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<alu> "In some ways, this could be the most important and creative web browser at the moment."
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<whyrusleeping> alu: thats pretty freakin cool
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<jbenet> !pin QmdEaGfwzkNHQtxgp3XWxPgeuCEKecEHLSPnCUUpz3W7zs
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmdEaGfwzkNHQtxgp3XWxPgeuCEKecEHLSPnCUUpz3W7zs
<jbenet> lgierth: ok sounds good! thanks for handling this-- too bad the DDR3 didnt work :(
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<jbenet> !pin /ipfs/QmY1Zo1DTt9D89HM3PAuHNjm81yAHA1JEtXcE2m6tKepWU/
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmY1Zo1DTt9D89HM3PAuHNjm81yAHA1JEtXcE2m6tKepWU/
<pinbot> [host 3] failed to grab refs for /ipfs/QmY1Zo1DTt9D89HM3PAuHNjm81yAHA1JEtXcE2m6tKepWU/: Post http://[fc4e:5427:3cd0:cc4c:4770:25bb:a682:d06c]:5001/api/v0/refs?arg=%2Fipfs%2FQmY1Zo1DTt9D89HM3PAuHNjm81yAHA1JEtXcE2m6tKepWU%2F&enc=json&r=true&stream-channels=true: dial tcp [fc4e:5427:3cd0:cc4c:4770:25bb:a682:d06c]:5001: connection timed out
<whyrusleeping> thats odd
<whyrusleeping> must have made the request right when the node was brought down for its reboot
<jbenet> !pin /ipfs/QmSWnauy7tquRmh1PwahrZP5Pj8uiRVTTL916rkyyeJ9z6/
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmSWnauy7tquRmh1PwahrZP5Pj8uiRVTTL916rkyyeJ9z6/
<jbenet> whyrusleeping: no-- they're not being rebooted.
<jbenet> it just failed. services are hard. they fail all the time.
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1569: Notify when daemon is ready (master...daemon-msg) http://git.io/v3VLP
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: huh, i had the same thing happen to me once last week and that was the issue
<whyrusleeping> and things dont really fail for no reason...
<jbenet> not for no reason-- lots of reasons. lots of things happening all the time. low probabilities add up over time.
<whyrusleeping> yeah
<whyrusleeping> hows the hacking going?
<whyrusleeping> i see a decent flurry on the api stuff and electron
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<jbenet> whyrusleeping: things going well, on a dash to finish a bunch of things
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<jbenet> my asciinema-to-ipfs rehosting tool: https://github.com/jbenet/asciinema-selfhost
<jbenet> daviddias o/
<lgierth> neeto
<voxelot> super cool
<lgierth> is it possible to just get the id from asciinema rec's stdout?
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<jbenet> lgierth: yeah probably
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<rht___> just wondering if it will be space-saving to have config option to compress each block before writing it to flatfs?
<jbenet> rht___ yeah for sure. i've been thinking about that, but dont think it will make as much of a difference now as it will when we do arena-style storage (e.g. a bunch of objects in one file).
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<rht___> tried, 86.7MiB -> 84.4MiB
<jbenet> yeah, i think the main dedup will come across objects
<rht___> @jbenet (tar-ed unixfs size) For metadata of the tar-ed (and even tar.gz) unixfs size, what about https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/612? And what about using ipfs-ld?
<M-davidar> lgierth: are there any ipfs nodes listening for swarm connections over hyperboria yet?
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<jbenet> rht___ yeah goal is to move to ipld
<cSmith> M-davidar: I believe there are 8 that are at least on hyperboria
<cSmith> I believe they are listening as well
<cSmith> lgierth would still know more though
<M-davidar> cSmith_: you wouldn't happen to know (some of) their addresses/peerids would you?
<M-davidar> mine's listening over hyperboria, but I haven't actually seen any swarm peers over it yet
<cSmith> ummmm
<cSmith> I don't >.>
<cSmith> oh wait
<cSmith> it's the addresses h.gateway.ipfs.io resolves to iirc
<cSmith> M-davidar: ^
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<M-davidar> cSmith: thanks. How do I find the (ipfs) peerid corresponding to those ip6 addresses?
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<cSmith> no idea :P
<cSmith> i'm not really an ipfs expert
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<voxelot> trying out cjdns for the first time, anyone wanna be my node friend? :)
<cSmith> voxelot: might want to try asking in #cjdns, #hyperboria, or #projectmeshnet on EFNet
<cSmith> lots more cjdnsers/hyperborians there
<voxelot> yeah i just have better relationships here, and know a lot are using here
<voxelot> but i'll hop over
<cSmith> ah yeah
<voxelot> thanks
<cSmith> np!
<cSmith> also i dunno if you've read it yet
<voxelot> read it?
<cSmith> ah nevermind
<cSmith> can't find the link
<cSmith> bots are dead
<cSmith> so this isn't enforced or anything like that
<cSmith> just some general ino and suggestions about asking for peers, stuff like that
<cSmith> we also have public peers now
<voxelot> awesome, thanks again cSmith
<cSmith> but the bots that have the links to them are dead
<cSmith> sure np
<voxelot> reading up now
<cSmith> also once you get on hyperboria, HypeIRC is where most of the action happens
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<voxelot> cool, can't wait to help out
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<M-davidar> voxelot: you could also ask lgierth when he's around
<M-davidar> i'm only new to cjdns too, so not brave enough to try incoming peers yet :)
<voxelot> haha yeah i think i want to purchase a VPS before i start linking up anyway
<voxelot> and figure out how whyrusleeping doesn't sleep so i can help code all these meshnets
<cSmith> hahahahaha
<cSmith> peers: https://github.com/hyperboria/docs/blob/master/faq/peering.md [community based] || http://cjdns.ca/peers.txt [outdated] || http://transitiontech.ca/faq#peering [more friendly] || see also: ? public [use at own risk + no support]
<M-davidar> cSmith: btw, managed to connect to one of the ipfs nodes over hyperboria :)
<cSmith> bots are back up :D
<cSmith> M-davidar: awesome!
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<ansuz> daviddias: any idea when you're leaving today?
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<daviddias> ansuz: I don't know what is the plan to get there
<daviddias> lgierth: ^??
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<ehmry> I just took the train to Gransee and waited for a shuttle
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1570: Config: allow to set maps on null value (master...config-null) http://git.io/v3VbM
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<ansuz> daviddias: lgierth said you guys might rent a car?
<ansuz> If that was the plan I was thinking I might be able to get my tent in the trunk
<ansuz> there's a train or something from ostbahnhauf
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<M-davidar> correction: I temporarily connected to an ipfs node over hyperboria :) doesn't seem too stable at the moment
<_boot> haha i'd wondered if ipfs would work on hype
<_boot> Is there any reason that the go-ipfs implementation would try to connect to 10.0.0.0/8, 172.17.0.0/16 and 192.168.0.0/24 addresses on a network where none such addresses are used?
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<_boot> i'm guessing the peers are advertising their internal addresses and the go-ipfs is trying to connect to those?
<_boot> lol, hosting company didn't like that
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<daviddias> ansuz: we didn't rent it
<daviddias> I believe we will go by train
<daviddias> buy some food in the town there
<daviddias> and then take a cab or something to CCC
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<feross> daviddias: jbenet: when are you guys taking the cab? jhiesey decided to fly in from SF, probably arriving in Berlin at 6pm
<feross> Would be nice if he could train up or share a cab with you
<feross> Also, I'm already here. See ya'll soon
<daviddias> feross: nice :) . I'm not sure if we will leave Berlin so late. We should be heading around ~1:30pm
<daviddias> but we'll keep you posted
<feross> daviddias: no worries, just wanted to check
<feross> See you soon!
<daviddias> yes! see you soon:D
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<ipfsbot> [webui] diasdavid opened pull request #75: Merge webui publish fix + bump ipfs-api version (master...build-fix) http://git.io/v3rfT
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<jbenet> _boot: here's a way to fix that-- look at filters issue on go-ipfs (closed) for example command. We should maybe make a flag to init and make the dockerfile use it
<marianoguerra> hi! I'm new to ipfs, is there something to read about how ipfs controls how/how much my computer/disk/network is used when using ipfs?
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<_boot> jbenet: just found some issues on github, reading now :)
<_boot> got my server disconnected lol
<jbenet> _boot sorry about that. :(
<_boot> lol its cool, killed ipfs for now
<jbenet> _boot the flipside is no NAT traversal for end users on laptops. We should have sane default modes and make init ask user or something
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<pjz> mosh is awesome
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<whyrusleeping> marianoguerra: we're working on that. disk is the first one we're going to have limits for
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<rschulman> At OTI this morning we were discussing how we have to distribute a bunch of pdfs. I was |——this close——| to suggesting IPFS.
<Luzifer> whyrusleeping: btw: I think you can close and (however this is done) claim 1226… ;)
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<whyrusleeping> Luzifer: oh right, there was a bounty or something attached to it?
<Luzifer> yep
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<rschulman> whyrusleeping: dolla dolla bills ya'll
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<whyrusleeping> lol
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<whyrusleeping> guys
<whyrusleeping> guys, its happening
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<vijayee> omg that's huge
<vijayee> not too terribly expensive
<whyrusleeping> i didnt see a price tag?
<vijayee> oops I misread
<vijayee> it was a comparison to other drives
<vijayee> soon as their is a consumer version the future will have arrived
<vijayee> still don't have my jetpack or teleporter yet
<vijayee> but I know they are working on it
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<whyrusleeping> this guys got a hoverboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwSwZ2Y0Ops
<whyrusleeping> hello future, hows it goin?
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<feross> jbenet: hey, jhiesey arrived in berlin. he says he's waiting for a ticket from you. just fyi!
<feross> jbenet: also, are you here yet?
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<jbenet> feross: tell him I'll meet him at the entrance.
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<jbenet> lgierth: the five you gave me are me, mappum, daviddias, krl, and _____ ?
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to private-blocks: http://git.io/v3Kw3
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/private-blocks 5b0e92f Jeromy: run GC over internal blockstore as well...
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<feross> jbenet: okay, will do
<feross> jbenet: when do you get here?
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<jbenet> lgierth: nvm I think we're set. Igave the fifth one in the email to jhiesey
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<jbenet> feross we're here! Where are you?
<feross> jbenet: we're at a restaurant by the big green rocket ship
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<jbenet> feross your tents are at open code town right?
<feross> jbenet: the rocket ship should be on all the maps!
<jbenet> feross: we're gonna set up
<feross> jbenet: we got hammocks and they're in the trees about a 1 minute walk away
<feross> jbenet: i can meet you at open code town if that's easier
<feross> jbenet: are you at open code town now?
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<jbenet> feross yeah
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<jbenet> feross which trees? Space for tents? We should hang out together.
<vijayee> ooh hoverboard is this one doesn't look like its surface material dependant
<rschulman> aw, I want to be at CCC
<jbenet> feross we need to decide whether to set up here or over there, can you come show us where you are?
<rschulman> jbenet: Keep an eye out for Nat Meysenberg and Josh King
<rschulman> OTI tech guys who work on the Commotion mesh networking project.
<jbenet> rschulman: can you send an email intro? There's a lot of people here
<rschulman> Sure
<rschulman> juan@benet.ai?
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<feross> jbenet: on my way over
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<rschulman> jbenet: ^
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<jimbeam_> hey voxelot can i pm?
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<rschulman> whyrusleeping: Do you have a spec in mind for the alias set idea?
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<whyrusleeping> for aliases, i was just thinking a map in the config
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<rschulman> then an “ipfs set <hash> <alias>"
<rschulman> or something?
<whyrusleeping> or 'ipfs alias key=val'
<whyrusleeping> 'ipfs alias rschulman=QmBlibityBlab
<rschulman> surprisingly, that is actually my ipns address.
<rschulman> :)
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created fix/refs-json (+1 new commit): http://git.io/v36JX
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/fix/refs-json 8d6fa2e Jeromy: dont put newlines in refs json output...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1571: dont put newlines in refs json output (master...fix/refs-json) http://git.io/v36Jj
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<rschulman> whyrusleeping: I’m going to see if I can implement the alias thing
<rschulman> doesn’t strike me as probably TOO hard.
<rschulman> but then I haven’t coded in Go in years
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<whyrusleeping> nah, it should be pretty easy
<whyrusleeping> we just havent gotten around to it yet
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<whyrusleeping> mappum: ping!
<mappum> whyrusleeping: pong
<mappum> !
<whyrusleeping> slightly off topic question, have you messed around with your SDR all that much?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created node-construct-v2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/v36cQ
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/node-construct-v2 cd3d6df Jeromy: replace nodebuilder with a nicer interface...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1572: replace nodebuilder with a nicer interface (master...node-construct-v2) http://git.io/v368g
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #1557: improve nodebuilder code to not depend on NewIPFSNode (master...builder-cleanup) http://git.io/v3toh
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<rschulman> whyrusleeping: is config/init.go only called once on ipfs —config?
<whyrusleeping> ipfs init you mean?
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<whyrusleeping> yes, i beleive so
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<rschulman> yep, sorry, that’s what I meant.
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<whyrusleeping> i read over that change, and the consequences didnt quite click until today, lol
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<mappum> whyrusleeping: not a ton, but at camp we're about to get super sweet arm SDR transceivers
<mappum> I couldn't get any of the SDR software working very well on my mac
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<whyrusleeping> oooh, right... not linux
<whyrusleeping> ive got mine recording nicely using gqrx (might be for mac too?)
<whyrusleeping> but i cant figure out retransmission
<mappum> I had to boot to Linux and run gqrx, but it was buggy
<mappum> Well is it a transceiver or a receiver? You might not be able to transmit
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<mappum> Well is it a transceiver or a receiver? You might not be able to transmit
<mappum> Well is it a transceiver or a receiver? You might not be able to transmit
<mappum> Also, be careful you aren't breaking the law, its very illegal to transmit on certain frequencies (and the FCC takes it very seriously)
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<whyrusleeping> yeah, i know which frequencies are fine. I have an operators license from when my schools HAM club was doing a class
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<mappum> Oh nice! What are you transmitting?
<voxelot> so when you run the node api server side and do the cat function it returns the response as a stream but when you run client side it returns as a string
<voxelot> interesting
<lgierth> jbenet: the fifth ticket was for the friend of yours you said was coming
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<lgierth> leeech you people
<lgierth> you got 40 fucking gbit from 6 providers
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<okket> zilch IPv6 traffic, sad.
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<krl> whyrusleeping: ping
<jbenet> lgierth: get over here
<jbenet> :)
<krl> Directory
<lgierth> jbenet: i do indeed feel like i'm missing quite a bit -- but it's SO nice to be home :)
<lgierth> maybe on sunday or so
<jbenet> lgierth: come later
<jbenet> yeah
<lgierth> bummer the NUCs are blank
<lgierth> i can do the rest if only you can get cjdns on them and peer them to http://camp.icvpn.hamburg.freifunk.net/cjdns/
<whyrusleeping> krl: pong
<lgierth> btw, LEEEECH MOOOAAR
<lgierth> those gbit aren't gonna satisfy themselves
<krl> whyrusleeping: could there be a quickfix for #1566?
<whyrusleeping> krl: i could hack something together yes
<krl> that would be sweet
<whyrusleeping> mmmkay, on it
* whyrusleeping loves git stash
<krl> whyrusleeping: great thx
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<whyrusleeping> krl: that should do it
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created quick-fix/ipns-err (+1 new commit): http://git.io/v3iS0
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/quick-fix/ipns-err 1612e66 Jeromy: dont create ipnsfs filesystem until its needed...
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<jbenet> i vaguely recall a reason we wanted to make sure the names were there... who knows. not a test, so we shoiuld find out again
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: talking to me?
<jbenet> yeah
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<whyrusleeping> in the context of the code i just pushed? or something else?
<jbenet> just pushed. but nvm. carry on
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed node-construct-v2 from cd3d6df to 686f5a3: http://git.io/v3PkK
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/node-construct-v2 686f5a3 Jeromy: replace nodebuilder with a nicer interface...
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<whyrusleeping> jbenet: quit trying to steal my personal information! http://i.imgur.com/kN6pbJy.png