DaVu changed the topic of #libreelec to: [~ LibreELEC Support Channel ~ current release: LibreELEC (Leia) 9.0.2 RELEASE ~ No discussion/support for piracy addons ~ https://libreelec.tv/2018/04/community-builds/ ~ https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/libreelec ~]
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<The_Coolest> hey chewitt, I love the move you pulled with my openvfd driver. Congratulations
<chewitt> I gave up on common sense prevailing on your choice of GPLv3 for a kernel driver
<chewitt> but the effort is basically abandoned and I will probably just cull the repo
<chewitt> run "git grep gplv3" on any linux git repo to see how licence compatible gplv3 is
<The_Coolest> Right. So you didn't like my opinion on what you thought was a good idea, so you decided to just "fork" it, without actually forking it, because it's not even on my forks list.
<chewitt> there's no law that says forks must use the github clone process
<chewitt> CE claims to be a fork of LE .. but has no GH clone/fork relationship
<chewitt> i'd rather just use your upstream source
<chewitt> but it is not license compatible with a GPLv2 kernel
<The_Coolest> Yeah. That's just too bad
<chewitt> the only people who lose out are users
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<The_Coolest> And that dig at me in the README.md is great also.
<chewitt> honeslty.. sorry, but the whole silliness around GPLv3-itis just pissed me off, probably as much as you're pissed off
<chewitt> and text is the worlds worst medium for emotions
<The_Coolest> I get it, I had the same feeling when you proposed the changes for the addon.
<chewitt> the _best_ outcome for everyone is to license the code GPLv2 so it's kernel compatible, and I will happily nuke/pave that repo
<The_Coolest> Anyway... I just wanted to get it out there. Only saw that last night.
<chewitt> fwiw, the idea of renaming confs to follow device-tree filenames so they can be auto-loaded works well
<The_Coolest> It will not work for generic devices, because most of them use different GPIO pins to drive the display. So you'll need to have a dtb per device.
<The_Coolest> And conf file per device.
<chewitt> sure, but one of the goals (at least for LE) has always been out-of-box experience
<chewitt> legacy kernels have no upstream to send new device-trees so it all gets hoarded in local repos
<chewitt> the mainline move is a big opportunity to fix that by sending more device-trees upstream
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<chewitt> sometimes it feels like makework
<chewitt> but more effort to support hardware ultimately results in better user experience and fewer support tickets
<The_Coolest> fair enough.
<chewitt> reality is always somewhere between today and a future nirvana :)
<The_Coolest> Won't work for us till we decide to move over to mainline.
<chewitt> well, the sooner more people take an interest and push forwards in that direction, the sooner everyone wins
<The_Coolest> True. But we focus on things that actually work right now.
<The_Coolest> Anyway, I think this is a bit off topic for this channel
<chewitt> yes/no :)
<chewitt> depends on personal perspectives
<chewitt> i've been running mainline images exclusively since last summer
<chewitt> it was rather painful at first
<chewitt> but most of the stuff that I play works now
<chewitt> not all, but most
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<chewitt> and while many users arrive in forums with huge "must have" feature lists
<chewitt> the totally inferior RPi3 is still 10x more popular among LE users than any of the more capable available hardware
<The_Coolest> Yes. I know
<The_Coolest> I'm sure mainline is improving, and it will eventually get there. But I don't see it being anywhere close to feature parity with the available vendor kernel right now.
<chewitt> the stateful code path in Kodi/ffmpeg still needs a load of work, but once the Pi Foundation stop fiddling with the current GBM/MMAL hack it will lurch forwards
<spycat`> Amlogic mainline is crap, let's not pretend otherwise
<The_Coolest> phew
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<chewitt> I guess we should all abandon hope and stop working on it then :)
<spycat`> I think we should stop pretending how great it is for a start
<chewitt> it's good enough for one of the worlds largest companies to bet their next product on
<chewitt> albeit with a focus on Android not Linux
<chewitt> but still work in progress
<The_Coolest> I'm all for mainline. All I'm saying is that it's still way off from being passable as something that really works well, at least on AML
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<chewitt> I'm an optimist so I agree that it's not in a state of perfection, and I agree that kernel-time moves slowly, but I also believe it's more usable that nay-sayers give credit for, and I strongly believe the more people take and interest and start contributing to its future state, the sooner we (all) reach it
<vpeter> chewitt: now that you are here. The forum is still behaving crazy. User is blocked and still can make new post. This seems wrong to me.
<vpeter> not to mention annoying :(
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<chewitt> not my area of admin expertise, but which user, which URL?
<vpeter> then tell to cvg again.
<vpeter> cvg -> cvh
<vpeter> Let's wait for his new post.
<chewitt> that's just spam
<vpeter> really? :D
<chewitt> most of this stuff comes from a human user registering accounts and copy/pasting text
<chewitt> there are no URLs to trigger the moderation rules for first posts etc.
<chewitt> and because it's a human the anit-bot controls are bypassed
<vpeter> But I blocked this user and after time new posts was made. And visible to public.
<chewitt> how are you blocking?
<chewitt> the only thing that works is an account ban
<chewitt> (which is now done)
<vpeter> what is "account ban"? I did block this user. Is there some other function?
<chewitt> I think block means "prevent this user from contacting me" .. it's not a ban
<chewitt> i.e. stops them from PM'ing you
<vpeter> Ah.
<vpeter> Then I will just stop looking at those spams.
<chewitt> on the user screen the 'gear' icon has warn/ban/block controls
<chewitt> not sure what rights are needed for bans
<vpeter> That's explains it. Thanks.
<chewitt> some of the terminology used in burning board isn't brilliantly translated into English from the original German
<chewitt> i''ve nagged @cvh to look at rights/roles to ensure mods have ban rights
<chewitt> I'll also bump my thread in the woltlab feature-request forum asking for a "ban and remove all posts" feature .. there's a few +1's on the thread now
<chewitt> but they are still pretending their anti-spam controls are perfect, so there's resistance to implementing it
<chewitt> anyway.. I have a conference call in 20 mins and need to pre some things
<chewitt> laters all ..
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<philn> hi folks
<philn> i'm trying to build a bootable image for iMX6 but I get an error: PROJECT=NXP DEVICE=iMX6 ARCH=arm UBOOT_SYSTEM=NXP make image
<philn> FAILURE: scripts/install u-boot has failed!
<philn> cc lrusak
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<vpeter> PROJECT=NXP ARCH=arm DEVICE=iMX6 UBOOT_SYSTEM=cubox-q make image
<Smeulf> Hi everyone! I have a question about Netflix addon (CastagnaIT repo) and LE 9.0.2. We have a strange issue while resuming a video. The screen goes black, we have just have audio. As if the audio and video can't sync...
<Smeulf> Are you aware of such an issue ?
<Smeulf> (On rapsberri Pi3)
<vpeter> philn: But for me kodi tv losses signal when kodi is started. Same thing as months and months back.
<vpeter> It is unusable as expected :(
<philn> oh :(
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<philn> well i'll try it here and keep an eye on the project
<vpeter> Don't hold your breath. According to ******* this project should work long time back.
<Smeulf> Forgot to mention it works very fine on the same RPi with Kodi 9.0.1
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<Smeulf> Well, sound like i'll have to open an issue ^^ Hope it won't be a duplicate ;)
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<mack-> Smeulf: most people on the channel, it seems, check in every few hours. If not that long, the average check-in time is definitely longer than the 13 minutes you had the patience for :)
<Smeulf> mack- thanks! good to know :) I'm waiting there, plus preparing some logs in case it's not beeing reported yet
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<philn> vpeter: the system boots, i see it on the network and can ping it but no ssh and no kodi starting up
<philn> seems like the monitor lost signal indeed
<vpeter> So it happens same to you.
<vpeter> You can add ssh to boot parameters and you will have ssh :)
<vpeter> I think if you press button up or down again and again you will see kodi on tv. Try that.
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<philn> vpeter: i see the libreelect bootsplash screen for a while, then kodi's flashes for a second just before the monitor loses signal
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<vpeter> Now continue pressing up button.
<philn> yeah i have a shell now..
<philn> after adding "ssh" to the kernel cmdline
<philn> vpeter: i suppose this is related, https://pastebin.com/E7dLGPm0
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<philn> yeah pressing 'up' repeatedly brought me in kodi for a second
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<vpeter> Same as me :)
<vpeter> So useless project :-)
<philn> from another channel:
<philn> <lrusak> philn, which UBOOT_SYSTEM are you using for that?
<philn> sorry, wrong paste
<philn> <lrusak> imx is currently broken right now on 5.2 kernel anyways
<vpeter> At least it runs mainline linux.
<philn> so, maybe lrusak can give us some insights here
<vpeter> It was broken forever.
<philn> well, of course if no one debugs it it will be "broken forever"
<vpeter> Was working until it become broken :)
<vpeter> But this soc is old enough. Time to buy imx8 :-)
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<vpeter> "iMX6Q/DL still needs some love (and is semi broken in the current kernel) but that will improve with kernel 5.2"
<vpeter> I read this stories for ages now :-)
<vpeter> Not that I would care.
<vpeter> much
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<markatto> As far as I can tell, the raspi4 image on the downloads page has an empty root partition