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<jbenet> whyrusleeping: cbor is not json, cbor uses real integers
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<whyrusleeping> its kinda strangely defined there
<jbenet> yeah, but from go it should be well defined. regardless, am marshalling a map[string]string there. this is unrelated.
<jbenet> and it pegged HN yesterday (missed it)
<whyrusleeping> i saw :)
<whyrusleeping> was still on HN this morning
<jbenet> !pin /ipfs/QmQAQfXaqQLqW9SYf8awQU8B2Jnauaz5vw5yt3SpPpoaHF/what-does-it-take-to-make-google-scale.pdf
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmQAQfXaqQLqW9SYf8awQU8B2Jnauaz5vw5yt3SpPpoaHF/what-does-it-take-to-make-google-scale.pdf
<jbenet> !pin /ipfs/QmQAQfXaqQLqW9SYf8awQU8B2Jnauaz5vw5yt3SpPpoaHF
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<jbenet> mmm pinbot is not concurrent
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<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmQAQfXaqQLqW9SYf8awQU8B2Jnauaz5vw5yt3SpPpoaHF
<pinbot> [host 3] failed to pin /ipfs/QmQAQfXaqQLqW9SYf8awQU8B2Jnauaz5vw5yt3SpPpoaHF: pin: context deadline exceeded
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<whyrusleeping> could make him concurrently pretty easily
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<jbenet> ipfs can be very fast :)
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<whyrusleeping> jbenet: yes indeed :D
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: also, if youre interested, i've been collaborating with someone else on hellabot, and he has a PR open
<jbenet> cool
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to node-construct-v2: http://git.io/vsfYW
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/node-construct-v2 2cd6ca0 Jeromy: make mocknet work with node constructor better...
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<whyrusleeping> NewIPFSNode is dead! Long live NewNode!
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to node-construct-v2: http://git.io/vsfnC
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/node-construct-v2 77c2340 Jeromy: finish cleanup of old construction method...
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<vitzli> Hello
<vitzli> Luzifer, checksums capability of gobuilder.me seems to be broken; I found it on https://gobuilder.me/github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/cmd/ipfs when I click on 'hashes' it is all the same checksum everywhere
<M-davidar> is there a reason why `ipfs add -r` is more likely to just randomly stop partway through when the daemon's running compared to offline mode?
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<lgierth> M-davidar: are you adding large stuff?
<lgierth> whyrusleeping: yay! \o/ :)
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<M-davidar> lgierth: yeah, a ~2GB directory with ~2k files
<lgierth> small files? we're seeing it choke on a >200G directory with big files, i.e. between 3M and 500M
<lgierth> try running the daemon with IPFS_PROF=1
<lgierth> i'm going to try that here too once wget --mirror is finished
<lgierth> that'll hopefully yield some useful data
<M-davidar> lgierth: each file is 1-2MB
<M-davidar> thanks, I'll try that next time I'm trying to add something
<lgierth> that oai archive eh?
<lgierth> the >200G directory is downloads.openwrt.org
<M-davidar> yup :)
<M-davidar> and that's just the metadata...
<lgierth> good stuff
<M-davidar> cool
<M-davidar> then do the debian archive :)
<lgierth> yeah and npm, pip, rubygems
<lgierth> we need more storage then, obviously
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<M-davidar> lgierth: how much storage do you have now?
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<lgierth> /dev/md2 2.7T 260G 2.3T 10% /
<lgierth> and you need to double the space required by each mirror
<lgierth> roughly double
<lgierth> once for the mirror itself, once for the blocks in ipfs
<M-davidar> yeah, definitely need more
<lgierth> if you have any suggestions re: hosters... :)
<M-davidar> apparently a carousel of blu-rays is the most cost-efficient :) http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Valhalla#Physical_Options
<M-davidar> yeah, i'd have no idea of good value big storage hosts
<M-davidar> there was a comment on hn about one that seemed pretty cheap, should try to find it
<lgierth> yeah but we wouldn't wanna keep old states of these repositories
<M-davidar> lgierth: i think there might have been some recommendations in one of these threads https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6020969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9936810
<M-davidar> so, is IA running any ipfs nodes yet?
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<jbenet> hello ipfs o/
<M-davidar> hi jbenet, how was ccc?
<jbenet> hey everyone -- we're on for syncup tonight.
<jbenet> M-davidar: it was great! -- such a great place -- but glad to be back to a place i can focus :)
<jbenet> M-davidar: the freeze may be a symlink-- this still needs to get fixed
<jbenet> cc whyrusleeping o/
<jbenet> lgierth: did your storage node freeze on adding openwrt too?
<jbenet> sorry not freeze, leak enough to be killed.
<M-davidar> jbenet: there weren't any symlinks in the directory
<jbenet> M-davidar any other non-regular unix files?
<M-davidar> No, just regular XML files, and it only happens when the daemons running
<jbenet> M-davidar: odd-- are you on 0.3.7 ?
<mappum> i had freezes the other day at <1GB, it went away when i freed up some memory
<M-davidar> Yes, I believe so
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<M-davidar> Yes, definitely
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<M-davidar> jbenet: when I enabled logging, I didn't see any errors, but there was a lot of noise about publishing blocks to the network, so not sure if the problems in there somewhere?
<jbenet> this is odd-- it may be the daemon ooming or something.
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<M-davidar> No, the daemon stays alive, add just dies
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<jbenet> maybe file an issue and tag me and whyrusleeping -- we can prioritize investigating that this week
<jbenet> meanwhile, if you want a large machine in the backbone to add data + so on, lgierth and i can probably hook you up
<M-davidar> OK, I'll file one tomorrow
<M-davidar> jbenet: yes, that would be awesome :)
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<lgierth> oh ffs hetzner
<lgierth> netscan abuse
<lgierth> cause of the mirroring of downloads.openwrt.org
<jbenet> lgierth: rofl did you setup the filters?
<pjz> jbenet: a response to Brewster Khale's blog post. Mentions IPFS, along with the general set of problems faced by distributed web/filesystems
<Luzifer> lgierth: srsly? again? O_o
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<jbenet> pjz thanks!! will read
<lgierth> jbenet: oh shit, right
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<lgierth> Luzifer: is it DialBlocklist or Swarm.AddrFilters
<pjz> jbenet: I'm interested to hear what you think of what he terms the 'Request Privacy Problem'. It seems potentially solvable to me via extra forwarding.
<Luzifer> lgierth: Swarm.AddrFilters
<jbenet> pjz: will take a look later tonight/tomorrow-- lots of things atm.
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<lgierth> Luzifer: okay thanks
<Luzifer> thats the set I have running on my nodes and since then I did not get
<lgierth> yeah let's see what they say, i didn't react within 4h so they passed it to manual review
<lgierth> my reply is "fixed it", PTAL, with a link to the github issue
<Luzifer> :D they should know that link… I threw it multiple times :D
<Luzifer> "here! read this! *throw*"
<jbenet> i'm sure they love us
<lgierth> jbenet: does sirius have an ip? :)
<jbenet> ahh derp -- 199.229.254.55
<lgierth> kthx
<lgierth> i'll run a couple of errands and be back in a bit
<lgierth> i'm down for the evning
<lgierth> you already back?
<Luzifer> jbenet: they surely love us… technically well formulated responses with a root cause analysis without any need for them to investigate further… as a sysadmin those responses are highly welcome to me…
<jbenet> yeah that's true :)
<jbenet> lgierth: yeah we
<jbenet> we're waiting to check into our airbnb then down to go wherever. (your workspace or cbase or whatever)
<Luzifer> ah you're in germany again?
<Luzifer> welcome to the flood or so ;)
<lgierth> jbenet: i can pick up my stuff in an hour or so
<lgierth> jbenet: and i'll check out whether the meeting room in the office is free, i'd like to get a libp2p kind-of-walkthrough while daviddias is still here
<jbenet> lgierth: sounds good.
<daviddias> sgtm :)
<jbenet> lgierth: our airbnb is also decent enough to work out of.
<lgierth> yeah? cool. i just thought something to draw on would be nice. but i can bring a few big pieces of paper
<lgierth> bbiab
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<rschulman> morning ipfsers
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<vijayee> morning
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<lgierth> jbenet: i'll be ready at 8, things took a little longer...
* lgierth out again
<jbenet> lgierth: no worries, maybe come to our place then?
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<The_Tick> is there an rfc for ipfs?
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<pjz> The_Tick: no, there's a docs in https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs and https://github.com/ipfs/papers
<The_Tick> I didn't see those linked on the ipfs website I guess
<The_Tick> meh can't show this to my boss either
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<The_Tick> thanks anyhow
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to node-construct-v2: http://git.io/vskvs
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/node-construct-v2 04bfa05 Jeromy: blockservice.New doesnt return an error anymore...
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<jbenet> lgierth will be ready in ~35, let's do sync then. cc whyrusleeping krl daviddias mappum lgierth kbala ...
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<rschulman> “I can’t show this to my boss either. Thanks anyhow” O_o
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<daviddias> we definitely can improve the way IPFS documentation is presented, but adding to ipfs/ipfs and ipfs/papers, we also have a specs repo https://github.com/ipfs/specs and videos on http://ipfs.io, hope it helps The_Tick
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<rschulman> daviddias: Yeah, though I’m not sure what he was looking for exactly and he did stay to explain. :)
<pjz> I tried!
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<daviddias> thank you, pjz :)
<lgierth> jbenet: i'm here
<lgierth> (on irc, that is)
<lgierth> so we could do the sync and then i cycle to your place and grab something to eat on the way
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<daviddias> who is in? krl mappum lgierth kbala whyrusleeping ?
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<daviddias> ready for checkins & standups?
<lgierth> check
<jbenet> travel and moving makes us all so disorganized.
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<lgierth> okaaay
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<jbenet> hey lgierth sorry, am handling something pretty important/timepressing and people dont seem to be here. in any case-- we can start. maybe everyone prepare updates.
<lgierth> no worries if you're handling something right now
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<jbenet> i am, almost done. 15min would go a long way.
<lgierth> yep cool
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<akdkjhwkahd> fuck you
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<jbenet> (ok sorry everyone. i'm finally done.)
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<lgierth> ok i'm here
<jbenet> let's do updates from whoever's around-- daviddias whyrusleeping krl lgierth mappum ...
<jbenet> so prep update. lgierth, if you're ready go for it
<jbenet> (or rather, go when you're ready)
<lgierth> 1 minute :)
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<lgierth> here we go
<lgierth> - TLS on gateway.ipfs.io
<lgierth> - [x] store secrets encrypted in github
<lgierth> - [x] https://gateway.ipfs.io
<lgierth> - [ ] properly signed certificate
<lgierth> - Static pages on ipfs.io
<lgierth> - [x] fix IPNSHostname in gateway (ready for merge)
<lgierth> - [ ] Migrate gateway to ipfs.io
<lgierth> - [ ] dist.ipfs.io and ipfs.io/dist
<lgierth> - storage
<lgierth> - [x] got 3 TB node at hetzner, called pollux
<lgierth> - [ ] mirroring downloads.openwrt.org, about to run `ipfs add -s rabin`
<lgierth> - [ ] storagebot
<lgierth> - cccamp
<lgierth> - got equipment, and two NUC computers, which we didn't get set up in the end
<lgierth> - [ ] one-click deploys to digitalocean, didn't get done
<lgierth> the NUCs can live on as cjdns+ipfs nodes at freifunk backbone sites
<lgierth> static pages on ipfs.io are very close, but need more work in ipns to be really useful (how to do updates, etc.)
<lgierth> eof
<jbenet> ok thanks! thanks for all the sudden remote help-- even if the thunderstorm killed our workshop.
<lgierth> yeah that was meh :P
<daviddias> We got this beautiful picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMjskvQUYAAsSov.jpg
<jbenet> +1 on openwrt. let's get that all setup.
<jbenet> on the one-click deploys to DO -- any progress or didnt get to it?
<lgierth> didn't get to it at all
<jbenet> (someone was asking how to deploy to VPS around here during CCC)
<daviddias>
<jbenet> kk sounds good. let's try for it this week.
<lgierth> we have https://gateway.ipfs.io, just with a self-signed cert
<lgierth> re: one-click deploys, sgtm
<lgierth> the after-live of the nucs in freifunk would just be ubuntu
<jbenet> ok thanks lgierth. (maybe we should use the NUCs as test bots for larger network tests).
<lgierth> no non-hackish ipfs in openwrt yet
<lgierth> or that
<lgierth> i'm open to anything
<jbenet> sounds good.
<jbenet> ok, next. daviddias?
* daviddias here it goes:
<daviddias> CCC was awesome, had the chance to refresh my knowledge in RF stuff and learn a lot of new things. Excited about the Rad1o Badge, HackRF and what we can do with it (Radio School™).
<daviddias> The focus for the last sprint was mainly getting stuff ready for people in CCC to use:
<daviddias> **electron-app**
<daviddias> - [~] Add a settings menu https://github.com/ipfs/electron-app/issues/28
<daviddias> - [x] Upload several files at once (waiting on multipart/tar stream) - https://github.com/ipfs/electron-app/issues/26
<daviddias> - [x] Add UI element to close the app - https://github.com/ipfs/electron-app/issues/25
<daviddias> - [x] Fix peer count - https://github.com/ipfs/electron-app/issues/22
<daviddias> - [~] Keyboard shortcuts - https://github.com/ipfs/electron-app/issues/31 -> The code to detect them is there, just need to hook them up now.
<daviddias> **node-ipfs-api**
<daviddias> - [x] restructure/clean codebase https://github.com/ipfs/node-ipfs-api/pull/44 -> It needed a less intrusive refactor than I initially though.
<daviddias> I've organised two milestones for the electron-app, the 0.1.0 being all the features above + UI polish and the 0.2.0 being a new release, right on time for Container Camp, with more features but also with bugs fixed we might find in between.
<daviddias> Other random stuff includes trying to get the NUCs going, webui patch and more little things here and there.
<lgierth> ~ = some progress?
<daviddias> yep
<lgierth> ok
<lgierth> radioschool sounds great
<daviddias> for the settings page I still need to figure out what it should look like
<rschulman> as an observer, what are the NUCs?
<lgierth> rschulman: intel nuc
<daviddias> and for the keyboard shortcuts, it is really just calling the functions
<pjz> rschulman: book-sized intel computers
<rschulman> oh just one of those micro pcs like a rasp pi or odroid?
<daviddias> rschulman: it is the `next unit of computing` <- very fancy name
<lgierth> rschulman: moar power
<daviddias> lgierth: re: Radio School. There is so much we can bring to the RF community and SDR are pretty awesome
<lgierth> yes yes! i was also chatting with aaron about meshschool
<jbenet> daviddias: bummed we didnt ship electron app at ccc. i held it up sorry
<jbenet> (i'm a point of hold-up in a lot of things, i need to take on less things)
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<jbenet> daviddias: if we could ship electron app before container camp, say in 1-2 weeks, that would be good. -- let's discuss it with a regroup.
<daviddias> design is hard/time consuming and you did manage to ship a lot for CCC and get a load of attention. Everyone was talking/using/interested in IPFS :)
<daviddias> jbenet: I'm in for that
<jbenet> ok, sounds good. thanks daviddias
<daviddias> lgierth: it was pretty incredible the amount of people that were hacking with IPFS at CCC
<lgierth> :):):)
<pjz> what's trying to be one-click deployed onto digitalocean?
<jbenet> ok, who else is around? (whyrusleeping, krl ?)
<jbenet> ok i'll go. sec--
<pjz> lgierth: I see
<rschulman> daviddias: once I npm start on electron-app where do I go to see it?
<rschulman> localhost:??
<daviddias> which OS are you running it on?
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<daviddias> an IPFS logo should appear next to your tray icons
<rschulman> mac
<rschulman> oh shoot
<rschulman> yes, there it is
<daviddias> :D
<rschulman> heh, cool
<daviddias> you can drop files into it and it will c&p the URL so you can drag&drop&share wtih someone
<rschulman> ooh, fancy
<jbenet> - [x] CCC -- a ton of things here. (travel is hugely time consuming.)
<jbenet> - [x] get lots of great user feedback
<jbenet> - [ ] workshop (interrupted by thunder)
<jbenet> - [x] guided many people through installs. (collected concerns for dist.ipfs.io)
<jbenet> - infrastructure (FAIL)
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<daviddias> also, if you do `npm run dist`, you get a IPFS.app
<daviddias> that you can drop into your Applications folder
<rschulman> daviddias: Damn, I’m impressed. Been waiting for something like that.
<daviddias> :D
<rschulman> Was getting ready to build it myself. :)
<daviddias> and it will only get better (as you can see, the UI needs polish)
<lgierth> RIP jbenet
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<daviddias> lgierth: LOL
<jbenet> ok, freenode doesn't like flooding. -- here: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/26#issuecomment-132340899
<daviddias> rschulman: electron shell is pretty cool, really happy about using it. If you find bugs or would like some special feature, please open a issue, we are all in for feedback :)
<daviddias> Rad ! jbenet
<daviddias>
<daviddias>
<lgierth> jbenet: rapidssl? i though startssl
<jbenet> lgierth, daviddias: let's ship dist.ipfs.io this week.
<jbenet> err sorry startssl
<jbenet> (to many ____ssl
<lgierth> fedwiki integration?!?!?!?!
<lgierth> very nice!
<daviddias> you_get_an_ssl
<daviddias> you_too_get_an_sll
<daviddias> everyone_gets_an_ssl
<lgierth> daviddias: i'm gonna cycle over to you now ok? i don't have much time though
<lgierth> need to be in mitte at 12
<jbenet> lgierth: super basic-- https://github.com/fedwiki/wiki-client/pull/130
<lgierth> nice :)
<daviddias> that should be about 1 hour? SGTM
<lgierth> cool
<lgierth> i made a login-with-cjdns-ipv6 button for it a couple of months ago
<jbenet> lgierth: can you meet us at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Zebrano-Caffe/174442305942060 instead? (we want some coffee)
<jbenet> sec sorry copied wrong link
<jbenet> lgierth: oh wait, nvm. you need to come here to get stuff.
<lgierth> jbenet: see you in 10
<daviddias> lgierth: come to the house then
<daviddias> for stuff
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<voxelot> weird problem with the ipfs-api add function
<voxelot> it's adding the files and returning a hash, but when i cat the hash its empty
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<lgierth> jbenet: daviddias: i'm there
<lgierth> which bell
<lgierth> rang the only one on floor 4 which didn't look like normal residents
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<rschulman> lgierth is stuck outside on the berlin corner...
<rschulman> :(
<lgierth> yeah :(
<lgierth> mappum: ping
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<rschulman> you guys should think about exchanging phone numbers or something. :)
<voxelot> net kept cutting out, posting my code github if someone can take a look at adding
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* whyrusleeping is alive
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<whyrusleeping> !friends
<pinbot> my friends are: whyrusleeping jbenet tperson krl kyledrake zignig lgierth cryptix daviddias mafintosh
<voxelot> !friends
<pinbot> my friends are: whyrusleeping jbenet tperson krl kyledrake zignig lgierth cryptix daviddias mafintosh
<jbenet> guys remember that this pings people
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<whyrusleeping> yeah, we should set it to send notices instead of messages to chat
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<whyrusleeping> writing up a sprint update
<deltab> what difference would notices make?
<whyrusleeping> notices only show up to the person they are sent to
<whyrusleeping> but it shows in the channel it was sent in
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<deltab> oh right, a notice to the asker, not the people listed
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<whyrusleeping> yeap
<voxelot2> hey whyrusleeping, can you look at this
<voxelot2> any reason why add is returning a hash with nothing in it?
<whyrusleeping> is nothing being printed by line 35?
<voxelot2> the hash is getting printed
<voxelot2> then i try to cat the hash and don't see the text
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<whyrusleeping> you try to cat it outside of javascript?
<whyrusleeping> like, using the CLI?
<voxelot2> yeah
<mappum> voxelot2: i don't see where that code sets the value of 'hash' to anything other than an empty string
<voxelot2> that's just there to be filled with the response from add later so i can retreive later at different parts of the site
<voxelot2> was going to set it equal to the response but currently ipfs is adding blank info
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<voxelot2> 0.3.7 is still our current working version right?
<voxelot2> wait it's working now...
<voxelot2> did a go get
<whyrusleeping> updating fixed your javascript problem?
<voxelot2> yup
<voxelot2> well it was an api problem
<jbenet> whyrusleeping: we should update the version number after a release, so that _master_ is ahead of the last released version.
<whyrusleeping> jbenet: thats a good idea
<jbenet> (so master is technically at 0.3.8-dev
<jbenet> or something
<whyrusleeping> yeah, want to do that now?
<jbenet> whyrusleeping sure
<whyrusleeping> cool, i'll push that up
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<jbenet> whyrusleeping: wish we abandon go get so we could do <git-shorthash> in there with some sed magic...
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<whyrusleeping> yeah... go get is so restricting
<whyrusleeping> i would *love* if it allowed us to run some scripts before or after building
<mg__> Why not rely on a update.sh-script that clones/pulls from the repo and builds?
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created version-bump (+1 new commit): http://git.io/vsLg1
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/version-bump e9bedb1 Jeromy: bump development version...
<whyrusleeping> mg__: then people need to all have that update script
<whyrusleeping> go get is nice because it comes with the go tool
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #1588: bump development version (master...version-bump) http://git.io/vsLa3
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<mg__> Yeah. But people building from source are probably willing to go that one extra step anyway? Also, the `curl -sSf some.url/update.sh | sh` trick is a oneliner too :)
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/mfs from fb5a5c8 to 0424f7a: http://git.io/vOWXQ
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mfs fe9ac41 Jeromy: WIP: implement mfs API...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mfs 3c2dfad Jeromy: make ipns fuse mount use mfs...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/mfs 42d2550 Jeromy: move session option up to root...
<jbenet> whyrusleeping mg__ we have our own built binaries, so we can add the extra steps for the users who want to build from source. many of our users do not have go installed, and are often installing it _just to_ compile ipfs.
<jbenet> (i.e. if it was a small tool, i'd like to keep go-get-ability, but here we don't need to)
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