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<abueide> oh your right you do need a contract to lock a name to make sure it renews. if you burned it you would lose control of it after it expires
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<popcorn> this here is an example of a permission contract that could own an ENS name and set permissions https://gist.github.com/resilience-me/9332efe8a877fd717ba73dbd8353c3bb
<popcorn> lockTextKey() can set the value for "ipfs" to be locked for a period of time
<popcorn> lockAddress() can lock the address the name points to
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<popcorn> lockOwnership() can lock the ownership of the ENS name
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<[itchyjunk]> Are those API's? or your functions?
<popcorn> I wrote that now
<popcorn> struct Permissions keeps track of how long the ownership, address, and text-keys are locked
<popcorn> if I upload the permissions contract, and put ipfsreg.eth on it, I can lock ipfsreg.eth to an address so that it cannot edit its code to point to some other place maliciously
<popcorn> first, I have to lock the ownership of ipfsreg.eth to the ENS_Permissions contract
<popcorn> using lockOwnership()
<popcorn> and then I can also lock the text-key "ipfs"
<popcorn> for danakil.eth for example
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<popcorn> so ENS_Permissions creates immutable domain
<popcorn> domains
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<abueide> popcorn, what project are you working on?
<abueide> just intellectual property on ethereum?
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<popcorn> a couple of different projects, the work with that thesis has been a side project in many ways. it's a brilliant thesis tough, it ties together genetic data from last year from Popadin et al that showed interbreeding between the gorilla lineage and humans/chimpanzee/paranthropus ancestors 6 million years ago, with La Lumiere and Elaine Morgan's idea that Australopithecus speciated on Danakil, and that the Afar region was covered in wat
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<popcorn> another project from the past days is a "wordbot", for human-readable timestamps, https://gist.github.com/resilience-me/44735da30ea64262159fcb26977d3a5f
<popcorn> for legal timestamps in public records such as video messages
<popcorn> the permissionsBot now has a factory, and each bot can only be activated after ownership of an ENS name has been transferred to it
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<[itchyjunk]> Can ipfs be called distributed ledger or would that be wrong?
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<makeworld[m]> itchyjunk: that would be wrong
<makeworld[m]> IPFS is a distributed system to host and access files
<makeworld[m]> It is not inherently a ledger, although it contains ledger like elements, and could be used to build a ledger
<[itchyjunk]> So it's a distributed file system?
<[itchyjunk]> Distribution depends on the `users` thought right?
<[itchyjunk]> if my file only sits on my computer and no one else is mirroring it, in that case it's not?
<makeworld[m]> yep. distribution of a specific file depends on who has cached it
<[itchyjunk]> ah okay
<[itchyjunk]> thanks
<makeworld[m]> you cache files by accessing them
<[itchyjunk]> oh
<[itchyjunk]> More access means more distributed for that file then
<makeworld[m]> yes if a file is only on your computer it is not decentralized, but it has the potential to be
<makeworld[m]> yep
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<kaotisk> makeworld[m], so under which circumstances my first upload is getting better availability? Does a gateway like ipfs.io also seeds after gatewaying the files through itself?
<kaotisk> or do I need to set my friends up with IPFS, have them pin the file?
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<vespertatia> gateways typically runs garbage collection periodically. you have to: ipfs provide <hash> then let your friends pin it
<vespertatia> sorry, it's: ipfs dht provide <hash>
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<kaotisk> vespertatia, thank you
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<Lrrr[m]> what is difference between cache vs pin?
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<nixze> Lrrr[m]: I think; pin forces the node to keep the data if garbagecollection is done, while cache does not keep the data in that case
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<abax1> If I run a ipfs node on my machine, I assume that the space I allocate on my drive is for the IPFS community to use as data storage?
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<ylp> abax1: I don't think so, you only cache data you retrieved from ipfs network
<ylp> and also what you add manually
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<abax1> @ylp, ok thanks.
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<swedneck[m]> `ipfs add` also pins whatever you add
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<ylp> swedneck[m]: ipfs add don't pin by default, I think
<ylp> ipfs add --pin=true
<ylp> or
<ylp> ipfs pin add
<swedneck[m]> yes it does, it'd be weird if it didn't
<swedneck[m]> what's the point of adding something to your ipfs node but not pinning it?
<ylp> caching
<swedneck[m]> i'm not sure what you mean
<ylp> add some content that you don't mind to loose when you need space to get/add more data
<nixze> ylp: ipfs add --pin Default is true
<ylp> ok
<swedneck[m]> i'm not talking about getting content from the network, i'm talking about adding a file to your own ipfs node
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<Kolonka[m]> TUSF: let me know if you make any progress on your login system
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<djdv> IPFS all-hands call will be starting soon (16UTC) https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/660
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<jamiew> djdv: thanks for posting the link :) saves me some last-minute scrambling right at noon
<djdv> Been there :^)
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<djdv> IPFS all-hands call is starting! https://zoom.us/j/779351365
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<carsonfarmer[m]> Just in case there are any students looking for free tickets to dweb summit next week: https://medium.com/textileio/decentralized-web-summit-2018-free-student-giveaway-3881989a5dd1
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<jamiew> semi-related to the call, are there any plans to swap https://ipfs.io/docs to point at https://github.com/ipfs/docs instead? Latter is significantly more up-to-date
<jamiew> could use DNSLink on e.g. docs.ipfs.io :)
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<djdv> IPFS all hands call for this week has concluded, a recording can be found here: https://youtu.be/M6kvJI68-3A
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<mgoelzer> When does js-ipfs standup normally start? At 10:08 PT, somebody (I think it was Alan) said "we're 8 minutes over" but I had thought it was *supposed* to start at 10:00. Guess normal start is half past the previous hour?
<djdv> my calendar (EST) shows 12:30-1:00 for the JS weekly
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<swedneck[m]> you should upload the recording to peertube as well!
<djdv> our recordings are CC licensed ;^)
<swedneck[m]> they would look better on an official ipfs channel :P
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> so fun fact.. if a ipfs is isolated (no other nodes connected with it) ipns add does not work
<[itchyjunk]> Why is that?
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<substack> is there any spec for following a list of ipfs links from a doc pointed to by ipld?
<substack> thinking of newline-separated list of links. also how would something like that integrate with filecoin?
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<lgierth> substack: would ipfs://$cid work, or dweb:/ipfs/$cid
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<substack> yes the format of the links is not so important, more just asking if there are tools that can already follow a list of links
<substack> s/follow/mirror/
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<lgierth> oh i see - not sure, i'm not aware of any
<lgierth> ipld formats do that somewhat, but not in "documents"
<lgierth> i assume you mean html, odt, etc.
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<substack> here is my use case: I am making an audio editor and I want something that makes it easy to mirror everything published by a particular user
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<Powersource[m]> substack: have that user put all the files in a dir, and then have people mirror it by pinning the hash of that dir?
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