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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1583: Show readonly commands in gateway readonly API (master...feat/read-only-api-gateway) http://git.io/v35uS
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<jbenet> hey lgierth are you around?
<lgierth> jbenet: o/
<jbenet> lgierth: we're thinking of putting a pinbot (ipfs_pinbot or even just ipfs_pin) on CCC irc
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<lgierth> jbenet: shouldn't be a problem, add a second docker container to roles/pinbot/tasks/main.yml
<mappum> jbenet: irc.stackint.org #camp
<lgierth> container and restart-hook, that is. they're right below each other in tasks/main.yml
<M-davidar> whyrusleeping: how far are you willing to post them?
<lgierth> that'd be identical to our pinbot, with differnt server and nick
<lgierth> you want a relaxed friend list or so, i guess
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<lgierth> jbenet: what do i need for a dagnode to be immediately available via the gateway? coreunix.ad seems to suggest ipfsnode.dag.addrecursive() and ipfsnode.pinning.getmanual().pinwithmode(k, indirect)
<lgierth> i'm trying to get around making a testdata dir... i only want a directory with a subdirectory with an index.html
<lgierth> (probably don't need the pinning)
<jbenet> sorry got distracted by a user
<jbenet> lgierth: we were considering asking people to ask us to pin things for them (to check size) or to bring us mate to get friended :)
<lgierth> coolio
<lgierth> i like the cccamp-pinbot idea, one more way to interact
<jbenet> lgierth: should only need to construct the dag node(s) and add them to the node.DAG (merkledag.DagService)
<jbenet> lgierth: yeah!
<jbenet> lgierth: have time to help set it up? (Sorry im trying to field a few things and finish the distributions page atm). also i dont think the NUCs are online (daviddias and mappumt tried to find things to connect to them, but haven't succeded). we have a workshop tomorrow and we may be able to get them by then
<lgierth> yeah i can do it
<jbenet> lgierth: also! i just downloaded all of openwrt to a large VPS-- i got one at http://vpsbolt.com/ -- i couldnt read the german on hezner to sign up, but we could move to hezner as these guys don't look very legit. (could also just have two)
<jbenet> lgierth: i'm currently adding it to ipfs. 9GB/200GB. the CPU on this thing must be crap
<jbenet> ((not sure what the cpu is. i'm getting "QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)" from /proc/cpuinfo))
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<jbenet> also the vps's website looks a bit .... unknown -- wonder if it's a honeypot or just a very small business.
<lgierth> i could order the hetzner box and we'd transfer it to a protocol account once you're back in the city
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<lgierth> i'm sure hetzner can transfer ownership of boxes
<jbenet> sweet, sounds good
* lgierth ordering
<lgierth> meh they deactivated my account when i cancelled that vps a year ago... reactivation process is email, and getting a new account is email + passport
<jbenet> lol wow.
<jbenet> passport??
<lgierth> yeah it's a bit ridiculuous
<jbenet> lgierth: we should extend pinbot to change its friendlist based on a file
<jbenet> ok brb i'll change pinbot to do this
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<sasha> jbenet: this is the one i'm trying now https://gist.github.com/ndarville/10010916
<sasha> already a gist
<jbenet> sasha thanks!
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<lgierth> meh it's weird
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<jbenet> lgierth: that looks ok.
<jbenet> lgierth: you can make the dag nodes without calling coreunix.Add, and then add them at the end or something. but this is fine
<jbenet> ?friends
<pinbot-test> my friends are: mappum lgierth kyledrake cryptix mafintosh zignig daviddias whyrusleeping jbenet tperson krl
<jbenet> ?add friend ogd
<pinbot-test> ?add friend <name> <perm>
<jbenet> ?add friend ogd pin
<pinbot-test> failed to add friend: write friends: bad file descriptor
<jbenet> i should test this in a private channel so it doesnt ping everyone :)
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<lgierth> dagn1.AddNodeLink("foo", dagn2) doesn't seem to work
<lgierth> dagn1.AddNodeLink("foo", dagn2) doesn't seem to work
<lgierth> sry
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<jbenet> lgierth: hmmm try logging them to the console? you may need to do something else before adding it back, take a log at DagBuilder or DagEditor
<jbenet> !shun whyrusleeping
<jbenet> ?shun whyrusleeping
<pinbot-test> shun whyrusleeping the non believer! Shuuuuuuuun
<jbenet> ?befriend whyrusleeping admin
<pinbot-test> Hey whyrusleeping, let's be friends! You can admin
<Xe> jbenet: now I have charlie the unicorn stuck in my head
<jbenet> Xe :)
<Xe> also, unrelated
<Xe> i've been learning haskell
<Xe> and that's been putting all of my projects on hold lol
<jbenet> lgierth: can you say: ?pin /ipfs/QmYhSSBG97TYZyYS7jVzwstMdgXmeLtgV2SYKKhrC5uUn8/c.png
<jbenet> Xe: it's mind consuming :)
<Xe> jbenet: it broke my brain
<jbenet> or, Xe can you try saying it? o/
<Xe> jbenet: a monad is nothing but a monoid in the category of endofunctors, what's the problem?
<jbenet> right!
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<jbenet_> ?pin /ipfs/QmYhSSBG97TYZyYS7jVzwstMdgXmeLtgV2SYKKhrC5uUn8/c.png
<jbenet> ?befriend jbenet_ pin
<pinbot-test> Hey jbenet_, let's be friends! You can pin
<jbenet_> ?pin /ipfs/QmYhSSBG97TYZyYS7jVzwstMdgXmeLtgV2SYKKhrC5uUn8/c.png
<pinbot-test> now pinning /ipfs/QmYhSSBG97TYZyYS7jVzwstMdgXmeLtgV2SYKKhrC5uUn8/c.png
<jbenet> ?shun jbenet_
<pinbot-test> shun jbenet_ the non believer! Shuuuuuuuun
<jbenet_> ?pin /ipfs/QmYhSSBG97TYZyYS7jVzwstMdgXmeLtgV2SYKKhrC5uUn8/c.png
<jbenet> ok good.
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<jbenet> ?botsnack
<pinbot-test> om nom nom
<jbenet> lgierth: ok pinbot master updated -- https://github.com/whyrusleeping/pinbot/pull/8
* jbenet brb mate
<lgierth> this is starting to drive me mad
<lgierth> /foo/index.html => 200, /foo/ => 200, /foo => 404
<jbenet> maybe strip trailing slashes?
<lgierth> /foo is supposed to respond with 302 => /foo/
<lgierth> that's a hack that was already in place to make backlinks in directory-listings work
<jbenet> lgierth: ah, right, sigh.
<lgierth> anyhow, the gateway test that was already in place, does work again (was skipped)
<jbenet> maybe can still strip the slashes before node.Resolving it? im not sure.
<jbenet> yay
* lgierth checks whether net/http follows redirects...
<lgierth> it does
<lgierth> m(
<mappum> ?help
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<jbenet> ?shun mappum
<pinbot-test> shun mappum the non believer! Shuuuuuuuun
<jbenet> ?befriend mappum pin
<pinbot-test> Hey mappum, let's be friends! You can pin
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<mappum> ?pin QmeomffUNfmQy76CQGy9NdmqEnnHU9soCexBnGU3ezPHVH
<pinbot-test> now pinning /ipfs/QmeomffUNfmQy76CQGy9NdmqEnnHU9soCexBnGU3ezPHVH
<mappum> ?pin QmNxNdAAGCoCdJMWvLbJQR4EyaJxqLd8hv1jVSg2jLLrAr
<pinbot-test> now pinning /ipfs/QmNxNdAAGCoCdJMWvLbJQR4EyaJxqLd8hv1jVSg2jLLrAr
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<lgierth> oh wow. gratification.
<lgierth> you shall pass
<lgierth> n.DAG.AddRecursive(dagn1) was enough btw, the issue was http.Client following redirects
<jbenet> ahhh
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<lgierth> the http client is neat
<lgierth> even supports trailing headers
<lgierth> and uses the same data structures for client and server
<lgierth> like my github.com/lgierth/httpkit
<lgierth> s/the http client/the http pkg/
<jbenet> nice
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<lgierth> jbenet: trading pinbot deploy for CR: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/1577
<lgierth> huh, backpressure_test failing on circleci
<lgierth> and the known process-can't-add-children
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] jbenet closed pull request #1389: Add readonly api to gateway (master...feat/read-only-api-gateway) http://git.io/vLBjg
<jbenet> lgierth: on it
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<mappum> ?pin QmPS6aznQVHqfaj9qVUk6epBCGmC1xJNHF2uRTxbpViGE7
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<jbenet> mappum cat Qmbck6tqfB6Qr8YwgtUit1VmttobCqSY93qxnLLLURbQTf >index.js
<mappum> jbenet: QmRNNw9NfugWZWQWWdSYqRcvMF8d5sThK98Qvm7q4TwK8o/fsk.js
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<M-davidar> hmm, oai repos appear to be going offline at a somewhat alarming rate
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<substack> just watched the brewster kale camp talk, so much ipfs
* substack will be using ipfs in another project soon too, yay
<M-davidar> substack: what kind of project?
<substack> signed html application delivery, a new iteration of http://hyperboot.org/
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<daviddias> mappum: mafintosh ogd is there a best place where you are getting answers for hackrf stuff? I'm getting audio underuns tunning in for FM Radio and can't figure what is wrong
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<M-davidar> substack: sounds good, secure browser crypto would be very cool
<M-davidar> also just watched brewster's talk
<M-davidar> re the first question: it doesn't seem like it would be impossible to have "web 2.0" sites on ipfs
<M-davidar> you just wouldn't be able to rely on a central authority performing all of the aggregation of user content
<M-davidar> well, i guess you could if you really wanted
<ogd> daviddias: i have just been walking around camp asking random people
<daviddias> give me the names!! :P
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<ansuz> lgierth: I'm looking for that note from Arceliar
<ansuz> do you have the link somewhere
<lgierth> ansuz: what note
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<ansuz> you and him had a chat and you pasted the log into a github note
<ansuz> or something
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<lgierth> bout dns?
<ansuz> about at what stage the encryption happens
<ansuz> for protecting metadata, I think
<lgierth> sure that wasn't you?
<daviddias> jbenet: did you figure out a solution for the session schedule? You were talking about making it in another village right? Should I move it?
<daviddias> if yes, where?
<ansuz> I'm positive, you and him had a conversation and it turned into a note
<lgierth> hrmk, it's not in docs and it's not in my gists
<ansuz> an issue, I think, but I don't know where, and you guys have a lot of issues on your tracker
<ansuz> it's an ipfs thing, not cjdns
<ansuz> if that's what you mean
<lgierth> yeah? mh
* ansuz shrugs
<lgierth> no idea, really
<ansuz> k
<lgierth> ansuz: what info are you looking for?
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<lgierth> these directory-listing backlinks
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<lgierth> these directory-listing backlinks
<lgierth> sry
<M-mistake> Is it weird to ask if IPFS will be Mercurialized as either a parallel process er a fork? I do not mwteean t2bs racelist, I just haeveen dria trouble w/m git slang slurs.
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<lgierth> M-mistake: are you asking whether we'll migrate away from git to mercurial?
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<prosodyContext> cjb left their own #gittorrent room so I am predictable unsayably unhappy about future plans for migrating git to mercurial in terms of ipfsnessyess, iglerth.. .
<prosodyContext> I mwade #mercurrent vut I cannot spell enough.
<lgierth> it'd be great to see mercurial repos in ipfs, if that's what you mean
<lgierth> (it really would)
<ansuz> oh, wandered off. Arceliar said that there was a modification you could make where less metadata would be exposed when using ipfs
<M-mistake> But the IPFS whitepper says it is Git storage sotosae..)
<ansuz> you pated the info and then I think Juan got involved in the convo
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<ansuz> pasted*
<lgierth> M-mistake: the merkle-dag is what ipfs takes from git
<M-mistake> Exactly!i
<ansuz> :D
<M-mistake> lollll legal comp psy sci :P (<C) )) )
<ansuz> thx lorsg
<lgierth> M-mistake: so, what does have mercurial have to do with it? sorry, i just got out of bed
<M-mistake> I just want to avoid it Glang.
<M-mistake> It really lacks empathic det comped to MErcurial has actual mental mapping..
<M-mistake> :/
<prosodyContext> iOpiniony.. .
<prosodyContext> whyareyouawake, gobacktobed igierth ;) :| :∫
* M-mistake _mis sings a lullaby _why
<lgierth> M-mistake: so, what does have mercurial have to do with it? sorry, i just got out of bed
<lgierth> sorry
<lgierth> i keep hitting the wrong terminal
<prosodyContext> It is the infrastructure, Git is incomprehensible without changing your nerves to Linus format.
<prosodyContext> I'm trying to count the quode I quess.
<lgierth> ok but i still don't see why that's relevant for ipfs
<lgierth> ipfs uses a data structure which git popularized
<lgierth> that's all
<prosodyContext> Maybe I missunderstand but the Git style merkle is diff than merc.
<lgierth> i'm not familiar with mercurial
<prosodyContext> Ah.
<M-mistake> It feels like Bitcoin. Takes a generation to read.
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<prosodyContext> It ganges how you gram.
<M-mistake> Changes*°
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<hannes3> hey, does ipfs keep timestamps of files intact?
<pguth2> Can someone answer me if common Torrent clients exchange chunks that are equal between "different" `.torrent`-swarms?
<hannes3> i am very sure they dont
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<daviddias> mappum: are you running El Capitain? I'm being unable to partition the disk
<mappum> yes, but i haven't done any partitions on EC
<mappum> i've only done them on original yosemite
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<mappum> if you can't get it to work, i have a USB drive you could borrow
<daviddias> it's like the Unix gods are against me
<mappum> :/
<daviddias> and boot it from usb?
<mappum> yeah
<daviddias> well, I already have the bootable USB
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<daviddias> was looking to install it on an actual partition
<mappum> ah, i see
<mappum> what's stopping it from working?
<daviddias> Disk utility throws
<daviddias> I saw this error before when trying to do bootcamp into Win10
<daviddias> started happening after I installed El Capitan, the Disk Utility must be broken somehow
<daviddias> yep, other people report it too. Partitions doesn't work in El Capitan
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<daviddias> Updated the location for the workshop -> https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/Session:IPFS:_The_Permanent_Web
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<jbenet> daviddias: nice map
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<lgierth> jbenet: any additional irc servers for pinbot?
<jbenet> lgierth: we found a display for the NUCs -- we're working on provisoning them
<jbenet> lgierth: yeah, the ccc irc server, details in logs -- or in mappum's head
<jbenet> i think its hackint.org or something
<mappum> irc.hackint.org #camp
<lgierth> ok
<lgierth> jbenet: nice let me know when they're up and i can do the rest
<lgierth> ze ansible
<lgierth> thunderstorm on its way
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<jbenet> ominous!
<jimki> jbenet: hey, in case you didn't already get started on adding the file mode support to unixfs, I might be interested in implementing it.
<jbenet> jimki we definitely need help with that
<jbenet> cc whyrusleeping wking o/
<jimki> what approach did you have in mind for it?
<jbenet> jimki probably using the Metadata object
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<jimki> how would metadata be linked to the file? looking at the code it seems that file is expecting to only link to raw's
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<jbenet> jimki right, the metadata wraps the file
<jbenet> metadata -> unixfs file
<jimki> got it. I'll have a look later and play around a bit more with it.
<jbenet> lgierth should the os be installed onto a HDD or do you think we can do a liveCD that allows us to write (packages)
<jbenet> cc mappum daviddias
<wking> jimki: For file mode support, see https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/1413
<wking> which works on reading in the file mode at add-time.
<wking> Then we'll need a switch to put metadata objects in front of anything that needs a mode (or other metadata). https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/unixfs/pb/unixfs.proto#L17-L19 (which will need a mode field)
<wking> and then update 'ipfs get ...' and the FUSE driver to use that metadata mode
<wking> I was hoping to get back to working on some of that^ this weekend, but things have been busy :/
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<lgierth> jbenet: install to usb stick should be ok. i put one fast stick in one of the two boxes
<maresco> running an ipfs daemon on a digital ocean box, is there an easy way to restart the daemon?
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<lgierth> maresco: how did you start it in the first place?
<lgierth> we run a docker container, so we can just do `docker restart ipfs`
<maresco> we ssh'ed to the box and ran `ipfs daemon`
<maresco> i've not used ssh a ton, but was trying to get this up quickly for a hackathon
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<lgierth> then `killall ipfs ; ipfs daemon`
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<lgierth> i'd suggest you use an init script of some sort, or a docker container
<maresco> thanks, i appreciate it
<maresco> other thing, which you guys helped with yesterday – i set the config for CORS, as mentioned in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/cmd/ipfs/daemon.go#L75-L94 but i'm still getting "No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource."
<maresco> do you know if i might be missing something else?
<maresco> i'm trying to make the ajax request from a page hosted on GH pages
<jbenet> maresco: show me your cors config? type: ipfs config API.HTTPHeaders (i think)
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<maresco> the url that i'm trying to GET over AJAX is accessible when i type the URL in the browser
<maresco> thanks for helping
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<jbenet> maresco: do you see the cors headers there?
<jbenet> (on the browser)
<maresco> no they're not there
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<jbenet> maresco: did you reboot the daemon after changing the conifg?
<maresco1> yes i did
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<maresco1> not sure why it's not registering.
<maresco1> when i do `ipfs config Addresses` i get
<maresco1> separate addresses for API and Gateway… Gateway appears to be the one on port 8080. i know i'm betraying my ignorance of the difference and how all this works
<maresco1> just wondering if maybe that is why
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] rht opened pull request #1585: Make sure ctx in commands are derived from req.Context (master...cleanup-context) http://git.io/v3bTG
<jbenet> maresco1: not a problem at all. hey if you dont mention me i wont see your comments quickly
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<maresco1> jbenet: thanks, new to irc
<maresco1> jbenet: still trying to figure this out
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<jbenet> maresco1: try ipfs daemon --unrestricted-api
<jbenet> it's not safe to run this way but ok just to test it out.
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<lgierth> krl: yeah we can deploy
<lgierth> is it in master?
<krl> jbenet says yep
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<lgierth> krl: ok deploying fbac82046dd28e6d98c34db88db9f56d7b617027
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<maresco> jbenet: that did not work unfortunately
<krl> lgierth: ping when live?
<lgierth> krl: ping
<jbenet> krl: link?
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<krl> jbenet lgierth, can the gateway resolve ipns?
<krl> i get a 403
<lgierth> yeah it should
<lgierth> it's just a normal gateway
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<krl> lgierth: i mean in the api
<lgierth> puh
<lgierth> no idea about api-in-gateway
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<lgierth> if you can paste me that url i can try it via the api itself
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<lgierth> krl: would that be :5001/v0/object/get?arg=%2Fipns%2FQmPY8N2qYSV6qBtpPZ6Kfuj9H35gLmytEySbGj2zFyCPQs
<lgierth> /api/v0
<jbenet> krl lgierth: maybe resolve didnt make it to the readonly api?
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<jbenet> cc rht__
<lgierth> i get a 500 with "could not resolve name" via the api
<krl> curl "http:/localhost:5001/api/v0/object/get?arg=%2Fipns%2FQmPY8N2qYSV6qBtpPZ6Kfuj9H35gLmytEySbGj2zFyCPQs&stream-channels=true"
<lgierth> curl -v h.gateway.ipfs.io:5001/api/v0/object/get?arg=%2Fipns%2FQmPY8N2qYSV6qBtpPZ6Kfuj9H35gLmytEySbGj2zFyCPQs
<lgierth> same with stream-channels=true appended, that got lost in my shell :)
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<lgierth> pinbot will be on hackint in a few
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<jbenet> daviddias have you found one over there? All here are gone
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<daviddias> jbenet: adapters?
<daviddias> I believe Paige has one
<jbenet> Yea
<jbenet> Found one
<jbenet> On my way!
<daviddias> got one
<daviddias> oh
<daviddias> :D
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<lgierth> @c3noc We are likely to lose connectivity in around 5-10 minutes due to lightning. Updates soon
<lgierth> jbenet: daviddias mappum &
<lgierth> ^
<lgierth> can't reach the nuc anymore either
<lgierth> po-1.e600-nocdc.net.camp.ccc.de down
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<whyrusleeping> thats quite the domain name
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: mtr camp.ipfs.io to see the whole route :)
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<lgierth> up unto the unplugged fiber
<lgierth> ah, power outage
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<lgierth> mappum: so much for keeping the nuc running eh
<lgierth> :)
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<mappum> lgierth: nature was against us, they evacuated us out of the workshop tent because of the thunderstorm
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<whyrusleeping> five hours of packing and cleaning and I don't even feel nearly done
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<rschulman> oh no, so the demo/talk didn’t happen?
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<jbenet> unfortunately not :( -- people want os to do it tomorrow, so we'll see
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