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<stebalien> Ah. Nice!
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<fiatjaf> I have the problem of losing the addresses of stuff I pin
<fiatjaf> how do you deal with that?
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<JCaesar> fiatjaf: use mfs.
<JCaesar> Ie ipfs files cp /ipfs/QmPinnedHash /blubbs/some_memorable_name.
<JCaesar> In fact, you can remove the pin after you do that. (Or not even pin them in the first place.)
<JCaesar> Alternatively, you can wrap everything you pin in a folder and give it a descriptive name. then you just list all your pins and find the one you want.
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<vespertatia> Anyone has solution for running ipfs behind CGNAT? I really want to run a node and I can pin a lot of data, say ~ 2 TB :(
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<jyarrow[m]> Who is interested in building a semantic web on IPFS? By using a graph database we can model relationships between texts for elaborating fields of meaning. Find me on Twitter: @JYarrow4 . . I'm also working on publishing these ideas at: future-democracy.ghost.io
<whyrusleeping> jyarrow[m]: that sounds really cool
<whyrusleeping> feel free to post any updates you have here :)
<jyarrow[m]> I've been working on these ideas for a while, and I'm ready to open up and start collaborating. I will definitely keep updates posted.
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<jyarrow[m]> I've started a thread on going at discuss.ipfs.io: https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/collective-intelligence-generating-the-semantic-web/3250
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<shoku> Anyone here know if IPFS has been used for gaming?
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<FraYoshi1> yes, for games like snake or so on ^^
<FraYoshi1> sorry, i confused with ZeroNet, i don't know =)
<FraYoshi1> but the thing could be easily done ^^
<TUSF> I figure it can probably be used in the same way some games use BitTorrent to distribute updates without overloading any one server.
<Swedneck> is there anything bittorrent can do that ipfs can't?
<Swedneck> only thing i can think of is bittorrent being a lot more established and stable
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<stanford_ai> My app is this: https://NotPCbro.com and I want to make it run on IPFS. But how can I push to a List in IPFS? Making an entire new file whenever I push to a list sounds like too computationally expensive and lots of networking required as well!
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<FraYoshi1> IPNS =)
<FraYoshi1> or maybe also pub/sub?
<r0kk3rz> stanford_ai: orbit-db can help
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<r0kk3rz> stanford_ai: you can also make each post its own block, and the list is an index of blocks, rather than one monolithic file for everything
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<stanford_ai> r0kk3rz: I know that blocks can have links... I could add new links to a List block. However, how many links can I add?
<stanford_ai> FraYoshi1: how would IPNS help besides keeping track of the NEW files? What I'm trying to avoid is having to upload a fully new file every time
<stanford_ai> FraYoshi1: and OrbitDB is good but I don't know what it's doing in the background. It might be sending entire large files every time it adds something to one
<shoku> Is there some sort of indexer of ipns? where people show off their legal stuff?
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<r0kk3rz> stanford_ai: think of things in terms of blocks, not files, and figure out a structure that works with your data
<stanford_ai> r0kk3rz: yes, I agree. I could have a linked-list model perhaps... am I able to modify links in an ipfs object? or are links also immutable?
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<r0kk3rz> the address is the hash of the block, the block includes the hash of the linked block
<r0kk3rz> so yeah, if you want to change the links then the blocks change too
<stanford_ai> r0kk3rz: dammit, then making a list that's dynamic means having a linked-list structure, where IPNS points to the FIRST item, and then items can change if necessary, right?
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<Swedneck> i think you'd have to point to the last item
<Swedneck> unless i'm confusing terms here
<r0kk3rz> id make it a DAG rather than a simple list
<r0kk3rz> so for eg. an index block with links to all the other blocks, and the index knows the order
<r0kk3rz> reorder == reindex
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<shoku> so I'm still curious about this
<shoku> If there some sort of indexer of ipns? where people show off their legal stuff?
<shoku> kinda like an old school search engine
<Swedneck> i know there's ipfs-search.com
<Swedneck> not that i have a clue what it does lmao
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<ylp> shoku: you can listen to "handleAddProvider" events on you node to see part of what is added to ipfs
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<shoku> thanks
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<shoku> I think it'd be safer and better to have user generated pages that say "this is this!"
<shoku> someone here earlier was talking about how dtube should be an indexer, rather than a whole hosting thing, and I fully agree
<shoku> basically doing this for youtube-like or soundcloud-like stuff could be interesting
<shoku> I'll have a look
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<JCaesar> Swedneck: Listen for provide announces, get folders and filenames, throw into database?
<JCaesar> shoku: You kind of want something like "i throw a file named metafoo.json into a folder, there I give a description text, a path to the video(?) and links to related videos", and then some indexer finds those and makes them nicely viewable?
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<shoku> Yeah, I'm gonna work on something like that I think
<shoku> if there are examples out there, I'd love to know about them
<shoku> m
<JCaesar> I assume you already found https://github.com/ipfs-search/ipfs-search ? The database files were also on ipfs at some point…
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<fiatjaf> JCaesar: if I remove the pin won't the contents be garbage collected? or does mfs has a special protection for that?
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<fiatjaf> JCaesar, I was doing the wrap-everything-in-a-folder model, but it is getting cumbersome to reorganize everything every time I want to pin something new. I'm doing mfs now and it is much better. are you sure I can unpin the contents?
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<fiatjaf> JCaesar, I have a problem, however, with IPLD contents. I can't add arbitrary dag objects with data to mfs as they're not files. is there a nice solution to that you can give me?
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<fiatjaf> shoku, I wanted to create a general-purpose "ipfshub" that people could access, authorize with their own ipfs keys (perhaps generate a new key for it once the user clicks 'sign up'), but then have nice usernames, names for pins, a way to nicely browse the pinned content, tags for content and all that stored on a simple database, everything public and so on.
<fiatjaf> what do you think?
<fiatjaf> I can't compile go-ipfs from source. some gx packages are missing and it's impossible to fetch them.
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<olizilla> is there an api for finding out if you have a CID in your local repo already?
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<lidel> olizilla, there is `ipfs refs local` which lists all local refs, worst case scenario is that there is no better api and you need to grep its output
<TUSF> Yeah, best you can do is `ipfs refs local | grep <HASH>`
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<lidel> ouch, sounds like a good opportunity to request a new API
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<whyrusleeping> olizilla: lidel hrm... there is a way to do this i'm pretty sure
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: stebalien didnt we have an `ipfs blocks has` or `ipfs repo has` command?
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: not sure
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<kevina> and if we did I am not sure why it would of been removed, so probably not
<kevina> there is a "--local" flag, but I am not 100% sure the intended purpose of it
<stebalien> whyrusleeping: we have ipfs files stat --with-local
<whyrusleeping> stebalien: aha!
<whyrusleeping> thats the one
<stebalien> You may be thinking of #4596 and friends.
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<stebalien> FYI, I'll be out much of today and tomorrow but should be reachable.
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<whyrusleeping> stebalien: ACK, enjoy!
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<tperson> Can any valid CID be published under IPNS, or does it have to be unix fs?
<voker57> any
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<whyrusleeping> speaking of IPNS, everyone should update to 0.4.16 (which will be released very soon)
<whyrusleeping> it will make things better
<ToxicFrog> Better how?
<whyrusleeping> a little more reliable, a little faster
<whyrusleeping> a little less broken
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<ToxicFrog> Works on individual nodes now?
<whyrusleeping> its incremental, and improves the more everyone in the network updates to the newer code
<whyrusleeping> you'll get an improvement by updating yourself
<whyrusleeping> but the main bulk of the improvement comes from everyone updating
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<yevbar> Hello World!
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<fiatjaf> olizilla, perhaps `ipfs findprovs` will work as it will return your own node almost instantaneously
<whyrusleeping> olizilla: `ipfs files stat --with-local /ipfs/HASH` does what youre after for the most part
<ToxicFrog> whyrusleeping: right, but the issue I am specifically interested in a fix for is `ipfs name publish` not working at all if there are no other nodes connected, and since only one node is involved in that circumstance only updating myself should be necessary if it's fixed at all
<fiatjaf> (sorry, hadn't read that, ignore me)
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<fiatjaf> whyrusleeping: I'm having problems trying to fetch some gx dependencies for go-ipfs. is that common?
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<fiatjaf> specifically Qmaau1d1WjnQdTYfRYfFVsCS97cgD8ATyrKuNoEfexL7JZ/go-text
<fiatjaf> ipfs files stat --with-local returns "Local: 17 MB of 19 MB (90.23%)"
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<whyrusleeping> fiatjaf: i just installed things a minute ago and everything was accessible
<whyrusleeping> that seems odd
<fiatjaf> I tried multiple times since yesterday. a lot of dependencies are downloaded correctly but this one always fails. I guess I'll do a repo gc then try again.
<fiatjaf> (running on a digital ocean droplet)
<whyrusleeping> weird... notice any error messages?
<whyrusleeping> (froim the daemon)
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<fiatjaf> I don't see any
<fiatjaf> ipfs ls /ipfs/Qmaau1d1WjnQdTYfRYfFVsCS97cgD8ATyrKuNoEfexL7J outputs correctly a directory entry named "go-text"
<fiatjaf> ipfs ls /ipfs/Qmaau1d1WjnQdTYfRYfFVsCS97cgD8ATyrKuNoEfexL7JZ/go-text however never loads
<whyrusleeping> missing a Z on the first one?
<fiatjaf> yes, but just when pasting here
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<fiatjaf> sorry
<fiatjaf> same problem on the node running on my local machine
<whyrusleeping> i'm trying a refs -r of that hash locally now
<fiatjaf> however, I can browse it on my local gateway on localhost:8080/ipfs/
<whyrusleeping> okay, i've fetched all of that
<whyrusleeping> it appears to be available
<whyrusleeping> try ipfs swarm connect /ip4/172.79.97.0/tcp/60513/ipfs/QmZm18RRKLdTZA7tvAk21fHy2VDdcQmZ8swCxZFHLC2Tgc
<whyrusleeping> (the node i'm running right now)
<fiatjaf> from the vps I connected, but ipfs ls /ipfs/Qmaau1d1WjnQdTYfRYfFVsCS97cgD8ATyrKuNoEfexL7JZ/go-text still runs forever
<fiatjaf> from my local machine it connected too, and now I can list the directory
<fiatjaf> how can tell my node to fetch everything?
<whyrusleeping> ipfs refs -r <hash>
<fiatjaf> 18:12:21.832 ERROR cmds/http: failed to get block for QmTbtjVKDYa5txzao2NdyoPQREh96RTffSKbuHL5RM7bJu: context canceled get.go:98
<fiatjaf> I see this
<fiatjaf> and 4 of 18:11:15.540 ERROR swarm2: failed to reset connection deadline after setup: set tcp 162.243.220.95:4001: use of closed network connection swarm_dial.go:273
<fiatjaf> however ipfs cat >
<fiatjaf> ipfs cat QmTbtjVKDYa5txzao2NdyoPQREh96RTffSKbuHL5RM7bJu works
<fiatjaf> ipfs refs -r fetched all hashes on my local machine. still struggling on the vps.
<fiatjaf> perhaps it's just lack of connectivity?
<whyrusleeping> thats really weird
<whyrusleeping> what version is your vps running?
<fiatjaf> 0.4.15
<whyrusleeping> hrm...
<whyrusleeping> try restarting it?
<fiatjaf> 1042 peers. my local machine has 659.
<whyrusleeping> if that works, then maybe it means bitswap somehow got into a bad state
<whyrusleeping> ah wait
<whyrusleeping> first
<whyrusleeping> check ipfs bitswap stat on that node and see if anything is in the wantlist
<fiatjaf> restarting made it work
<whyrusleeping> okay
<fiatjaf> wantlist [1 keys]
<fiatjaf> QmaKaFF1ZJyUz3UqmS8hgkYrBMDXTdu1EbveFUHVpCvit4
<whyrusleeping> thats disconcerting
<whyrusleeping> okay, if it happens again, could you grab me a stack dump?
<whyrusleeping> via: curl localhost:5001/debug/pprof/goroutine\?debug=2
<fiatjaf> ok.
<fiatjaf> thank you very much.
<whyrusleeping> fiatjaf: are you also fiatjaf on github?
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<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], feel free to take https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/releases/tag/v2.4.0.10190 for a spin, it restores gateway redirect for CORS XHRs in Firefox
<lidel> (note this is a Beta release, so if you have Stable already installed, you need to disable it first)
<fiatjaf> whyrusleeping, yes
<whyrusleeping> fiatjaf: reported an issue on github for you: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/5183
<whyrusleeping> please let me know if anything like that happens again
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<shoku> fiatjaf I'm working on that
<darkdrgn2k[m]> so wierd but it works
* darkdrgn2k[m] uploaded an image: image.png (9KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/tomesh.net/ssdYAfFbTNtOKVitrCpZpFVn >
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> so why is it grabbing the headers again? whats the problem?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (i wanna see if i can get this issue in front of mozzila since we will be seeing ppl there soon :P)
<shoku> Guys I'm working on a site to have people tag, describe, save to list, their hashes on ipfs. That way, it'll be easy to share the links around. I'm starting from a gaming perspective, like a way to mirror gaming content that people feel needs saving from dying hosts (mods, saves, that kinda stuff). Any sort of feature requests you think would be useful, besides posting a hash and giving it
<shoku> hashtags?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> in embeded mode does not work at all.. tries to grab form ipfs.io but nothing
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://mesh.world/ <- using this stream
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> and it magically started working now
<darkdrgn2k[m]> wow
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but seems it downloads it twice
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<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], it actually download once, original request is cancelled as soon response headers are read and a new one to local gateway is sent
<lidel> original request is listed as HTTP 200 because we get Status 200 in those headers :)
<whyrusleeping> shoku: yessss, a place to save mods would be really great
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], as for the bug we had to work around, details are here: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/issues/436#issuecomment-378254294
<whyrusleeping> the hard part about that is trust
<whyrusleeping> i generally know mods are legit and not viruses if i get them from the random mod sites
<whyrusleeping> (which is to say, i don't really know they arent viruses)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> thanks.. ill ass it on :P
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<TUSF> So had anyone tried making a shell to interact with mfs?
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<TUSF> Might not actually be that useful, but it's an interesting thought
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<lidel> TUSF, kinda related, alanshaw created a poc that mounts mfs over fuse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkTEBdM6aA (link to repo in description)
<TUSF> Now that's pretty neat.
<lidel> "a glimpse into the future" ;-)
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<whyrusleeping> TUSF: I also have this branch: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/compare/feat/mfs-fuse
<r0kk3rz> mfs?
<whyrusleeping> which is direct fuse bindings for mfs
<whyrusleeping> r0kk3rz: the `ipfs files` mutable files system
<r0kk3rz> ah mutable, cool!
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<TUSF> whyrusleeping: cool. any idea when it'll be shipped in go-ipfs?
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<whyrusleeping> TUSF: very unclear, It was a side project hack I did
<whyrusleeping> it needs cleaning up, and some work
<whyrusleeping> the biggest problem is that the fuse bindings we are using don't support flock
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<fiatjaf> shoku, I want ipfs-based authentication
<fiatjaf> also the ability to pin other people's hashes from the site
<fiatjaf> also I want the site to list the stuff you have pinned locally so you can choose what you will "publish", tag etc on the ui
<fiatjaf> using either window.ipfs (for people using ipfs companion) or js-ipfs-api talking to localhost
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