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<JyZyXEL> why don't x265 videos open on libreelec?
<oblikoamorale> but they do. if you're having problems that's probably a platform or videofile specific
<JyZyXEL> rpi4 and i tried with 3 different x265 videos so far without any response
<lrusak> post a kodi debug log
<JyZyXEL> where is it?
<oblikoamorale> ~/.kodi/temp/kodi.log , but enable debug logging first in settings.
<JyZyXEL> ah yes im noticing now a Permission Denied
<oblikoamorale> crisis averted
<JyZyXEL> not used to accessing my videos over SMB guest account so hadn't paid attention to the Other unix user rights
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<JyZyXEL> this is what the "openweathermap extended" addon gives me: https://paste.debian.net/1131023/
<mack-> I have no knowledge of that addon, but "lat = float(eval(locationdeg)[0])/File "<string>", line 0/SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing" seems like your location isn't set, assuming the addon is working correctly.
<mack-> on my first google returns, I first found step 1 was to get your own API Key. Did you do that? Second thing I found is the addon is deprecated for over a year and to use a different addon.
<mack-> All found from official documentation of addon.
<JyZyXEL> mack-: i got the key, set it and set the locations
<mack-> from the docs, if the API key is recent, the addon is of limited use.
<mack-> hence why the addon is not recommended
<JyZyXEL> oh, are any of the weather addons recommended?
<JyZyXEL> plus i really want to get rid of one more main menu item to make it not scroll.. so might as well be the Weather :P
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<emOne_> hello all :)
<emOne_> buzzmarshall: any idea how to repack android 9 images?
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<buzzmarshall> hey you... was over on another machine and didnt see you come in
<emOne_> buzzmarshall: no worries
<emOne_> buzzmarshall: I still haven't found a tool for unpacking and repacking android 9 images on amlogic
<emOne_> it can be done though as there are images floating about
<emOne_> I have asked in a couple of places but people are keeping it a secret or something
<emOne_> very strange
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<buzzmarshall> lol... probably dealer types trying to protect their knowledge base
<buzzmarshall> hm... what version of Android comes on a S922 box or the newest S905x3?
<buzzmarshall> i know theres all the revisions of Amlogics Customization tool floating around but some others had told me the newest one still hadn't been leaked
<buzzmarshall> so im not sure what Android version that would be applicable to
<buzzmarshall> what is it your trying to do?
<emOne_> android 9
<emOne_> amlogics customization tool only works with android 8
<buzzmarshall> normally if your just trying to mess with the intro graphics you should be able to under Android or using ssh go into the box and dump a couple of the partitions which then can be broke apart into their various pieces
<buzzmarshall> k
<buzzmarshall> one of the bin files that get broken out of the group contains all the graphic images in binary form
<emOne_> cool
<buzzmarshall> from there you can pick the binary images and alter them
<emOne_> sounds a bit risky
<emOne_> I would prefer to unpack an repack the image
<buzzmarshall> and then manually using a hexeditor reassemble the main binary bin
<emOne_> yea...
<emOne_> I am not going to manually do it with a hex editor .. I might brick my box there
<buzzmarshall> if your not really into messing with hexeditor and checksumming stuff its probably not worth the risk
<buzzmarshall> ive never bricked abox over that but its easy to mess up your graphics
<buzzmarshall> haha
<emOne_> I know that there must be a tool that can repack
<buzzmarshall> not only that but the graphics are stored in a not so norm rgb mode
<emOne_> because some groups are making android 9 images for amlogic
<buzzmarshall> ya theres a few kicking around
<emOne_> there is a viatnamese guy that makes images
<emOne_> I am not a master of his language lol
<buzzmarshall> usually its the small dealers trying to become unigue and being they don't buy enough oem from the factory they need to get someone to do
<buzzmarshall> stane1983 i think used to have some stuff up on his site about how to manually do some of it
<buzzmarshall> not sure if his stuff is still up anymore
<emOne_> this might be somthing
<buzzmarshall> ya that could be
<buzzmarshall> normally i don't both much with that site as its to phone oriented for where i am at these days
<buzzmarshall> but thers lots of good ideas over there that you can adapt
<emOne_> at least it doesn't use windows
<buzzmarshall> way to many social divi's for my liking
<emOne_> what site do you personally prefer?
<buzzmarshall> sorry diva's
<emOne_> sorry divas?
<emOne_> that is a site? :P
<buzzmarshall> personally i don't really bother to much with any for any extended periods of time
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> i spend most of my time researching mostly in the patent offices
<emOne_> I have checked out many sites FreakTab , ATVexperience, xda, ... honestly anything
<emOne_> yes I remember
<emOne_> anything interesting that you found lately?
<buzzmarshall> that and most manufactures are not very secure so theres usually what i want within reach if you know your way around
<buzzmarshall> ft used to be a real good place and still some good peeps there
<buzzmarshall> its just become overrun with freebies and rating of devices
<buzzmarshall> way to much bias but still it serves a good market for people wanting to play
<buzzmarshall> Le and ce are about the only place i keep running in the background and watching
<emOne_> freebies and rating of devices? what does that mean?
<buzzmarshall> now tho its mostly just LE and i sit here in irc just because i am watching the panfrost and lima developments
<emOne_> nice
<emOne_> freebies and rating of devices? what does that mean?
<buzzmarshall> FT seems to be more about reviewing new devices
<buzzmarshall> so they get all the gratis stuff sent to them and a handful of guys seem to be the guro's over there as they steer the herd to what to buy
<emOne_> ehh I get it
<buzzmarshall> if your into Andriod its still not a bad place to kinda keep up on
<emOne_> yes it is not too ba
<buzzmarshall> outta about 15 boxes ive got on my bench at any given time not one has Android on it
<buzzmarshall> lol
<emOne_> the dev and modding scene used to be better :/
<emOne_> lol yea I understand that
<buzzmarshall> true
<emOne_> android really isn't fun
<buzzmarshall> the way i look at it is your either a doer or a follower
<emOne_> honeslty the only nice thing is dalvik probably
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> doer's usually don't have enough time to do while still maintaining a normal job
<buzzmarshall> followers just hang on a site for days unended telling everyone what to do
<buzzmarshall> how they ever figured they learned anything with 90% yapping and 10% learning is beyond me
<emOne_> that doesn't even sound like a follower
<emOne_> followers don't know what to tell others what to do
<emOne_> followers are users
<buzzmarshall> some of the smartest and most advanced in the scene people would never reckognize as they have no social footprint because they are all busy working on stuff
<buzzmarshall> so they tend to hang privately amongst similar types
<emOne_> in the good old days you would recognize their handle at least
<emOne_> not so much anymore
<buzzmarshall> ya for sure but social these days seems to be the bar a lot of hobbiest types set for them selves
<buzzmarshall> usually some of the more social types will have some type of in with others in the background that like to help but don't want the time loss by doing alot of posting
<buzzmarshall> so they feed someone else thats more social
<buzzmarshall> FT used to be alot like that way back which was good
<buzzmarshall> then people started moving on and going in different directions
<buzzmarshall> like most things people just have different interests and in some cases big heads that usually leads to useless crap
<buzzmarshall> LE i try and monitor over all of its forks mostly because its the closest thats connected to the kodi guys
<buzzmarshall> and kodi's really the app thats driving this market in the 1st place
<emOne_> yes
<emOne_> Kodi is still the original
<emOne_> no matter what distro it is running on
<buzzmarshall> very rarely do i go to the Kodi forums as its another bad social place at times
<emOne_> LE and the likes are distros which is a super important thing ofc
<buzzmarshall> i get it tho as they gotta put up with a lot of dumb people and flack
<emOne_> ehh, most community coding teams have become toxic imho
<buzzmarshall> in some cases ya it just kinda happens
<emOne_> I hate to say it , but ppl coding even for windows are cooler these days :(
<buzzmarshall> dealing with the public can be such a hassle and if your just the average coder type trying to help out sometimes the public can be pretty cruel
<emOne_> ya
<buzzmarshall> personally thats why i don't bother anymore
<emOne_> yea
<emOne_> especially if you want something good for the community and you are a nice person
<buzzmarshall> i'd like to help but then you get the flack of allways trying to defend yourself which is a pain
<emOne_> people falsely mistake that as a weakness or something
<emOne_> honestly
<buzzmarshall> for sure
<emOne_> but whatever,, if people whine there is nothing anyone can do
<emOne_> (pessimistic me speaking )
<buzzmarshall> its like the whole which is better LE or one of the forks, which is such a stupid argument but there always seems to be someone around wanting to take up that cause
<buzzmarshall> they both got their place in my book
<buzzmarshall> at least at this point in time
<buzzmarshall> anyone wanting amlogic stuff right now is probably just better goin with one of the forks for now
<buzzmarshall> but that will change eventually assuming the upword migration eventually succedes
<buzzmarshall> then all the forks will come and pilver LE's now superior sources and the playing field will once again level out
<emOne_> yea
<emOne_> are the distros and forks really all that different?
<emOne_> or is it just kodi running ontop of a "JeOS"
<emOne_> ?
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<emOne_> buzzmarshall: I know that LE and co use a framebuffer
<buzzmarshall> im hoping to try and help fix some of the Amlogic stuff on LE's master as im working on regressing the kernel backdown to maybe 4.19 so i can put leai back in
<buzzmarshall> matrix works not bad but has alot of issues still with python3 i am finding
<emOne_> :(
<emOne_> I have seen many people making python 3 porting errors
<emOne_> with old apps especially
<emOne_> I had to manually fix some stugg
<emOne_> dtuff
<buzzmarshall> basically all of the oe forks are just a superset of busybox kinda running a small linux footprint
<buzzmarshall> so kodi's setup as the main running app
<buzzmarshall> right now i am working on embedding a terminal emulator into LE's control panel
<buzzmarshall> im gettin sick of ssh'n into a box to see what i want to see
<buzzmarshall> lol
<emOne_> I heard that it doesn't use x11 or whatever but rather runs from the framebuffer
<emOne_> heh lol
<emOne_> that is cool though
<emOne_> reminds me of the dreambox web interface
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<buzzmarshall> its to bad Arm just don't want to support x11 or things would be simpler
<buzzmarshall> at least not under the mali's anymore or so they say
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<buzzmarshall> somedays i just wish someone would come out with something other then the typical soc with arms crappy gpu built into the die
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<buzzmarshall> i got someone bringing me firestick this weekend so i can see if bust open its boot loader
<emOne_> ooh awesome I like those
<emOne_> the nividia shield also doesn't look all that bad
<buzzmarshall> i know theres a number of side load methods but i want to see if i can find another way
<emOne_> I think armbian runs ontop of x11
<emOne_> if I am not mistaken
<emOne_> but I could well be
<buzzmarshall> i had a shield when they came out but nvidia not somethine i want to mess with when it comes to reversing stuff
<buzzmarshall> their pockets are way to deep
<buzzmarshall> firesticks are mediatek
<emOne_> the shields are locked
<emOne_> there are some old versions of linux for some old shields
<emOne_> but that is it
<buzzmarshall> and because of my recent hunt for the wifi stuff i came across some good info on mediatels soc's
<emOne_> which is a shame because they are nice devices
<emOne_> someone found an exploit for unlocking the bootloader though on the tegra chips
<emOne_> which is cool
<buzzmarshall> sheilds can be unlocked just not something i ever though worked its way out into the open
<emOne_> buzzmarshall: awesome buzz!
<emOne_> there is even a hack for the switch I believe
<emOne_> also tegra based
<buzzmarshall> for someone thats got the money to spend and just wants a plug and go setup the sheilds are not a bad way to go
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<buzzmarshall> here in Ca by the time you get all the extras you want tho it prices out to high
<buzzmarshall> be better off building a small puter
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<emOne_> unfortunately the shields are android only
<emOne_> which sucks big time
<buzzmarshall> since the shield tho with the advent of the smaller sbcs like the n2's or rockpro64 its hard to justify buying a sheild if your the hacker type
<emOne_> they were the first to have full bandwidth usb 3 too
<emOne_> for sure
<emOne_> it took some time but the SBCs got there in the end
<buzzmarshall> i no a couple that had linux up and running on the sheild but there was alot to the hack at a hardware level that needed to be done
<emOne_> I remember some sbcs did have usb3 before the shield but they were not capable of running at full bandwidth
<emOne_> there were some bottle necks
<emOne_> yea.. there was a post about someone getting the basics to work on a shield
<buzzmarshall> almost like the old modchips with another bios and some bus snooping to make it work
<emOne_> but it was abondended
<emOne_> woah
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> your right tho it wasnt feasible from a cost point
<emOne_> i think nvidia released an official linux4tegra OS
<buzzmarshall> it was more of a proof of concept idea
<emOne_> geez ,, so many fcker,, sorry for french
<emOne_> fckers
<emOne_> I have asked in so many places about repacking amlogic android 9 images
<emOne_> and no one is speaking lol
<buzzmarshall> i quess if someone made up with a fpga or cpld and a small board and it was cheap enough maybe it would take off
<emOne_> some of them know for sure
<buzzmarshall> i just don't think nvidia would stand still to long over that
<buzzmarshall> lol
<emOne_> yea
<emOne_> LETS SHORT THE MARKETS
<buzzmarshall> ya i don't get why no one really wants to talk about that as i wouldnt think it was that big of secret that people need to try and protect it
<emOne_> lol yep
<emOne_> or maybe people don't really care
<emOne_> who knows
<emOne_> LETS SHORT THE MARKETS
<emOne_> :D
<buzzmarshall> i would think it would be similar to the older android methods but maybe i am wrong and android has changed
<emOne_> I am going to look into the source of the available tools
<buzzmarshall> a real nagra ca would be a good way to shake up the markets
<emOne_> I would imagine that there have just been some small structural changes in the file systems
<buzzmarshall> but then we'd all be hiding out in hongkong
<buzzmarshall> lol
<emOne_> nagravision for internet tv?
<emOne_> or for netflix?
<emOne_> I don't think it would make a difference tbh
<emOne_> at all
<emOne_> because in the end people can just share the nagra keys over the internet
<buzzmarshall> currently thats not there yet but supposedly some uk providers have contracted nagra to secure some things
<buzzmarshall> i was referring to dvb on these boxes
<emOne_> I honestly doubt it will wrok
<emOne_> ahh ok
<emOne_> well .. I mean all of those dvb encryption systems have been "broken"
<buzzmarshall> making a dvb box talk the nagra talk is easy
<buzzmarshall> just need a external card reader which is really easy
<buzzmarshall> after that its just a matter of emulating the proper functions for the emm's and ecm's
<emOne_> are you talking about a softcam?
<buzzmarshall> over the years not much has changed
<emOne_> I never understood why manufacturers required you to buy a compatible box ,, they should have just made binary softcams for anyone to use imho
<emOne_> or a compatible cam module
<emOne_> especially for Europe
<emOne_> you have so many different providers here
<emOne_> many satellite and cable providers
<emOne_> I guess it is a licensing thing
<buzzmarshall> softcam is ok for most of the european providers that are open to the idea of legal cam usages
<emOne_> because if you live in the UK you are not supposed to watch spanish tv
<emOne_> buzzmarshall: softcams were never a thing here
<emOne_> at least not officially
<buzzmarshall> so most of them use some type of card condome that plugs into the turner
<emOne_> btw, with all these european sat providers you can always switch the language to english ,, it doesn't matter if you are watching spanish, french or polish tv
<emOne_> which is pretty cool
<emOne_> yep
<buzzmarshall> its like a pcmcia adapter that plugs into the tuner to adapt the system to the services available where ever you are
<buzzmarshall> here in NA none of that was ever used
<emOne_> they all had official hardware cams... which is a bit pointless if you want to have multiple providers
<emOne_> it makes you spend more money
<buzzmarshall> they used a locked cam to the matching ird
<emOne_> wheres you could just get a softcam
<emOne_> oh wow
<emOne_> that is scummy
<buzzmarshall> the idea for the european stuff was basically so if you were to buy a tuner or ird in say germany but then moved to france
<buzzmarshall> you could keep the tuner and just go get the matching cam and interface from the french provider and plug it into the ird
<emOne_> yea
<emOne_> but why pay extra
<buzzmarshall> so your not having to by a new tuner just because you moved
<emOne_> they should have just made softcams available
<emOne_> yes but you still need to buy a cam module
<buzzmarshall> problem with softcams in alot of cases it cant handle the bandwidth
<emOne_> really?
<emOne_> I didn't know that
<buzzmarshall> it kinda depends on the service involved and how fast they throw the management packets downstream
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> channel packets are low bandwidth
<buzzmarshall> most softcam if you understand how to do the crypto can keep the channel open
<emOne_> isn't the crypto handled by the receiver and not the cam?
<buzzmarshall> but the management packets because of all the hacks over the years have so many outer wrappers around it that it takes alot more time to process
<emOne_> isn't the cam just there to pass on those ecm/emms?
<buzzmarshall> nope
<emOne_> I mean ofc the crypto is "handled" by the cam
<buzzmarshall> the card is nothing more then a key generator that contains the customers profile
<emOne_> yes
<emOne_> the generated key
<emOne_> isn't the generated key passed on by the cam to the tuner?
<buzzmarshall> so the tuner will ask the card to give it the control or channel keys for whatever channel your trying to watch
<emOne_> to unscramble the image?
<emOne_> so what actually does the unscrambling with all the right info?
<buzzmarshall> depending on the customers profile or tier structure the cam will decide whether or not to respond
<emOne_> and what happens once it responds?
<buzzmarshall> the downstream itself is broken into transport packets
<emOne_> .ts I remember those
<buzzmarshall> they have mulitple wrappers around the packet
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> end the end tho you end up with the tuner asking the card for the channel keys for that stream
<emOne_> and the tuner decodes surely?
<buzzmarshall> so the card if evertything is right will produce the keys and let the channel display
<emOne_> not the piece of metal cam ?
<emOne_> yes, but what actually unscrambles the image?
<emOne_> the tuner gets the keys from card+cam no?
<buzzmarshall> with crap like card sharing thats how you can tell how well its working
<buzzmarshall> if the channel your watching starts to pixelate
<buzzmarshall> it means that tuners not getting the channel or control keys in time and the data sitting in the tuners buffer is expiring
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> basically the tuner will break apart the data for the channel your trying to watch
<emOne_> why is it that it is not getting it in time?
<buzzmarshall> all the other downstream crap for other channels and that will just get pitched by the tuner
<emOne_> network latency?
<emOne_> or just bad softcam coding?
<buzzmarshall> ya thast the easiest way for the providers to mess with card sharing
<emOne_> or fast update rates?
<buzzmarshall> they just need to make the return packets from the network to frag
<buzzmarshall> that will stall out the tuner
<emOne_> sky uk and sky italia always pixelated first
<emOne_> those used nds
<buzzmarshall> its either that or they can just speed up the recyle rate of the stream
<emOne_> sky germany used nagra and would never pixelate
<emOne_> ahh clever
<buzzmarshall> the dvb spec actually contains all of the specs and no big secret
<emOne_> yea
<emOne_> it is all pretty old stuff nowadays
<buzzmarshall> so being nagra is just a conditional access system its comliant as well
<emOne_> but still pretty interesting
<emOne_> did you develop the nagra crypto? :P
<buzzmarshall> ya not many talk about it these days as its to risky
<buzzmarshall> ive known it all along
<buzzmarshall> nothings ever changed since they forced it down
<emOne_> I am surprised that nagra channels never sped up the recycle rates
<buzzmarshall> maybe put another wrapper around things but its like a onion if you know how to peel it
<emOne_> those days were pretty cool with all hackers releasing their hacks into the wild
<emOne_> the groups were all mysterious
<emOne_> I always wondered who those people actually were as they always appeared out of nowhere
<buzzmarshall> i think the speeding up thing is more to do with the maintainance and running of a stable system
<emOne_> ahh
<buzzmarshall> so if they were to crank things up it could introduce a ton of other issues
<emOne_> maybe it also gave problems and troubles to legit customers with older hardware
<emOne_> is that what you mean?
<buzzmarshall> but the spec actually allows for like every 20 seconds or so
<buzzmarshall> but the last time i looked the recylce rate was more like once every 60-90 secs
<buzzmarshall> yea
<emOne_> whatever nds was doing it was working quite well regarding pixelating
<buzzmarshall> speedin up the channel keys is probably easy
<emOne_> yes
<buzzmarshall> but the emm's or management packets take much more time to process
<emOne_> i don't think it was only that sky uk (nds) was speeding up the keys
<emOne_> aahh ok
<buzzmarshall> so speeding things up may interfer with things like adding tiers to a customers card or doing a setup
<emOne_> I see where you are going with this
<emOne_> yea
<buzzmarshall> basically channel keys are smaller packets and once you get down to brass tacks nothing more then des cryto'd
<emOne_> could it also mess around with a customers pay per view ?
<buzzmarshall> emms or management packets are bigger and with multiple crypto on the outer wrappers
<emOne_> ok
<emOne_> emms are for things like tiers and ppc?
<emOne_> ppv*
<buzzmarshall> charges like ppv are just stored charges on the card
<buzzmarshall> so thats why they want a phone line in the tuner
<emOne_> some countries didn't use a phone line for the ppv
<emOne_> sky uk did
<buzzmarshall> they send a packet downstream that will tell the card to call home via the tuner and clear its charges
<emOne_> sky germany for instance didn't use a phone line for ppv
<emOne_> you had to manually call
<emOne_> and they would charge your account
<emOne_> but the ppv would be activated through ecm or emm I guess
<buzzmarshall> satelites a downstream only link here in NA so theres no other way to clear the cam
<emOne_> can it not be done remotely?
<buzzmarshall> brb... wanna grab my supper
<emOne_> I am going to run
<buzzmarshall> k... till the next time
<emOne_> but wait
<emOne_> BUT WAIT :D
<buzzmarshall> take care...
<emOne_> WAIT
<emOne_> 1 more question
<emOne_> PLEASE
<buzzmarshall> go ahead
<emOne_> can't a cam be cleared remotely with no uplink?
<emOne_> they could send a signal to all
<emOne_> once the signal stream reads FOR BUZZMARSHALL: your cam knows that it is for you
<emOne_> isn't that how EMM worked?
<buzzmarshall> well at some point they need to see the stored charge on the card so it somehow needs to relay that to the customer service people
<emOne_> ahhh ok that makes sense
<buzzmarshall> so its either done thru the ird and a connected phone
<emOne_> got it got it
<buzzmarshall> or having to put the card into some type of terminal to be dumped
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<emOne_> yea
<emOne_> enjoy supper
<emOne_> bon apettite
<buzzmarshall> have fun...
<buzzmarshall> :)
<emOne_> ty
<emOne_> talk to you soon
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<xmixahlx> can anyone with knowledge of rockpro64 libreelec comment on the experience?
<xmixahlx> i.e. is anything not working
<xmixahlx> and what is status of hwaccel?
<xmixahlx> i am testing the libreelec patches against the manjaro kernel for pinebook pro
<xmixahlx> mpeg2video is working, but vp8 and libx264 have errors
<xmixahlx> i'm also considering getting a rockpro64 for libreelec - the rockpro64 is basically the soc package for the pinebook pro
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