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<aphirst>
i'm not sure whether I understand the v10 situation correctly, regarding S905 boards
<aphirst>
i'm getting mixed messages from libreelec and (the unrelated) coreelec, and from a few different forums
<aphirst>
coreelec seem to be (at least for now) dropping support for S905 boards (including the odroid-c2) whereas libreelec seem to (again, at least for now) still be trying to make things work
<aphirst>
i'm sure i saw chewitt 's name on forum posts
<chewitt>
CE are bound/stuck with the BSP kernels that Amlogic releases
<aphirst>
Ah! That would explain the discrepancy
<chewitt>
each time they do a major kernel bump to add something new, usually something old is dropped
<aphirst>
(board support p-something, right?)
<chewitt>
it's a rolling hackfest
<chewitt>
GXBB has been "unsupported" by Amlogic for ages already
<aphirst>
that's the name of the graphics component, right?
<chewitt>
nope, GXBB = S905
<chewitt>
GXL = S905X/D/L/W/Z
<aphirst>
evidently i've gotten myself confused with the acronyms
<chewitt>
GXM = S912
<chewitt>
I don't track the Amlogic kernels at all, but from chat with CE devs the latest kernel bump they're trying to use borks things a bit
<chewitt>
for S905
<chewitt>
hence the discontinued state
<aphirst>
all this means for me is that i'm uncertain whether to hope for CE/LE support of my odroid-c2 or whether to drop the cash for another rpi4 or odroid-c4 or similar
<chewitt>
LE is still trying to push forwards with mainline kernel support
<chewitt>
the core OS is in great shape
<chewitt>
the achilles heel is/are the media bits .. sadly
<aphirst>
kinda important those
<chewitt>
from one perspective S905 is the best-supported device
<chewitt>
as it has lowest overall media spec so there is less stuff not working :)
<aphirst>
funnily enough the odroid-c2 was the first bit of kit i bought that could do HEVC hardware decoding
<aphirst>
like, ever; it'd be a bit of a shame though if I had to decomission it
<chewitt>
HEVC is one of the missing things
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<aphirst>
a lot of my library is now in HEVC so that matters to me :P
<chewitt>
the later devices, S905X2 and up, have enough CPU grunt to s/w decode anything at 1080p
<chewitt>
forget 4K tho
<aphirst>
the odroid-c4 is supported by librelec though right?
<chewitt>
C4/HC4 work fine
<aphirst>
hummm
<chewitt>
with s/w decode
<aphirst>
oh, not hardware decode?
<aphirst>
is that caught up in the same set of problems
<chewitt>
H264 with the right patches is borderline usable .. I was running a WeTek Play2 for a couple of weeks about a month back
<chewitt>
the vdec is unfinshed
<aphirst>
from how this sounds, i'm going to be much better off just getting another rpi4, aren't I
<chewitt>
the guy who started it had to stop with medical issues, and has been radio silent since last March
<aphirst>
that's awfully unfortunate
<chewitt>
so no real-world progress on it since Dec 2019
<aphirst>
i hope they're OK
<chewitt>
nobody knows .. when I mean radio-silent i'm not exagerating
<aphirst>
:/
<chewitt>
RPi4 is shaping up rather nicely
<aphirst>
yeah this seems pretty decisive
<aphirst>
another rpi4 it is
<chewitt>
LE10 won't be perfect .. there's still some HDR plumbing and 10/12 bit support to do
<chewitt>
but that's about it now
<chewitt>
prob some bugs and users will unearth shitty encodings that need tweakage .. but that's all normal