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<Mateon1> Uh oh, somebody didn't pin the gx deps
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<Mateon1> I can't gx install from master right now
<jbenet> cc whyrusleeping Kubuxu ^
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<slothbag> Hi guys, just curious, what are the benefits of submitting data into IPFS in IPLD format? Obviously being able to link to sub documents via the pathing conventions is nice.. but If I dont need that then is there much benefit over just storing data in my own format?
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<kumavis> im pinning some content locally
<kumavis> i can ls it locally
<kumavis> i can get it from the ipfs.io gateway
<kumavis> but i cant get it from my server and my friend cant get it on his machine
<kumavis> both have peers
<kumavis> the lookup just hangs
<kumavis> is this normal behavior ?
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<tidux[m]> Possibly. IPFS can take a LONG time to resolve and start downloading. It's better than it used to be but issues remain.
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<kumavis> just realized that `ipfs ls` seems to hang but i can cat specific files
<kumavis> this works: `ipfs cat QmaN3NBcJxy7k8SSyMfcwJmtpwEBMujjhHY7K6iuSrT7KW/config`
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<kumavis> this hangs `ipfs ls QmaN3NBcJxy7k8SSyMfcwJmtpwEBMujjhHY7K6iuSrT7KW`
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<kumavis> ipfs refs works
<kumavis> ok seems 4 of 11 refs hang
<kumavis> interesting - if i open all the refs on the ipfs gateway, they all work on my server
<kumavis> my guess is that my ipfs host is a bit firewalled, and my consumer cant get through however the gateway can, and when it does it pins/caches
<kumavis> i think there was some talk about bridging connections? is that real and live in go-ipfs?
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<dignifiedquire> good mornng
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: do you see this
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<kumavis> running a program that uses js-ipfs. i have a daemon running with default settings. the program says that it has completed certain puts. but i cant cat them, even locally
<kumavis> what might be going wrong?
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<jbenet> dignifiedquire daviddias o/
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<dignifiedquire> jbenet: all thanks to the great HAMT
<jbenet> dignifiedquire what do you mean?
<dignifiedquire> the log above is about full npm being inside and ipfs repos using the new directoru sharding
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<victorbjelkholm[> good morning folks!
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<victorbjelkholm[> kumavis: keep in mind that subfiles don't work yet. jsipfs cat /ipfs/:hash will work but not jsipfs cat /ipfs/:hash/:file
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<mib_kd743naq> I found another problem with cidv1 ( I think )
<mib_kd743naq> putting together a writeup, ~10 mins
<victorbjelkholm[> daviddias: which is the main js-ipld repository to link on the ipld website? Found https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-dag-pb/ and https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-dag-cbor that seems to fit the bill
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<mib_kd743naq> ok found it
<mib_kd743naq> within a link I can easily say:
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<mib_kd743naq> Tag1_LengthDelimited + 36 + 0x01 + 0x72(soon to be 0x55) + 0x12 + 0x20 + sha256 <--- that works when it points to a raw data leaf
<mib_kd743naq> but it does *not* work when I do:
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<mib_kd743naq> Tag1_LengthDelimited + 36 + 0x01 + 0x70 + 0x12 + 0x20 + sha256_of_another_link ( the link having been added via `block put -f protobuf` )
<mib_kd743naq> Kubuxu: ^^ is this expected that links to links are still only recognized by v0 pointers exclusively?
<mib_kd743naq> I can put an actual example on the network if the above isn't sufficient to illustrate my question
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<mib_kd743naq> https://github.com/ipfs/go-cid/blob/master/cid.go#L19 <--- where I got \x70 from
<mib_kd743naq> whyrusleeping: ^^ in case you are awake ;)
<JustinDrake> I have written an IPFS crawler/pinger using go-ipfs. There are the agent versions (with counts) for the nodes I can ping { 'go-libp2p/3.3.4': 151, 'go-libp2p/0.1.0': 26 }
<JustinDrake> Is it normal that there are only two agent versions, namely go-libp2p/3.3.4 and go-libp2p/0.1.0?
<JustinDrake> What about js-libp2p? What other versions of go-libp2p?
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<daviddias> victorbjelkholm[: main repo? Would be those you found plus interface-ipld-format
<daviddias> victorbjelkholm[: plus https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-resolver
<victorbjelkholm[> daviddias: hm, yeah, I'm thinking about the repository to link from the webpage, which could only be one, unless we want to link to multiple repos
<victorbjelkholm[> there is no entrypoint for js-ipld?
<daviddias> yeah, downloading one of the modules doesn't get you muchj
<daviddias> only https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-resolver + one of the ipld formats
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: sweet!
<daviddias> so, no more OOM?
<daviddias> ipfs files ls /npm-registry | wc -l shows the right number?
<daviddias> jbenet: morning!
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: not sure yet, flush is still running
<daviddias> seharder: \o/ awesome!
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: I hope the gateways are feeling well, I want to start distributing this data ;)
<mib_kd743naq> hmm... is there no equivalent for `ipfs block put` via the HTTP API ? I keep getting "This command can't be called directly. Try one of its subcommands."
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<Mateon1> daviddias: Thanks :)
<victorbjelkholm[> daviddias: ah, I see... Makes things a bit messy, but we'll figure it out
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<victorbjelkholm[> daviddias: any plans on providing bundle like with libp2p-ipfs?
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<daviddias> well, the bundle is js-ipfs :D
<daviddias> js-ipfs and the new dag API
<victorbjelkholm[> haha :p
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<victorbjelkholm[> for folks who are interested in using just ipld I mean
<Mateon1> daviddias: There are no providers for that hash, is your node online?
<JustinDrake> Can anyone here provide insight on https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/202?
<mib_kd743naq> argh, I've been talking to the wrong port...
<Mateon1> daviddias: The ipfs.io page just loaded, but I still see no providers on my local node
<Mateon1> Okay, I now see providers, disregard that
<daviddias> JustinDrake: answered :)
<JustinDrake> daviddias: Thanks :)
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<daviddias> Mateon1: here is a new hash http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZ68ktrtrCWBJ1wBYccinkGExpnLojcqgM6HrkToTpNyU, the previous one had a folder name that didn't make sense for the content (I guess it was default ot zoom)
<Mateon1> Okay, cool
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<haad> daviddias: where are we with the new DAGNode? ready to merge?
<daviddias> finishing updating tests accross the board
<daviddias> minutes from getting done on interface-ipfs-core
<daviddias> having reviews would make it faster :)
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<daviddias> haad: wanna review the PR's?
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<haad> daviddias: oh no :/ didn't know there's so many things dependant on it.
<daviddias> well, every consumer of the API needs to be updated
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<mib_kd743naq> Kubuxu, whyrusleeping: I have to disconnect, but will read log as usual
<mib_kd743naq> if you could shed some light on links-to-links via cidv1 it would be great
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<haad> daviddias: I'll try to review some but got my hands full getting pubsub stuff working for the weekend
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<daviddias> roger
<daviddias> victorbjelkholm[: dignifiedquire can I get some reviews on https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/617 ?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: also, could you take a peak at https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-unixfs-engine/pull/88, I keep losing the same 34 bytes on files bigger than the chunk size
<daviddias> trying to pinpoint where that happens
<daviddias> everything is looking the same (just with new dag-pb API)
<daviddias> btw, the new dag-pb API saves so much lines of code (plus so many CPU cycles)
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<daviddias> oh, I think I know!
<dignifiedquire> +130 −112 doesn't look like they are saving lines on unixfs :P
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<daviddias> ok, now missing 10 bytes, getting close
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<dignifiedquire> lol
<daviddias> you know what it is?
<dignifiedquire> not yet now
<dignifiedquire> *no
<haad> daviddias: yeah the new dag api looks really nice! and it'll be way more performant than the old one
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: mh? gateways always feel well
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<dignifiedquire> lgierth: weellll I'm thinking of pinning the whole npm thingy as soon as it is flushed to disk
<dignifiedquire> maybe just one server for now? it's a bit of data ;)
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<lgierth> no you don't
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<lgierth> the gateways have 60G disk for the fs-repo, so you literally don't pin it
<lgierth> :]
<lgierth> and before we fix that bitswap wantlist inconsistency it's not gonna fly really :/
<dignifiedquire> :/
<dignifiedquire> too bad
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: npm installing..
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: what's the dedup like?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: thank you :)
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: not sure yet
<daviddias> do you have any other stuff on that repo?
<daviddias> otherwise just du the folder
<dignifiedquire> yeah there is other stuff from previous attempts
<dignifiedquire> need to 1. flush (waiting for that) 2. pin the top level hash 3. run a gc
<daviddias> roger
<daviddias> haad: would merging and releasing (like right now) the dag-pb on js-ipfs-api side help you while we finish the js-ipfs side?
<haad> daviddias: yes it would! :)
<daviddias> ok, let's do it then :)
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: https://github.com/stevelacy/gulp-bump/commits/master 2.5.1 was released
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: cool
<daviddias> I hope to not see js-ipfs-api version 111 again :D
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: fixed the exporter at least :) still working on the importer
<kenshyx> so this release comes with toJSON() sync again?
<daviddias> kenshyx: yes :)
<daviddias> and multihash
<daviddias> and size
<kenshyx> :D
<kenshyx> nice
<haad> daviddias: I cleaned up the upcoming PRs to js-ipfs-api here: https://github.com/haadcode/js-ipfs-api/commits/refactor/pubsub (both nicely in individual commits). I'm not gonna PR them yet, let's put the new DAG api in first and then see if we have time before the weekend to go through those (they're fairly big)
<daviddias> sounds good :)
<kenshyx> pinning a DAGNode goes recursive?
<daviddias> you have options on the pinning API
<kenshyx> @_@ nice that's what I needed
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<kenshyx> so this would work from js-ipfs-api if I send to opts {recursive: true}? it's not documented :D
<kenshyx> api.pin.add(hash, {recursive: true}, ...)
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<daviddias> kenshyx: that will work with js-ipfs-api , yes :)
<daviddias> wanna help us get that documented?
<daviddias> well, actually it is document
<kenshyx> my bad, didn't see :)
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<daviddias> no problem :)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: found the bug
<dignifiedquire> it's in ipld-dag-pb
<dignifiedquire> empty string names where converted to undefined
<dignifiedquire> changing the serialized size
<daviddias> oh wow, that escaped all the tests
<daviddias> where did you made the change, in the toProtobuf?
<daviddias> link.name || link.name : '' ?
<dignifiedquire> need to change link.name || link.Name to link.name != null ? link.name : link.Name
<dignifiedquire> adding a test now
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: pushed fix & test for dag-pb
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: only two more tests failing in unixfs :D
<daviddias> still missing byte count?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: could you confirm? I don't see a new branch or PR on https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-dag-pb
<daviddias> got it, on feat/immutable
<dignifiedquire> ups didn't know this was merged yet
<dignifiedquire> yeah it's on the old PR branch
<daviddias> wanna PR as new branch?
<dignifiedquire> yes, found more bugs in dag-pb
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<daviddias> rebase master onto your new branch, I might have fixed a bug after you git cloned
<daviddias> namely, the empty dagnodes
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<dignifiedquire> okay
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<dignifiedquire> still a bug in dag-pb, the node.JSON() is the same as in go-ipfs but the multihash is wrong :)
<dignifiedquire> :Ö(
<dignifiedquire> :(
<daviddias> oh,
<daviddias> PR what you have please, want to debug that as well
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: pushed all I got so far here: https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-dag-pb/pull/9
<dignifiedquire> it's storing the individual files correctly, but the encompassing dir node is not stored correctly
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: seems the issue is that the links are not in the correct order
<dignifiedquire> not sure why though
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<daviddias> I just added a test deserializing a big file node
<daviddias> with a bunch of links and it seems ok (both multihash and links)
<daviddias> but if it is directory case, means that files in directories are not being correctly sorted
<daviddias> I know that in files, go-ipfs orders the chunks by offset
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<daviddias> yeah and for named links, they get sorted by name
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<daviddias> I believe that the final problem my rely really on unixfs-engine, cause just added two tests to dag-pb with go-ipfs blocks
<daviddias> with unnamed and named links
<daviddias> and all is fine
<dignifiedquire> got the fix
<dignifiedquire> will push in a sec
<daviddias> \o/
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: pushed
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<dignifiedquire> gotta run now, but all passing in unixfs and dag-pb now
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<daviddias> which one?
<daviddias> I'm not seeing a new commit
<dignifiedquire> only dag-pb got new commits
<daviddias> should it be here? https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld-dag-pb/pull/9
<dignifiedquire> damn you pushed stuff
<dignifiedquire> my push failed
<dignifiedquire> now
<daviddias> ah, roger
<daviddias> sorry and big thank you <3
<daviddias> oh, so sortInplace doesn't do the Inplace anymore
<daviddias> interesting
<dignifiedquire> it never was inplace, only stable: https://www.npmjs.com/package/stable
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<daviddias> great catch
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<dignifiedquire> always happy to help :)
<JustinDrake> Is the IPFS newsletter inactive? http://tinyletter.com/ipfsnewsletter/archive
<dignifiedquire> daviddias:
<dignifiedquire> now pinning
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<mib_kd743naq> I am back with more questions about raw leaves / unixfs
<mib_kd743naq> I realized I am in a situation where I have many repeated leaves: in fact so many that the dataset of all unique leaves + all links is *larger* with CIDV1 pointers, since my links are now larger while the individual blocks are smaller
<mib_kd743naq> is there a downside for me sticking with the old Qm... stuff for the time being (until ipld is fully ready ) ?
<mib_kd743naq> I am sorry I keep asking different variations of the same base question: there is no definitive info in any of the notes on what is the future of unixfs :/
<lgierth> it won't be removed
<lgierth> there's probably gonna be an ipld-based successor format some time next year
<lgierth> but the current merkledag-based unixfs will stay
<kumavis> victorbjelkholm[: thanks - yes im just cat'ing flat hashes
<mib_kd743naq> right... so I will just ignore raw leaves for now then... I think
<kumavis> ah some insight
<kumavis> > Currently it uses raw objects (which are valid in ipfs, but not all tools support it) - with ipld that will be solved.
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: sweet, flush worked? :D
<mib_kd743naq> hm... another really surprising finding: when I experiment with *really* large trees ( ~100k edges ), it seems that having link-blocks that are ~64k long performs the best, with larger link-blocks performing worse on a cat from localhost (network isn't consulted at all)
<mib_kd743naq> I wonder what this is: it stands to reason that the larger a link-containing node is: the more efficient things should be
<mib_kd743naq> yet a cat over 5 chained ~1mb link bundles takes several minutes, while the same links arranged in a chain of many ~64k blocks takes ~5 secs
<mib_kd743naq> my link-structure is just like described here: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/687#issuecomment-72154559
<mib_kd743naq> whyrusleeping: ^^ would you happen to know why the performance degradation?
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<kumavis> @mib_kd743naq hitting a memory ceiling?
<lgierth> mib_kd743naq: kevina might know more
<mib_kd743naq> not that I can see: the process just spins for longer at 100%cpu ( it's always pegged, just depends for how long )
<kumavis> maybe time to learn dtrace
<mib_kd743naq> I suppose, though that's a battle for another day
<mib_kd743naq> I should make some files, put them on the network...
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: yep
<daviddias> go-ipfs is solid!
<daviddias> <3 whyrusleeping et al.
<dignifiedquire> yeah pinning is taking it sweet time though, but I guess that's to be expected with this size
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<Kubuxu> dignifiedquire: yeah, will be slower and slower as pins are added
<Kubuxu> because we do something like sharding but the tree is rebuilt from ground 0 every new pin.
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<Kubuxu> daviddias: so what should I do about the psk pnet spec? Can I PR it to libp2p/specs and just create directory `protocols`?
<Kubuxu> mib_kd743naq: the trickledag that was finally used isn't directly list of lists that is shown in the picture
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<kenshyx> daviddias: js-ipfs-api won't work on electron because of node-webcrypto-ossl
<kenshyx> just found out that chromium uses a fork of OpenSSL
<kenshyx> so bye bye build
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<tidux[m]> and of course Google being a bunch of NIH losers had to do this instead of contributing to LibreSSL
<Kubuxu> whole bunch of distro ISOs /ipfs/QmVCEQ5rsivCb5EWNLZ8paceBHrD4XT11buHrd3ajg9iZ5
<Kubuxu> fs:/ipfs/QmVCEQ5rsivCb5EWNLZ8paceBHrD4XT11buHrd3ajg9iZ5
<dignifiedquire> Kubuxu: it is worse than expected, the daemon just died on me because of the pin
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: are you around?
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<dignifiedquire> sorry for the problems, we will try to improve
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<kenshyx> dignifiedquire: no problem :D, thanks for the support ^_^
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<Kubuxu> dignifiedquire: interesing
<Kubuxu> it might be using so much memory that it dies
<Kubuxu> maybe pin the sharded dir instead
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: just published https://github.com/dignifiedquire/fast-cbor
<dignifiedquire> tests are all passing
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<daviddias> I'm waiting for the "even-more-fast-cbor"
<daviddias> :D
<daviddias> sweet!
<JustinDrake> Where can I find an explanation of what floodsub is?
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