 in the morning here ... and waaay too much work to do tomorrow
<furan> I just finished a huge product push, so until we start planning for the next one I am in super lazy funtime mode
<popolon> ソーダ <= this should be the drink
<lundman> 皆さんお疲れさまです
<Marex> I'm in "it's compiling" mode ;-)
<furan> this 9 is fancy
<furan> すhe has a hat
<popolon> I seen some article about huawei SoC too (hivision, a bit more powerfull HiSilicon K3v2 => Cortex A9 4cores and 16cores gpu
<furan> tophat nine, that's what his friends call him
<furan> can't wait for sun6i
<Marex> popolon: huawei going for it's own soc ? :S
<popolon> hivision, a division
<popolon> they will sell it in Ascend D Quad XL
<Marex> what's that ?
<popolon> (a phone)
<popolon> and in a tablet
<Marex> Descent A :p
<popolon> (at least)
<Marex> that's what it's gonna be if they screw up ;-)
<popolon> oh !
<popolon> there is wrote TAIWAN :)
<popolon> this is a mainland company (shenzhen)
<popolon> but use Foxconn (shenzhen manufcacture from taiwanese company) just beside them to manufacture their products
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<popolon> (the same place than Samsung, Apple, Nokia, etc...
<popolon> don't understand why there is this TAIWAN word then
<popolon> too much picture, not enough specifications :)
<popolon> still not sold, already an answer at troubleshooting :D
<popolon> Simple problem-solving
<popolon> Through the settings, restart, restore, update and so on. These simple methods can solve more than half of your problems.
<popolon> huhu
<Turl> pino_otto: my Mele box says "CE"
<Turl> no idea if it's china export or the european union thingy though :)
<Marex> Turl: crappy electronics ;-)
<ZaEarl> Designed for Windows CE
<Marex> ZaEarl: that's a complete excrement :p
<popolon> there is a trick to recognize them on wikipedia
<popolon> yes
<Turl> looks like an european one to me
<Turl> isn't the CE mark self assigned anyway?
<popolon> probably :))
<pino_otto> Turl: thanks for your information
<popolon> bye
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<Marex> who cares anyway ... what are you afraid of ?
<hno> Marex, none yet. But I do have JTAG running now.
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<furan> hey hno, do you know much about the nand controller? every part I've studied in nand_id.c has table entries that do not match what is in the datasheets for the parts
<furan> (for the a10)
<Marex> hno: おおお
<Marex> damn
<Marex> hno: ooo
<Marex> hno: good :)
<Marex> I'm just fixing a bit of an upstream breakage ... it's a crazy thing to run CI builds :/
<Marex> gnight
<Marex> おやすみなさい (google translate should pick this like that ;-) )
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<furan> sweet, got UART working for the first time
<Boulet> :)
<Boulet> our dear old uart !!!!
<furan> haha
<furan> hey Turl are you around?
<furan> or anyone, does anyone know how the sdcard partition gets set up in android where the rest of the flash is used?
<furan> it doesn't seem to be a partition defined in the config
<ZaEarl> furan, I'm not sure I understand your question. LiveSuit typically handles the partitioning of the flash.
<furan> right, but the partitions in the config file never contain the partition used for the 'internal sdcard'
<furan> and yet it gets a nand partition
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<ZaEarl> which "config file"?
<furan> sys_config.fex
<furan> which is used on the device side by an axf when livesuit asks the device to run it
<furan> it is the 'UDISK' partition, it is always the last partition, and it is not defined in this file
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<furan> found it
<furan> in tools.dll in livesuit, when it asks for partitions to be set up, it adds 'UDISK' to the end, it's hardcoded
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<hno> furan, not very familiar with the NAND controller unfortunately. Focusing on DRAM & USB at the moment.
<hno> NAND is next.
<furan> np. slowly working things out.
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<hno> RaYmAn, do you happen to have the SD JTAG boot block snippet nearby?
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<RaYmAn> yeah, sec
<RaYmAn> want the packaged one or the source?
<hno> both would be handy.
<RaYmAn> I'll add the code to sunxi-tools, if that makes sense?
<hno> yes
<RaYmAn> there
<RaYmAn> Optimizations were being stupid, so it ended up being an assembly program
<hno> fel-loop?
<hno> jtag-loop i would think
<hno> and there is no license blurb..
<hno> RaYmAn?
<RaYmAn> yeah, ok, I forgot that bit
<RaYmAn> :P
<RaYmAn> ok, fixed
<hno> an intersting effect of having jtag wired is that it works having both sdcard and jtag probe connected at same time.
<hno> RaYmAn, what optimization issues? Translated it to C and ends up being almost exact same instructions, only differing in registers used and order of the constants
<hno> C version pushed.
<RaYmAn> yeah, I guess that works =P
<RaYmAn> i was doing the pretty way in C ;)
<RaYmAn> with fancy OR'ing and stuff
<RaYmAn> Was being stupid :)
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<hno> Ah, regarding stupid.. somehow the JTAG probe works better if it's connected. Tried usign it with bot USB and JTAG cables disconencted from the probe...
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<RaYmAn> lol
<RaYmAn> surprising ;)
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<hno> Hmm.. why isn't it booting from SD?
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<hno> Seems the SD was poorly seated in the socket or something.
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<lundman> my SDonly work every second power on :)
<lundman> but we had that discussion before
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<rz2k> :/
<Mazon> never have open registration for a wiki ..
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<rm> Mazon, yes, if only someone invented some sort of automated test to tell bots apart from humans
<rm> maybe they could call it a Captcha or something
<Mazon> Meh, have that on a board and wiki I manage, doesn't work
<Mazon> unless you do your own capthca
<Mazon> if you use an existing one, it will be broken
<rm> reCAPTCHA?
<Mazon> already broken
<Mazon> I added a fairly simple, but project related, question to the signup process - never had any spam since :)
<RaYmAn> sometimes you start to wonder if those spam companies just hire real people to do the spam
<Mazon> they do, acutally
<RaYmAn> I mean, if it makes sense to hire people to farm goal in e.g. wow, surely it could make sense to have real people do spam :P
<Mazon> actually
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<Mazon> real people posting shit - but since the signup question is technical and project related, they never get in
<Mazon> works awesomely
<Mazon> AND it filters out all the rookies too
<Mazon> I do find random posts on the net, where people ask what the solution is
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<lundman> A13?
<lundman> 3 better than A10?
<RaYmAn> it's a10's little brother :P
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<lundman> its less good?
<RaYmAn> it has few features removed, yes
<lundman> which is better than a10
<RaYmAn> no HDMI, no SATA and possibly other things
<orly_owl> so the soc with /less/ features has the /higher/ number. great.
<orly_owl> at that price i might buy one
<specing> orly_owl: marketing :P
<orly_owl> hmm probably
<orly_owl> what touchscreen ui for a tablet will run on debian?
<specing> How else do you explain the advertise 1.5GHz clock?
<orly_owl> true
<orly_owl> its actually 1ghz iirc
<RaYmAn> you just need to add clocks up, then it surely ends at 1.5ghz ;P
<rm> specing, don't forget it's also "Many Core"
<rm> i.e. ARM core + Mali core
<lundman> so we want A1 ?
<rm> and two is already "many"
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<specing> rm: you can't just add cores like that
<rm> or do they count video core as third, I forgot
<specing> It doesen't work that way
<rm> works for marketing!
<rm> that's my point :)
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<specing> ...
<lundman> mmmm kläddkaka
<orly_owl> so, debian for a tablet?
<orly_owl> *debian ui
<ZaEarl> nothing really
<orly_owl> aha
<rm> GNOME3!
<rm> *trollface*
<orly_owl> unity
<rm> that too
<rm> but afaik it's not in Debian
<ZaEarl> As much as I hate Unity for the desktop, it's probably the closest to usable.
<orly_owl> i almost forgot about kde plasma active http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active
<ZaEarl> Active is promising.
<orly_owl> if only i could find a screenshot
<rz2k> whats the status of sun5i ?
<rz2k> I mean, we have kernel/uboot/is spl changed from a10?
<specing> best tablet UI?
<specing> a portable keyboard.
<specing> How much ram does that thing even consume?
* orly_owl shrugs
<orly_owl> it /is/ kde
<specing> yeah
<specing> KDE4 made me switch to gnome
<specing> gnome3 made me switch to xfce
<specing> finally I abandoned all hope on normal WMs and went with tiling instead
<orly_owl> heh
<orly_owl> you didnt switch from xfce to lxde?
<specing> no, though I have it installed on computers that are likely to be used by others
<orly_owl> ah
<hno> rz2k, sun5i kernel seems to work, but testing coverage is far from 100%
<specing> Actually I switched to xfce even before gnome3... it was just horrible
<orly_owl> well debian is using xfce now
<hno> rz2k, working on u-boot spl,
<hno> we do have official a13 u-boot sources, but those lack spl capability.
<jelly-home> orly_owl: that's just the default choice. xfce has been in debian for years now
<specing> I don't know why people still use normal WMs
<orly_owl> true
<specing> Once you see what a tiling WM can do...
<specing> There is no going back
<orly_owl> i used ratpoison
<orly_owl> it made me type more
<jelly-home> does A13 ram extend the maximum ram size to something more than 1GiB?
<jelly-home> controller*
<hno> jelly-home, the oppisite, it's limited to 512.
<hno> jelly-home, max for A10 is 2GB actually. But have not seen any devices with more than 1GB.
<hno> A13 is all about cutting costs for a low end tablet. It's all it is designed for.
<jelly-home> ah, I'm looking to make a possible fancy set-top box
<hno> jelly-home, A10 is a good match for that. A13 defenitely not.
<hno> jelly-home, A10 also have TS insterfaces for integrating DVB receivers etc, but very little is known about those.
<Marex> basyskom :)
<phh> hno: i'm using a dvb streamer that outputs TS on http, and hardware decoding badly works on it, i need to use mx player in software mode ...
<rm> Xfce is awesome
<rm> nothing is horrible about it
<Turl> hno: I see you went on a "nuke all the pages" spree and killed mnemoc's talk page in the process :P
<Turl> hipboi_: cool, mali r3p0 :) any chance you got an r3p0 for android?
<WarheadsSE> Turl: new mali set?
<Turl> yep
<WarheadsSE> mm
<WarheadsSE> maybe this one will accept Xorg 1.12 >.<
<Turl> you'll need to update the kernel land too
<Turl> I'd do it but I don't have the android libs *hint* :P
<WarheadsSE> mm
<WarheadsSE> I dont have the android land either.
<WarheadsSE> albeit, all I need from this targz is the EGL/GLES
<WarheadsSE> I was building the UMP/Mali from source
<Turl> eh..
<Turl> there's no sauce for libMali
<WarheadsSE> mk
<Turl> I mean, it's part of the DDK == highly proprietary :)
<WarheadsSE> ump/xf86-video-mali
<WarheadsSE> Yeah.. still pestering on getting that.
<Turl> there's source for libump
<Turl> but it requires ddk headers afaik
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<WarheadsSE> apparently it takes a while when you cont have a few MM to chuck around like canoncial & linaro
<hno> Turl, i did, it was crap
<WarheadsSE> hmm, my UMP built just fine
<Turl> hno: that's the purpose of talk pages :)
<Turl> we really need a recaptcha on the wiki
<WarheadsSE> Turl: my major issues were in the 1.12 vs the linaros built-against 1.11
<hno> WarheadsSE, were fixed?
<WarheadsSE> idk, device not in front of me
<lundman> hahah, finally solved my IPTV glitches issue, its all down to Win7 and hibernation in the end
<orly_owl> boo w7
<orly_owl> your isp provides iptv?
<lundman> HikariTV is IPTV-ish
<lundman> but it would "randomly" freak out
<orly_owl> HikariTV?
<orly_owl> ah
<Turl> karaoke service lol
<orly_owl> well it is a japanese tv station
<orly_owl> karaoke is vital
<rz2k> I still dont get, we have a success with mali x11 or not?
<WarheadsSE> I have had success in the past yes, but not full acceleration
<rz2k> great, will you share your results?
<WarheadsSE> hmm, where did those damn rhombus mali pages goe
<hno> WarheadsSE, no idea. Haven't looked into mali at all.
<WarheadsSE> (dont have my liks from home)
<WarheadsSE> Because prior instructions were:
<hno> other than observing that the kernel driver is odd.
<WarheadsSE> DL the pack, extract to /usr/lib
<WarheadsSE> DL the UMP, build that
<WarheadsSE> DL the xf86, build that
<WarheadsSE> add conf, run
<WarheadsSE> and that, my friends, is where I got X11 horking
<hno> WarheadsSE, is this the page you look for? http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10/
<WarheadsSE> the openvg is new to this r3
<WarheadsSE> Yeah, just found it
<WarheadsSE> currently staring at cnx @ the netbook
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<Turl> WarheadsSE: no, not at all
<Turl> you need both to get any kind of thing working as far as I understand
<WarheadsSE> So then my process is pretty much as-is
<Turl> one is like the glue, the other one is the actual thing
<WarheadsSE> get $proprietary, extract, get ump, build, install, get xf86, build, install
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<Quarx> someone good in ida? i need small help or tips:)
<WarheadsSE> "ida"
<Turl> WarheadsSE: IDA the awesome debugger
<rm> iDa
* WarheadsSE googles
<Turl> yup
<WarheadsSE> sweeteet
<Quarx> ida not checking operand for ARM:(
<Turl> Quarx: which operand?
<Quarx> i need replace adrees, http://epsy.ath.cx:888/paste/?794 0xFFFF0FFF to 0xFFFF0FEF
<Quarx> in hex it: 0F 3A E0 E3
<Turl> so?
<Quarx> but, i'm not fully understand, how i can do it.
<Quarx> MOV R3, 0xFFFF0FFF = 0F 3A E0 E3
<Turl> it's for mov.w but hopefully it helps you understand it and you can use the manual to get the details for the "mov" :)
<Quarx> after edit in "manual mode", it not updated in HEX mode
<Turl> I don't think you can edit code on ida
<Turl> it'd be a nice feature though
<Boulet> i'm wondering if they sell cracked IDA on chinese streets
<Turl> Boulet: heh
<Turl> Boulet: I'd take cracked hex rays decompiler for ARM :D
<Turl> the thing is like several KUS$ for a license :P
<Boulet> it would probably come with a few viruses attached ;)
<Turl> I don't care, isolated VM ;)
<Boulet> hehe smart
<Quarx> i have hex rays only for x86
<Boulet> those chinese viruses, they jump out of the VM ;)
<Turl> yeah the x86 is easy to find
<Turl> I've looked and no traces of any hex rays for arm floating on the 'net
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<Turl> Boulet: isolated physical box :D
<Turl> they can't jump that
<Boulet> it's like getting out of the matrix ...... take the right pill hehe
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<Tsvetan> hi
<WarheadsSE> hello
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<revident> WarheadsSE, how is the Arch port to the APC going? I saw from the apc.io forum you've got two of the boards on hand?
<Boulet> arg missed tsvetan, too bad
<WarheadsSE> what huh
<WarheadsSE> revident: yes, even had one at fosscon
<WarheadsSE> atm, havent had time to focus on it
<WarheadsSE> got it thursday
<revident> *nods* WarheadsSE, have you been working with xenoxaos at all? I was helping him a bit when I first got my two boards.
<xenoxaos> who do yo uthink gave it to him?
<WarheadsSE> ^
<WarheadsSE> xenoxaos: and I work closely together
<WarheadsSE> there are only 5 of us after all
<revident> I suspected, but had not reason to be sure.
<WarheadsSE> :)
<WarheadsSE> basically, same as everyone else at this point, kernel sucks.
<hno> RaYmAn, have you tried if DCC works?
<RaYmAn> hno: no, I'm not really familiar with DCC
<Turl> IRC DCC?
<RaYmAn> I think he means in relation to jtag
<RaYmAn> :P
<Turl> yeah I figured :)
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<RaYmAn> what's the advantage? Not having to use UART? or?
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<rz2k> RaYmAn: debugging UART itself and everything that is before UART init.
<hno> RaYmAn, always works no matter what state the system is in.
<hno> even while doing magic dancing with the MMU.
<hno> plus no separate UART cable needed.
<hno> plus if there is hardware tracing enabled then you have a single trace of both hardware and software events.
<hno> no idea what level of hardware tracing there is in the A1X.
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<hno> It's annoying there is no debug rom table, or at least none seen by openocd.
<furan> jtag dcc sounds cool
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* hno thinks ethernet over jtag is more cool.
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<hno> DCC is handy in low level stuff, but crap from a driver perspective.
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<furan> does mk802 expose jtag?
<RaYmAn> hno: really? I'm getting a debug rom table on mine..Admittedly, it's limited to a single entry :/
<hno> RaYmAn, you do?
<hno> Mine says: > dap info
<hno> Type is MEM-AP AHB
<hno> AP ID register 0x44770001
<hno> No ROM table present
<hno> AP BASE 0xffffffff
<Turl> there's an open MK802 on the video lol
<Turl> ~01:40
<RaYmAn> hno: dap info 1
<RaYmAn> the rom table is on the APB
<hno> Ah
<hno> Turl, how did that end up there?
<Turl> hno: idk really :P
<RaYmAn> furan: you can access it through the microsd pins witha breakout
<Turl> "800 MHz ARM Cortex-A8 Processor"
<Turl> underclocked A10 maybe? :P
<RaYmAn> 189$ ouch
<Turl> someone on XDA will "port" the software to something cheaper RaYmAn for sure :P
<RaYmAn> lol
<RaYmAn> it's probably just google now
<RaYmAn> :P
<Turl> haha yeah possibly
<Turl> android 41
<Turl> 4.1*
<hno> RaYmAn, thanks, trhat worked better.
<RaYmAn> hno: I have had absolutely zero luck accessing the memory it points at though. As in, no matter what I get all zeroes
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<hno> RaYmAn, can you access the romtable?
<RaYmAn> hno: not sure
<hno> it's in the same bus
<hno> and openocd obviously reads that one somehow
<RaYmAn> yeah
<RaYmAn> I got some kind of values out of cp14 with the openocd mrc command, but I didn't spend enough time on it to decode the values to see if they are sane
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<repozitor1> is this channel establish for SAM7X256?
<hno> repozitor1, never heard of it.
<hno> what is it?
<repozitor1> it has ARM7TDMI processor
<hno> Atmel micro controller it seems.
<repozitor1> yes
<RaYmAn> 55mhz! :P
<tristezo2k2> wild power!
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<tristezo2k2> :)
<repozitor1> :(
<repozitor1> no it's power is very small
<tristezo2k2> I was ironic :p
<repozitor1> it has powerfull power consuption
<hno> we focus on fullblown system controllers capable of running Linux.
<hno> actually we focus on just one family currently (Allwinner A1x), but many others are present here as well.
<repozitor1> is this channel for it or not?
<hno> not really
<repozitor1> what the context of this channel?
<hno> repozitor1, read tpopic?
<hno> s/tpo/to/
<ibot> hno meant: repozitor1, read topic?
<repozitor1> no, now to reading
<repozitor1> ok, but i don't understand completely
<RaYmAn> this channel isn't really for any particular device. But the common denomiator is probably: devices that can run full graphical linux.
<repozitor1> you mean that this channel didn't establish for arm chip? i.e sam7x256?
<hno> repozitor1, can you run a linux desktop on it?
<RaYmAn> It's definitely in the lower bracket performance-wise :P
<RaYmAn> There are A LOT of arm chips out there
<repozitor1> hno, yes, but embeded linux no Desktop
<repozitor1> there is exist many project for it, like RTOS
<repozitor1> Real Time Operating System
<hno> Is it the kind of CPU you would place in a ARM based netbook?
<hno> not that ARM based netbooks is really the topic of this channel, but that's the class of CPUs we work with.
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<repozitor1> ARM9TDMI can done your job fine
<repozitor1> newer version like cortext is very very powerfull too :P
* hno doubts
<repozitor1> can you tell me what processor you are work on it?
<hno> repozitor1, I did. see above.
<RaYmAn> Currently, most discussion in here is about Allwinner A10 as hno said. It's a Cortex A8 based SoC with a fairly powerful 3D engine and video engine
<repozitor1> yes
<RaYmAn> It's 1ghz.
<repozitor1> thanks a lot for helping,
<repozitor1> if someone find the best channel for sam7
<repozitor1> tell me in private message
<repozitor1> night
<RaYmAn> fifia
<RaYmAn> arg
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<RaYmAn> that was...peculiar.
<tristezo2k2> btw,....
<tristezo2k2> is it possible to move linux from SD to the internal nand space?
<hno> tristezo2k2, yes.
<tristezo2k2> I see the SD mimics partitions on the nand, so it should..
<tristezo2k2> great.
<tristezo2k2> and the tricky question, is it possible to go back to android? :)
<hno> with a reflash yes.
<hno> even possible to dual-boot probably, but most have fairly small nand.
<tristezo2k2> agreed... 4 gigs on mine.
<tristezo2k2> that reflash needs special hard or just the correct image and soft?
<hno> tristezo2k2, just livesuite and your favorite Android image for the device in question.
<tristezo2k2> great.
<tristezo2k2> any place to read how to move it to nand?
<tristezo2k2> I mean, instead of 2 hours of frantical search, if you have it at hand :)
<hno> tristezo2k2, do you have UART console?
<tristezo2k2> yes
<tristezo2k2> 115200 baud of wild transfer/second and working ok
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<arokux_h> what u300 st-ericsson could mean?
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<Turl> arokux_h: looks like a ST-Ericcson chip :)
<arokux_h> yep, I thought I could find a name of a board it is in
<Turl> arokux_h: the mach itself is merged on mainline, I don't see any boards though
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<Turl> /* Maintainer: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com> */
<Turl> maybe that guy knows :)
<arokux_h> :D
<Turl> why are you interested in it btw?
<arokux_h> Turl, just curious