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<xD_> guys i installed latest version, bugs still there :/
<xD_> when will it be fixed?
<lrusak> when you fix them :)
<xD_> 9.95.1
<xD_> they are old
<xD_> probably not in your branch?
<lrusak> All those PR's are included in the latest beta
<xD_> okay
<xD_> so not in stable?
<xD_> how do i get beta upgrade?
<lrusak> you use the upgrade file and update
<lrusak> read the docs
<xD_> ah so no secret menu to do it i guess
<xD_> so 9.95.1 is not beta?
<xD_> it says Kodi 19 Matrix
<xD_> download page says 9.95.1 = 10.0 Beta
<xD_> i got that installed
<xD_> bugs still there :)
<xD_> i mean 15yrs font override not working :P
<xD_> no one cares
<xD_> i guess i switch back to arch and mpv
<lrusak> I guess not :)
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<lrusak> looks like the issue is fixed to me :)
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<xD_> yeah :)
<xD_> mpv > all
<xD_> :P
<lrusak> then why try and use kodi?
<xD_> i got a remote
<xD_> but going to switch it with keyboard now since i know kodi is abonding my ideas
<xD_> mpv.conf -> sub-ass-styles="./font_override.ass"
<xD_> fixing all for me
<xD_> atm
<lrusak> did you report the issue?
<xD_> about override not working long ago
<xD_> but even if it does it is replacing all styles
<xD_> so stupid solution
<lrusak> so why not work together to fix it?
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<xD_> i cant code kodi :)
<xD_> and i heard the devs are leaving
<xD_> so probably no one with time
<xD_> at least mpv is managed by anime fans
<lrusak> sounds like a good solution
<xD_> hehe
<xD_> well i can tell you know kodi needs --sub-ass-styles=<filename> from mpv
<xD_> all other solutions are bad :/
<lrusak> what does that even mean
<xD_> you define your own styles for the mkv
<xD_> Style: Main,Open Sans Semibold,81,&H00FFFFFF,&H000000FF,&H00020713,&H00000000,-1,0,0,0,100,100,0,0,1,3.8,0,2,30,30,63,1
<xD_> like this
<xD_> if it finds "Main" style it is replacing it by this
<xD_> or any other name used
<xD_> like Italics
<xD_> or Top
<lrusak> yikes
<xD_> i did write a script to remux files but thats stupid on the long run
<xD_> so i would appreciate a feature like that one day
<lrusak> why do you need a custom style per file?
<xD_> copy style file enjoy proper fonts/size :P
<xD_> lrusak: for example crunchyroll is using like 20+
<xD_> it can be globally
<xD_> you just have to know all style names
<xD_> and define proper settings
<xD_> line by line in the file :)
<lrusak> that's so dumb
<xD_> why?
<lrusak> set a single style you like -> watch video
<lrusak> setting a style per file sounds like a nightmare
<xD_> example from crunchy
<xD_> not per file
<xD_> it is a template used for all mkv
<xD_> so you define it once for all mkvs
<xD_> you are going to play
<xD_> for "Default" "Main" "Flashback" etc.
<xD_> thats how mpv is fixing it for me atm
<xD_> so worst case is a template with ~20 lines of Style names
<xD_> and you are good to go for crunchy
<xD_> :P
<lrusak> So you still have to select a style from that template?
<xD_> i dont have
<xD_> you have to create that file once yeah
<xD_> set your styles
<xD_> in .ssa/.ass format
<xD_> its just the section styles ...
<lrusak> what is a section style
<xD_> you will find the same format in modern mkv :)
<xD_> or web
<xD_> no .srt
<xD_> Load all SSA/ASS styles found in the specified file and use them for rendering text subtitles. The syntax of the file is exactly like the [V4 Styles] / [V4+ Styles] section of SSA/ASS.
<lrusak> I’m so glad I don’t watch stuff that needs subs
<xD_> you get used to it
<xD_> i have doing subs for 20yrs
<lrusak> Anime seems to constantly cause problems for video standards
<xD_> it invented most
<xD_> standardized the video formats
<xD_> :)
<xD_> if you believe it or not
<xD_> early doom9
<lrusak> They also try and use 4:4:4 chroma recently which is stupid, and hi10p was stupid
<xD_> it is fine
<xD_> if you dont understand it bad
<xD_> 4:4:4 chroma is fine for low res
<xD_> if you go from 1080p to 720p
<xD_> hi10p increased compression
<xD_> also no banding
<lrusak> Not if your hw decoder doesn’t support it
<lrusak> It’s dumb, just use normal formats
<xD_> well cpus are there :)
<xD_> or cuda
<lrusak> Not on an rpi
<xD_> yeah dont use pi :)
<lrusak> Yea don’t use shitty formats
<xD_> it is good
<lrusak> No
<xD_> even my phone can play 10bit now
<xD_> so just a matter of time
<xD_> until the arm cores can do it :)
<lrusak> 10 bit is fine
<xD_> hevc standard
<lrusak> 10bit 4:4:4 is stupid
<xD_> depends if you want best quality it is good
<xD_> 4:2:0 -> 1/4 of your res is chroma
<xD_> if you put that full 1/4 into 720p
<xD_> so why not
<lrusak> You have no idea :)
<xD_> i do :)
<xD_> why wouldnt it be possible to play it?
<lrusak> Depends if a hw decoder supports it
<xD_> 4:4:4 is just higher levels of the standard
<lrusak> Most won’t
<xD_> no one needs hw decoder for 1080p or 720p these days
<xD_> maybe 4k
<lrusak> And I don’t want to use an i7 to watch some shitty anime
<xD_> well 4:4:4 is rare
<xD_> only on bd rips
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<xD_> if you can afford media player you go for big x86
<xD_> a pi is too much incompatible
<xD_> like you said
<xD_> even if the mkv is slightly deviating it cant use hw decode
<xD_> thats why you got gpus :)
<xD_> they accelerate those well
<xD_> like gpus in smartphone
<xD_> if pi doesnt have it
<xD_> dont buy pi
<xD_> i heard the GPU core is closed source
<xD_> so you need their drivers ...
<xD_> well done rpi
<lrusak> What about android?
<xD_> no probs there
<lrusak> Wrong
<xD_> i played my first 10bit in 2009 with mx player
<xD_> or so
<xD_> long ago
<xD_> it does utilize the gpu
<xD_> in your phone
<xD_> and trust me if your core is supported you can play all res without issues
<xD_> i watched 4k movie @ plane with HEVC
<lrusak> lol
<xD_> no speed issues :)
<xD_> x265 encode
<lrusak> I’m not sure what your point is?
<lrusak> Because 10 is bigger than 8 so it must be better?
<xD_> just saying 10bit HDR HEVC no issues if you use proper player
<xD_> on your "slow" arm phone
<lrusak> Rpi4 supports hevc 10bit just fine
<xD_> yeah whatever
<xD_> i got a small pc :)
<xD_> no SoC
<lrusak> So why is 10 bit better than 8?
<xD_> banding
<xD_> you see it if you only use 256 steps
<xD_> with 10bit you can blur more
<xD_> good example
<xD_> ofc it is exaggerated since your panel is probably also 8bit
<xD_> but at video compression you see it even more
<lrusak> So is it still better if your display or video pipeline only supports 8bit?
<xD_> yes
<xD_> my tv is 10bit so
<xD_> most tvs with HDR are
<lrusak> But are you sure you are actually getting 10bit output?
<lrusak> From your pc?
<xD_> i set it to UHD colors
<xD_> not with kodi
<xD_> old kernel
<xD_> no hdr support
<lrusak> That’s not what I asked
<xD_> i havent checked
<xD_> i know HDR is beta @ kernel
<lrusak> Are you sure your graphics drivers are outputting 10bit?
<xD_> for anime i dont care atm
<xD_> it is only worth for UHD movies with good HDR :)
<xD_> but those i can play over thumb drive
<xD_> with 10bit
<lrusak> So why do you care about hi10p or hevc 4:4:4 if your pc doesn’t even output 10bit properly?
<lrusak> See the problem?
<xD_> because it removes banding
<xD_> and chroma is better
<xD_> your screen is RGB
<xD_> full colors
<xD_> chroma subsampling is removing details
<xD_> you should know how it works
<xD_> how video compression and your eyes are working
<xD_> if you dont pls dont start topic
<lrusak> Lol you still don’t get the point
<lrusak> But anime gods know all I guess
<xD_> see the issue?
<xD_> red + blue
<xD_> if you do 4:4:4 you wont have that
<xD_> you could actually read it
<lrusak> I know why
<lrusak> But if you can’t display it is it actually useful?
<xD_> so why complain about a good solution :)
<xD_> you can
<xD_> even 8bit/4:4:4 is good
<xD_> anyway wrong topic :)
<xD_> i am here because of subs
<lrusak> Think of all the poor souls “omg my anime is 4:4:4 hevc main 10 it looks so good watching it on my shitty phone using 200% cpu usage omg yolo bbq”
<xD_> lol
<xD_> if you can why not
<xD_> 8 cores 200% is nothin
<xD_> xD
<xD_> remember you get 720p
<xD_> less usage
<xD_> less pixels
<xD_> but same details as 1080p regarding colors
<lrusak> Lol
<lrusak> You must be high
<xD_> not really i part and install mpv now
<xD_> i see where this is leading
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<lrusak> Please do
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<SpeakerToMeat> Hello all
<SpeakerToMeat> New user of libreelec, on a Rpi3
<SpeakerToMeat> Question, I'm gonna hook a fan with a npn transitor to my pi, and I want to turn it on when over X celcius, and off when under X celcius (probably 70 and 65 respectively).. is there any easier/saner way than using a crontabbed or daemonized script to poll /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp ? some existing mechanism that can trigger on values itself installed? like udev, acpi, etc?
<SpeakerToMeat> Also.. I see the Raspberry addons do not include the python RPi.GPIO library?
<lrusak> Do you actually need a fan though?
<SpeakerToMeat> I do
<lrusak> For what reason? Likely a small heat sink is all you really need
<lrusak> Unless you want to do it for academic purposes of course
<SpeakerToMeat> I have a small heat sink, and it's insufficient
<SpeakerToMeat> Many intensive operations cause a temp warning
<mack-> SpeakerToMeat: rpi.gpio was there last time I looked. make sure you path.append to the addon
<SpeakerToMeat> mack-, Thanks. I was digging and just found I need to append the path /storage/.kodi/addons/virtual.rpi-tools/lib to sys.path
<lrusak> I’ve never needed a fan when using LibreELEC
<SpeakerToMeat> I'm glad for you
<SpeakerToMeat> That surely makes you a better person than me.
<mack-> SpeakerToMeat: why so angry? lrusak was only pointing out in most usage cases a fan is not required. Either your environment is a sauna or you're pushing your Pi3.
<lrusak> I’m just saying that you should check what problem you are actually trying to solve :)
<SpeakerToMeat> My problem is my raspberry overheats.
<SpeakerToMeat> As it's in a warm, and enclosed environment.
<ukleinek> not sure, but maybe with the right stuff added to the dtb the kernel handles everything just fine without userspace support?!
<SpeakerToMeat> Onyl does so under intensive loads, like right now trying to sync a whole library from plex. Or sometimes when scanning a new directory/library... but I want to limit those overheats to lenghten the pi's lifetime
<lrusak> I mean it’s a $40 device?
<SpeakerToMeat> mack-, Sorry, it's just my experience that people who go "you don't want X" rather than "why do you want x?" tend to be griefers disguised as "helpers".
<lrusak> I’ve never had one die yet
<lrusak> I’m just trying to make your life easier :)
<SpeakerToMeat> lrusak, Ah thanks. if it dies should I contact you for a new one for free?
<SpeakerToMeat> mack-, Right not, I'm on the fence about him still....
<SpeakerToMeat> I mean, it does sound $40 is nothing to you. I'm so glad for it
<SpeakerToMeat> Any more ways you can think of to "help" me? So far the help is being inmensely helpful
<lrusak> And you are sure you won’t damage your pi with some janky wiring?
* mack- laughs
<SpeakerToMeat> mack-, thank you very much, That's a great jumpstart
<SpeakerToMeat> lrusak, there's always the possibility. Yes.
<SpeakerToMeat> I could just leave the fan always on, it's not a loud fan...
<SpeakerToMeat> Oh lribeelect uses systemd for init...
<SpeakerToMeat> nice. I though I'd check but hadn't yet
<SpeakerToMeat> thanks all
<lrusak> Often the simplest solution is the best one :)
<asdf28> the devices i have are always steaming hot
<asdf28> an s905 box and a banana pi
<asdf28> they both have no heatsink at all
<asdf28> you could grill a sausage on it to go with your movies
<asdf28> but apparently it doesn't matter
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<asdf28> i think you wouldn't be able to kill these devices by overheating even if you tried to
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<SpeakerToMeat> I set the fan on all the time, no transistors, no resistors, no code, no risk to the pi
<SpeakerToMeat> I have a question... but I think it's more of a kodi thing so probably not good here
<SpeakerToMeat> About PlexKodiConnect
* SpeakerToMeat stares at lrusak
<SpeakerToMeat> Ok, yes I knew I saw you here...
<lrusak> \o/
<SpeakerToMeat> The best way to edit the home menu order and/or add some stuff like a direct link to an add-on (youtube) if possible, is directly via the xml, right?
<lrusak> you won't be able to edit the estuary xml on LibreELEC
<lrusak> you could try using a skin that allows you to edit menu entries
<lrusak> or you could just add youtube as a favourite and it will show up in the favourites section of the main menu
<SpeakerToMeat> hmmm
<SpeakerToMeat> Ok
<SpeakerToMeat> Not sure I wanted to change the default skin but I might
<SpeakerToMeat> Why cant I edit the estuary xml in libreELEC?
<lrusak> read only filesystem
<SpeakerToMeat> And can't be overriden in a content dir file...
<SpeakerToMeat> Hmmm squashfs...
<SpeakerToMeat> I could go totally insane and grab the image and make a new one....
<lrusak> you could try copying the skin to writeable space, but then you won't see any updates for the skin
<SpeakerToMeat> or I could try an overlay....
<SpeakerToMeat> If the skin is on a squashfs ro fs how can it be updated?
<lrusak> by updating the OS
<SpeakerToMeat> Ok, so skin is updated not alone but as a block with the whole / image
<SpeakerToMeat> mhm
<lrusak> yes
<SpeakerToMeat> Interesting. thanks
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