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<emOne> buzzmarshall: cool!
<buzzmarshall> thats what happened with the old sc stuff]
<emOne> sc?
<buzzmarshall> smartcard
<emOne> ahh!!! cool!
<buzzmarshall> the core mcu in the card is based around a existing arch but with a few added commands
<emOne> ahh , so that is how things like nagra cards got cloned
<buzzmarshall> so to model the firmware properly you need to have those commands in the mcu your reversing
<emOne> what kind of arcitecture were these chips?
<emOne> yea
<buzzmarshall> kinde like what is currently going on with the guys trying to create open source drivers for the malis
<buzzmarshall> there is existing blobs
<buzzmarshall> the structure of the blobs are known
<buzzmarshall> whats not known tho is the command set thats tied to the ipcore
<buzzmarshall> slowly tho as they get figured out then a open source driver can be created
<buzzmarshall> now thats really simplified explanation but essentially whats going on
<emOne> that is aweomse
<emOne> yea
<buzzmarshall> as they test and figure out things they get better results
<emOne> I even saw some raspberry pi guys are looking at making open source bootloaders for the pi
<emOne> which I think is awesome
<buzzmarshall> but its a big task if your starting from squat
<emOne> yea
<emOne> I can only imagine
<emOne> open source drivers for arm devices will really bring in some fresh air into the arcitecture in my honest opinion
<emOne> and I really don't think that the arm licensing model has to suffer because of it
<emOne> photoshop used to be super expensive
<emOne> so if you were learning you were using pirated copis
<emOne> and the legit buyers of photoshop were mostly companies such as studio
<emOne> now they have a model where consumers who only use the spot remover tool can license photoshop and pay a monthly fee
<emOne> I think it was a win win , for adobe and everyone else
<buzzmarshall> i always looked at it from the point of view that im not wasting rediculous ammounts of money without knowing it will do what i want
<emOne> yea
<buzzmarshall> but if i were to use soemthing to make money off then its time to buy it
<emOne> yes absolutely
<emOne> I think photoshop used to be around 1000 usd or so
<emOne> and people just learning the damn tool didn't spend that money
<buzzmarshall> i think now its like most where theres a monthly fee that you just keep paying
<emOne> it was companies, design studios, marketing agencies and the like
<emOne> yep
<emOne> if you are a company there are also license fees that you pay for the amount of your workstations
<emOne> really, I think it is a win win
<emOne> because now even your average joe who just wants to remove a few specs from his photos will afford it
<emOne> if you look at the adobe stock price you will see that whatever they are doing it is working
<buzzmarshall> i agree
<emOne> they started their subscription model in 2013
<emOne> go on google an type in "adobe stock price " .. click on "max" to see all the years
<buzzmarshall> seems like such much software these days have moved to that type of model
<emOne> and do take a look and notice the gigantic take off after 2013 ;)
<buzzmarshall> everyones more interested in monthy cash flow
<buzzmarshall> why sell a yearly stand alone version for say 1000 and then the next year expect customers to repeat
<emOne> exactly
<buzzmarshall> most won't they will wait till somethings needed before updating
<emOne> yep
<emOne> especially if you have spent 1000
<buzzmarshall> this monthly thing just gets them all on the hook
<emOne> lol yea
<emOne> with the montly thing people will end up paying 1000 usd
<emOne> even those that were pirating before
<emOne> but it is a win win imho
<emOne> when you stop using adobe you can cancel
<emOne> soo really I think it is quite fair
<buzzmarshall> from a hackers point its sometimes better as its easier to bypass things but sometimes this monthly model can be a real pain in the butt
<emOne> lol yea
<buzzmarshall> online sub checks have lead to some companies making their software authentication setups to be connected to the data centers
<emOne> it is harder to crack too
<emOne> brb 2 mins
<emOne> and updates can break your crack easily
<buzzmarshall> i didn't buy a particular peice of 3dprinter software because i had read tomany licenced users complaining because the software company was having issues with their servers which prevented the customers client software from running
<buzzmarshall> so after spending the money to buy it your kinda stuck when their servers are fudgin up
<emOne> that is also tru
<emOne> your software is only good as long as the servers stay up
<emOne> and even if the servers stay up
<emOne> your outdated software might lose support from the server/manufacturer
<emOne> and you are stuck with software that doesn't work anymore
<emOne> I can think of a few games that even that you bought outright would stop working on steam for example
<emOne> buzzmarshall:
<emOne> time for me to sleep
<emOne> It was nice chatting to you as always
<emOne> got to go
<emOne> see you aroung
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<jonzen> trying to install libreelec x86_64 on asus i7 laptop installation goes fine but when reboot goes right to bios setup screen have turmed off secure boot turned off efi always same can any1 shed a little light on this pls
<jonzen> even tried installing it to a usb stick
<jonzen> it gives error fluxbox depend failed
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<jonzen> heya abbenormal
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<anddam> howdy
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<emOne> hello people of the internt
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<{HD}> I wish the watch data was in a file instead of a database. I am going to update to a raspi4 and I think I am going to lose all my watched/unwatched information.
<mack-> Ever hear of restoring a backup, {HD} ? :-)
<{HD}> I read about the "full" backup which backs up the databases but it also backs up plugins and other things that I would not want to restore
<{HD}> mack-: if I do a full backup can I pick and choose what gets restored?
<mack-> even if you're switching architecture, you could just do the database without binary addons
<mack-> it depends on your backup method. Or you could choose what you backup and choose what gets restored
<{HD}> there is also an addon I just found in the backup docs of kodi called "watchedlist" I wil check that out too.
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<mack-> as long as you're not moving the paths of your video sources, the kodi database should keep your watched status
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<{HD}> I like the idea of having it in a simple file on the NFS because then if I ever install another kodi it could pull the same data. I found this: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kodinerds.net%2Findex.php%2FThread%2F36207-Release-NFO-Watchedstate-Updater%2F%3Fs%3D30b15909f33d339a1e6ccc5cba4a2bf711ffd1f2 but that looks pretty old and I don't know if it is still
<{HD}> maintained.
<{HD}> looks like newer posts in that thread make it seem like it doesn't work anymore.
<mack-> if you're already using nfo files, that might be something to look at. If you have a server on your network already, using MySQL for database sharing among multiple kodis on the network is well supported.
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<{HD}> mack-: I did read about sharing a mysql db but I don't have one up and running already. I guess I could spin up a jail in freenas to run a db. That seems harder for some reason then just storing watch data in a file.
<mack-> Watched statuses in a shared database are not client-specific, though.
<{HD}> mack-: yea, that would be good. That way if I watch 1/2 a movie upstairs I could watch the remainder downstairs...right?
<mack-> storing things in a file that could possibly be updated simultaneously by multiple clients is asking for trouble. That's one reason why databases exist.
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<mack-> correct.
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<{HD}> mack-: thats a good point. I guess I will read about the shared db again. If I could spin one up in a jail easily enought maybe I should just do that.
<{HD}> Can I push my existing db to the new 'global' db?
<mack-> it's been a while since I did it, but I *think* it copied by current db to mysql on first run. Maybe :)
<mack-> Someone with more recent memory might be able to chime in
<vpeter> emOne: Did you talk about censorship on CE forum?
<{HD}> "Don't create the MySQL databases on your server. Simply set up the MySQL server itself, as Kodi will create the specific databases by itself." so, maybe if I set it up from the device that already has a db it will migrate.
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<{HD}> https://kodi.wiki/view/MySQL/Setting_up_MySQL#FreeNAS_and_freeBSD this should be updated since freenas doesnt use jexec anymore. migratted to iocage a few versions ago
<emOne> vpeter: I got banned on CE yes
<emOne> for no apparent reason
<emOne> I was posting about some mediatek wifi drivers
<emOne> after that my posts got all removed and I received the ban hammer
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<{HD}> whats CE?
<emOne> a kodi build that focuses on amlogic devices
<emOne> in reality it is a LE clone
<emOne> vpeter: aren't you a dev?
<vpeter> emOne: Maybe you should look for censorship on le too :)
<vpeter> I'm just humble helper.
<emOne> vpeter: what do you mean about censorship on LE?
<emOne> O_o
<vpeter> If you don't see it it doesn't mean it is not there :-)
<mack-> and there's a difference between censorship and increase signal-to-noise ratio :)
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<emOne> are you trying to say something?
<emOne> mack-: so you agree with the stance of LE?
* emOne yawns
<mack-> I neither agree nor disagree with stances I know nothing about.
<mack-> I was just commenting many think they're being censored when they're just getting things deleted or being uninvited to the party.
<emOne> vpeter mentioned censorship. You might want to ask him.
<emOne> I never talked about "censorship in LE" ;)
<mack-> and my comment was addressed to no one person
<emOne> Does anyone of you know how to repack an image for amlogic and android 9?
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<emOne> I will assume that people here have no idea about that in here
<vpeter> emOne: You pointed out to CE how bad they are and I pointed out back to LE which are the same :)
<emOne> fair enough
<emOne> vpeter: I know you were actually helping me test using the .ko file in a 64 bit CE built
<emOne> that post got deleted
<emOne> and I was banned
<emOne> you probably know more about it than me
<emOne> and thanks for testing that wifi .ko for me
<emOne> it is a mystery as to why I got banned and the posts got deleted
<emOne> but whatever :)
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<emOne> vpeter: I don't know if you remember that
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<xmixahlx> any chance kwiboo is in here? wanting to chat about rk3399 / hantro development
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