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<assadf> what do i do after ipfs swarm connect? I try ipfs ls followed by the hash thing at the end and it does nothing?
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<assadf> what the fuck am i supposed to type after ipfs tour
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<lemmi> ipfs init, ipfs daemon, ipfs help <command>, add files, try to get them out again, find hashes to poke around with,... you know
<lemmi> there's a reddit, there's a forum, you have the ipfs.io homepage
<assadf> okay so i typed ipfs swarm connect followed by one of the lines of output from ipfs swarm peers
<assadf> how do i browse files stored on that node
<assadf> when i type ipfs ls it does nothing
<kode54> yeah, you can't really do that
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<assadf> also one of the commands is supposed to be ipfs tour and i know there's supposed to be something after tour but what
<lemmi> i think the tour isn't really a thing anymore
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<lemmi> there are also a couple of introduction videos
<assadf> probably should remove that from the docs then since I just spent fifteen minutes scratching my head
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<ginseng> if i upload a file to ipfs, is there a way to know how many other nodes have accessed (and thus locally saved) a copy of the file to their systems?
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<deltab> ginseng: ipfs dht findprov I think
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<liwakura> hi, i started the ipfs daemon, and its drawing network bandwidth
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<liwakura> at the current speed i'll be at like, 60 - 70 GB per months, while my dataplan is just 50 GB
<liwakura> is there a way to reduce idle data usage?
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<ilyaigpetrov> Hi. I consider keeping a long log of events on ipfs/ipns. If the log is very long, how should I read latest events or even search among years of events?
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<grawity> that's up to your logging backend to provide backwards searches and good indexing...
<grawity> oh wait, I misread
<grawity> keeping the log *on* ipfs, not of?
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<Kythyria[m]> The obvious dumb way to store a log is as a series of chunks each of which points to the preceding chunk, which is horribly inefficient to do anything to but read in reverse chronological order. A more reasonable random-access structure has the difficulty of preventing it from degenerating to that without requiring every pinning node to frequently throw away most of the index.
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<Kythyria[m]> That said, if you want to do random access by timestamp something like a good old fashioned B+ tree doesn't churn much.
<grawity> rotate the indexes every month?
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<Kythyria[m]> Yeah. I figure for indexes that would need things inserted in the middle you would have to split the index each span of time or amount of data added and track the resultant shards. Adjust shard size to suit how much data you want to invalidate every time the database grows.
<Kythyria[m]> There may be index structures that are better for this, probably invented for use with languages that don't do mutable data.
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<deltab> grawity: the work on trickledag might be relevant
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<mrdoob> macbookair:Downloads mrdoob$ ipfs - Global p2p merkle-dag filesystem
<mrdoob> Error: Unknown Command "-"
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<mrdoob> 😶
<mrdoob> Oh, is it because I don’t have go?
<mrdoob> That must be it...
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<lemmi> mrdoob: unlikely
<mrdoob> Ohm…
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<Alpha64> oh what are you tryint o do?
<lemmi> mrdoob: if it's compiled, you don't need go anymore
<Alpha64> run ipfs daemon to start the daemon
<Alpha64> ipfs add <file> to add it
<mrdoob> Oh
<mrdoob> hold on. I misunderstood the instructions :)
<Alpha64> " ipfs - Global p2p merkle-dag filesystem" is just the first line of the help
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<mrdoob> I was supposed to run ipfs help
<mrdoob> And not the ipfs Global thing :P
<Alpha64> to serve files the daemon needs to be running remember that
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<mrdoob> Maybe the instructions should precede the first commands with > too…
<mrdoob> > tar xvfz go-ipfs.tar.gz
<mrdoob> > mv go-ipfs/ipfs /usr/local/bin/ipfs
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<mrdoob> All clear now. Thanks for the help!
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<assadf> if i am running ipfs daemon what exactly does that mean for my computer?
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<assadf> Basically I would like a detailed explanation of everything that has gone wrong in the past using ipfs as well as an educated guess about what could go wrong in the future.
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