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<libv>
yay. toys.
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<mnemoc>
libv: your camera arrived?
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<hero100>
what is the advantage of 1G/3G user/kernel split? I saw it in real time kernel
<libv>
yeah, and a hyundai a7
<libv>
and sd-cards
<libv>
and cycling underpants :p
<tomcheng86>
hi , any way to check the version of A20 chip ? it is covered by a heat sink, so i want a software way to do it
<mripard>
hero100: the advantage over what?
<hero100>
1G/3G user/kernel split over 3G/1G user/kernel split
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<mripard>
you can map more areas in the kernel, reducing the need for highmem
<mripard>
but you only have 1G of virtual memory for the applications
<mripard>
which is tight
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<hero100>
I want to use the cubieboard2 for real time control, 1G of virtual memory is not a big problem
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<libv>
i have done so many NDHs that it just takes a bit over an hour to do one.
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<libv>
well, 2h including full web dig and pics
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<libv>
hrm, we get very few new boards added to sunxi-boards
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<megal0maniac_afk>
Are there Windows drivers for FEL mode?
<mmarker>
Hmm. Is this the right place to discuss more enduser-ish issues with u-boot on sun4i boards?
<libv>
mmarker: just ask your question
<megal0maniac_afk>
Ah, PhoenixSuite has them
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<megal0maniac_afk>
Not that it helps. PhoenixSuite doesn't care about the fel device :/
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<mmarker>
Long story short: can't get an recent pull from u-boot/sunxi github to respect my settings in boot.scr and uEnv.txt. Also, haven't soldered in a serial cable yet, and wondering if there is a way to dump uboot output to text to view after the kernel boots.
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<libv>
mmarker: solder a serial cable first :) it saves you soo much pain later :)
<libv>
mmarker: what hardware is this?
<mmarker>
Its an offbrand mk802 1gb model. I know what I'd need to do to solder it, but need to get the goods to do it.
* megal0maniac_afk
still can't believe the ridiculous cable he made yesterday
<libv>
does it have the same case and the same motherboard?
<libv>
anyway, i am just bringing up hyundai A7 (which i recevied a few h ago, and which i documented just now), so let's see whether recent u-boot respects boot.scr
* megal0maniac_afk
bows to the wiki wizard
<mmarker>
Yea. Looks the same. What I expected as well.
<libv>
i just offed the head of a toothbrush :p
<libv>
now working the pictures
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: Did you get the message about itead mirroring the pinout?
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: i read it, and i hoped that you would go and fix it in the picture :)
<libv>
also, what was that with itead and iteaduino?
<megal0maniac_afk>
One sec
<libv>
is this ibox an itead ibox or an itead iteaduino ibox?
<megal0maniac_afk>
Itead Studio (or Itead for short) is the manufacturer. Iteaduino is a product, IBOX is another product
<megal0maniac_afk>
(Iteaduino plus, rather)
<megal0maniac_afk>
Was referring to the filename for the pinout, which is Iteaduino_ibox_uart.jpg
<libv>
ah, ok
<libv>
just rename it then :)
<libv>
nice to know that i am not the only one nitpicking ;)
<megal0maniac_afk>
I shall. Just wanted you to know :P
<megal0maniac_afk>
Still can't believe they messed up the pinout :/
<libv>
.cn
<megal0maniac_afk>
Shhh!
<libv>
mmarker: so it isn't really that off-brand then :)
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<mmarker>
Yup. Case is different labeling, but the guts are the same.
<libv>
mmarker: what's on the case?
<libv>
mmarker: also, what do the android identification strings tell you?
<libv>
does it state MK802 or MK802+ or nothing at all?
<libv>
Just mini pc android blahblah
<mmarker>
Oh, let me boot into android, but the case lacks minipc. Just says android 4.0 mini PC.
<libv>
mmarker: we wouldn't mind having a picture of that as well :)
<mmarker>
I'll snag one. Where should it go?
<mmarker>
And android is booting now.
<libv>
edit it down to just the device, and scale it to something reasonable
<libv>
wens: i will be taking external pictures of q8h today as well, so its page can be completed
<libv>
wens: let's hope your guess is right :)
<ssvb>
wens: can you explain this thing about ACIN and VBUS shorting in more detail?
<wens>
libv: I'm poking around u-boot to see if I can't get SPL working, then we can test that :)
<libv>
wens: if not, we have another rev 1 of the semitime g2 on our hands
<ssvb>
wens: unfortunately I'm mostly just a software guy
<wens>
ssvb: if you look at the schematics, AXP takes ACIN from the DC-5V tap, which is before a diode
<wens>
AXP takes VBUS from OTG-VBUS
<wens>
DC-5V and OTG-VBUS both have a diode before merging into VCC-5V
<wens>
so current cannot flow from VBUS to ACIN, or vice versa
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<ssvb>
wens: really? I wonder why I'm measuring low resistance between the central pin of the barrel power connector and the VBUS pin on the USB cable connected to OTG
<ssvb>
wens: also AXP reports 5V on ACIN and 0V on VBUS when I'm powering the board from OTG
<wens>
maybe I'm mistaken then...
<wens>
anyway that's what the schematics say
<wens>
I don't have my hardware around to actually test it
<ssvb>
wens: I'm getting just ~0.7 ohms in either direction
<wens>
maybe someone swapped the diode for a resistor
<megal0maniac_afk>
Might that not be the 0.7V drop over the diodes?
<ssvb>
wens (or anybody else): about the cubieboard schematics, do I understand it right that 1.5V DDR3 power line is bypassing AXP there?
<ssvb>
megal0maniac_afk: more like the resistance of my mini-USB cable
<megal0maniac_afk>
All the tools there are in uboot though, nothing fancy
<libv>
mmarker: i just meant that you shouldn't make it 15MP with loads of extra stuff surrounding the actual device :)
<mmarker>
Well, its mostly a flat black. Why spend the bits? :D
<libv>
:)
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<mmarker>
And uboot is still being a petulant child. Have to wait until I get to my soldering iron it looks like
<megal0maniac_afk>
Haha wow. 7kb
<libv>
it's fine, it shows the differing lettering quite clearly
<megal0maniac_afk>
I wasn't moaning :)
<libv>
mmarker: i will get to building uboot and running it today still, as otherwise i will not be pushing my patches, so i will provide you with some feedback today still
<libv>
just doing several things at once (Well, mostly editing the wiki)
<mmarker>
No worries. I know the value of a good serial console (eyes pile of ARM gear)
<megal0maniac_afk>
No nand_part here either :/
<megal0maniac_afk>
fffffffffffff
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: it's in sunxi-tools
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: as is clearly stated on the nand wiki page
<megal0maniac_afk>
Yip
<megal0maniac_afk>
Just thought it might be included
<megal0maniac_afk>
s/thought/hoped
<libv>
nope, that's a sunxi specific tool
<megal0maniac_afk>
This is a sunxi specific image
<libv>
you cannot put off getting a toolchain any longer
<libv>
it's not as much hassle as you'd think
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: No, I know. My dockstar was even part of the build farm for Rockbox for a while :P
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<megal0maniac_afk>
2nd slowest client I think
<mmarker>
Dockstar. Kids these days. I was porting Mozilla (not Firefox) on a Netwinder.
<mmarker>
And yes, we had to walk uphill both ways in the snow.
<mmarker>
Oh. And looking at the wiki. My internals on this 1g stick match the original mk802, the serial pad layout is the same
<megal0maniac_afk>
mmarker: The dockstars have gigabit networking and cost $30. And they're easier to hack than "development platforms" :P
<ssvb>
mmarker: how much RAN did it have?
<ssvb>
*RAM
<mmarker>
Mine I think had 256megs. Standard config was 128
<megal0maniac_afk>
Dockstar only has 128
<megal0maniac_afk>
That's probably the biggest shortfall. That, and lack of floating point support
<megal0maniac_afk>
Well, FPU
<ssvb>
mmarker: oh, then it was not that much of a challenge :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroB was officially shipped on devices with 128MB (Nokia N800) and even unofficially on 64MB (Nokia 770)
<ssvb>
mmarker: the latter did not have FPU either
<mmarker>
StrongARM didn't have an FPU either.
<mmarker>
And clocked at a whopping 275mhz clock. Vrooom!
<ssvb>
but the Internet used to be a bit different (lighter on resources) back in the days :)
<mmarker>
And note. Not just running. Compiling the lizard. :D
<ssvb>
compiling? why?
<mmarker>
Ssvb: someone had to port Mozilla to arm!
<Wizzup>
what is 'mozilla'?
<mmarker>
And GCC in those days - arm support was not so hot, and cross compiling worse.
<Wizzup>
Firefox works fine on arm
<mru>
'mozilla' was the name of the original open source release of netscape
<mmarker>
Kids these days! This was pre-firefox. Porting the JS core and XPCOM was a royal pita.
<mru>
mozilla was also the internal name of the netscape browser
<mmarker>
Yup
<Wizzup>
I know what the mozilla suite was
<mru>
oh god, the old js core
<mru>
so many bugs
<Wizzup>
It's just that calling it mozilla is very ambigious
<mru>
'mozilla' was the name
<Wizzup>
Yes, and you should add more because it is quite ambigious
<mru>
I think they abandoned it after the 1.2 release
<megal0maniac_afk>
:D
<megal0maniac_afk>
fatal: destination path 'sunxi-tools' already exists and is not an empty directory.
<mmarker>
Mru: lots of the guts stuck around. I remember the pain of NSS making some lameass assumptions. And thanks to netbsd, there were about a bazillion arm defines tossed in the JS code since some ARM engineer thought it would be funny to have a byteorder on floating point different from everything else.
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: I give up, for now. Maybe I'll tunnel my serial connection over ssh, give someone an IP address, credentials, and $5 to do it for me :P
<wens>
that depends on your battery?
<Turl>
wens: china tablet battery
<wens>
no clue :(
<Turl>
wens: I mean more or less, is it in the ballpark for a battery? or would they normally be more like 260Wh or 0.1Wh?
<Turl>
that data is pulled from the fex, just making sure the unit conversion is alright
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<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: read those wiki links.
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: I AM
<Turl>
ssvb: ~1A draw with screen on, half that with it off (at 3.9V)
<megal0maniac_afk>
But there's too much of it that doesn't make sense
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: you have an A20
<megal0maniac_afk>
So it will take a while
<megal0maniac_afk>
Yes
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: yet the mbr version reads: 0x00000100
<megal0maniac_afk>
I wouldn't know to look for that, or why
<ssvb>
wens: but people were speculating about Montjoie's patches there, so it was a nice thing to finally learn about
<wens>
ok, just looked at it
<wens>
the TP sensor is the resistive touchpad controller
<ssvb>
wens: I guess the assumption is that the TP controller has an ADC built-in for its own touchscreen purposes, but the very same ADC is also shared with the in-chip temperature sensor
<ssvb>
but this assumption still has to be verified before we are really done with it
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<ssvb>
especially considering that the results seem to be strange on A10
<ssvb>
so anyone here with the temperature measurement tools? pretty much please...
<Turl>
wens: can the axp (batt?) temp measurement be relied upon?
<Turl>
the axp driver on 3.4 currently hardcodes "300"
<wens>
Turl: that requires an external thermistor
<Turl>
so that's a no then :)
<Turl>
wonder why did they even bother reporting a fake number then :p
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<ssvb>
Turl: is it used anywhere in some calculations or decision making?
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<Turl>
ssvb: dunno, doesn't look like so on the axp driver
<Turl>
ssvb: maybe userspace would want to shut down if temp is too high
<wens>
probably some android stuff
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<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: is the a20 version of the same partition table getting you anywhere?
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: I was in MacDonalds soldering a cable :D
<megal0maniac_afk>
Now I'm back. The nand_part in the image was outdated and didn't support a20 switch, so I recompiled
<megal0maniac_afk>
About to try
<megal0maniac_afk>
(Wasn't soldering a cable for MacDonalds, just using their power :P)
<Wizzup>
lol
<Turl>
wait, you took a soldering iron to a mcdonalds
<megal0maniac_afk>
I did
<Turl>
opened your tablet there
<Turl>
soldered it
<Turl>
and left?
<Turl>
lol
<megal0maniac_afk>
NO, it was a power supply for someone else
<Turl>
well, but you soldered something on a mcdonalds?
<megal0maniac_afk>
But yes, that's more or less how it went. Prepped the wires in the car and went inside to finish the job
<megal0maniac_afk>
Turl: Exactly
<Turl>
someone should give you an achievement badge or something
<Turl>
lol
<megal0maniac_afk>
Wasn't able to test. Hope it works :/
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: mbr: version 0x00000200, magic softw411
<Turl>
magic smoke would've started to raise some serious flags on there :)
<megal0maniac_afk>
Turl: My solder is leaded, even
<megal0maniac_afk>
OKAY
<megal0maniac_afk>
Cubieboard2 has a link to Installing to NAND
<megal0maniac_afk>
But it is applicable only to Cubieboard1 (because A10 partition table)
<megal0maniac_afk>
So I'm removing the link. It just breaks things and confuses people like me
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<montjoie[home]>
ssvb if mripard could ask AW, go for it
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<megal0maniac_afk>
Is mtd a way of dealind with NAND flash, or is it an actual type of flash memory?
<Turl>
ahci and usb have landed on torvalds/master :)
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<Turl>
megal0maniac_afk: it's an abstraction layer on the kernel
<megal0maniac_afk>
Turl: Is there a reason that it isn't used for sunxi?
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: because allwinner implemented libnand, a higher level abstraction
<libv>
due to apparently patents, linux does not have support for a block layer which works with nand/flash and which does wear levelling
<libv>
so we are stuck with mtd, and filesystems on top implement the wear levelling
<Turl>
also because AW suffers from NIH and maximizes code reuse to never before seen levels
<libv>
mtd is being worked on, but it is not compatible with libnand, or will never be
<megal0maniac_afk>
Fair enough. Given that we haven libnand, mtd shouldn't be urgent
<libv>
megal0maniac_afk: it is urgent, as it holds us back
<megal0maniac_afk>
It does?
<libv>
why do we use an antique u-boot version?
<mru>
wear levelling can probably be done more efficiently if coupled with the filesystem
<megal0maniac_afk>
libv: Why do you think I know things? :P
<megal0maniac_afk>
I assume because allwinner gave us binaries, and we don't have sources for libnand, nor support for mtd so we're stuck with an old version
<ssvb>
mru: some passionate and skilled person might be needed to make things happen in the long run, the sunxi community just needs to attract more nand enthusiasts :)
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<libv>
ssvb: ok :)
<libv>
heh, the a20-cubie* stuff needs to be be moved to cubieboard2 and cubietruck, no suffix there.
<libv>
working title apparently was a20-cubieboard, but now it's just cubieboard2 everywhere
* libv
hopes that when all the cubie* olinuxino* and devices like the mk802 are in order, people will create better device pages.
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<Turl>
libv: KMS? :)
<libv>
jaja :p
<ccaione>
wens: can I ask your help for a translation?
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<Turl>
hey ccaione :)
<ccaione>
hei Turl 0/ wassup
<Turl>
ccaione: I'm playing with axp on 3.4 :p trying to make it work with upower
<ccaione>
good luck with that :) BTW, suspendo support for axp in 3.4 is totally broken
<Turl>
ccaione: I dunno if the energy now calculation is correct though; does axp provide that info in some direct way?
<ccaione>
Turl: no idea about battery stuff since I have no hw
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<Turl>
ccaione: no tablet or CT?
<ccaione>
nop
<ccaione>
just cb1 and cb2
<Turl>
:(
<ccaione>
I'm open for donations :D
<Turl>
ccaione: weren't you on the list when they gave CT's to people here?
<ccaione>
I think I missed that
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<kenny>
Maybe a stupid question, but why can't you connect the VCC line for UART?
<mru>
on which board?
<mru>
and connect to what?
<Turl>
kenny: because those tend to be 5V, and because it's not needed
<Turl>
and probably some other reasons hw people can give you :)
<mru>
incidentally, I'm using a level shifter where it is needed
<mru>
got to be powered somehow
<kenny>
what about between an RPi and a CB2? they should both be the same voltage, right? (I understand it's not needed, and works fine without it, just wondering)
<libv>
kenny: simply don't bother, 99% of the cases it is fine
<mru>
if you need to ask, don't connect it
<libv>
but you definitely do not want to connect 5V to a 3.3V pad
<Turl>
mnemoc: thx :)
<Turl>
mru: wise advice
<kenny>
haha
<libv>
mnemoc: you don't have european citizenship, right?
* libv
just got a letter telling him to chose between voting in .be or in .de
* mru
has a similar letter
<mru>
different choices
<mnemoc>
libv: italian
<libv>
mnemoc: really? heh, you've certainly seen a few corners of .eu then :)
<mnemoc>
fewer than what I want, but yes
<libv>
link in privmsg
<Turl>
libv: do you have dual citizenship?
<libv>
Turl: nope, i firmly believe that .eu citizenship is all that matters in the world
<libv>
and that the fact that i am supposed to vote for the .be national government and cannot vote for a state at all, is horribly injust and undemocratic
* Turl
is confused
<Turl>
libv: so you're a .be citizen yet they let you vote for .de?
* mru
sometimes considers applying for a 3rd citizenship
<mru>
in the EU parliament elections you can vote according to citizenship or residence
<libv>
Turl: as a belgian in germany, who's been there for 7 years, i can: vote for the city of nuernberg, cannot vote for the german state of bavaria, cannot vote for the german national parliament, but could vote for the belgian national parliament, and i can vote for the european parliament
<mru>
but only for one country
<libv>
so i lose the bavarian level
<libv>
but if you look at it from the belgian point of view, i lose 2 levels
<libv>
as you can vote for the dutch or french speaking "federal" parliaments, and for provinces
* Turl
is now even more confused
<mru>
I can vote in city and county elections in .uk, national in .se, either .uk or .se for eu elections
<libv>
mru: stop paying taxes there
* mru
is swedish citizen in .uk
<mru>
taxes where?
<libv>
mru: i have a dark brown suspicion that .uk is what is blocking this
<libv>
like with most things .eu
<mru>
blocking what?
<libv>
the fact that you still have country citizenships and not a european citizenship
<libv>
and that we both lose a level (at least)
<libv>
you cannot vote for the county or whatever it is called that you live in
<mru>
I can also vote for US president but that's entirely separate
<mru>
libv: I can
<mru>
city and county
<mru>
not national
<libv>
really?
<ccaione>
mnemoc: italian???
<Turl>
ccaione: many people in latam got es, it citizenships
<libv>
then .uk is ahead of europe there? is your other citizenship .us?
<mru>
I have .se and .us citizenships
<ccaione>
Turl: why?
<mru>
I could apply for .uk
<libv>
mru: oh, you lose england/wales/scotland/whatever, right?
<Turl>
ccaione: there's laws to get them if you have a grandparent that's es/it citizen or something
<mnemoc>
ccaione: the italian law says that the child of an italian is italian, regardless where he/she is born
<mru>
libv: there's no such thing
<libv>
ok :)
<mru>
there's a scottish parliament
<mru>
and a welsh assembly
<Turl>
ccaione: and european passports are usually more convenient to travel around
<mru>
but nothing for england
<ccaione>
mnemoc: are you son of italian parents?
<mru>
I don't know who gets to vote for the scottish parliament
<mnemoc>
ccaione: yes, both, but both born in .cl too :p
<ccaione>
Turl: agree
<mru>
I assume it requires at least residence
<ccaione>
mnemoc: hahaha cool, you are a fellow italian then ;))
<mnemoc>
ccaione: but my italian stinks :p
<libv>
mru: ok, so only .uk is ahead of europe there, amazing
<ccaione>
mnemoc: italian is the least useful language, so it is ok
<mru>
the uk is a bit complicated
<Turl>
ccaione: I sent the watchdog patch btw :p
<libv>
yes :)
<mnemoc>
ccaione: :)
<ccaione>
Turl: thanks
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<mru>
the non-england members of the uk have various degrees of autonomy which they exercise through their local parliaments/assemblies
<mru>
but there is no specifically _english_ parliament
<libv>
anyway, for those wondering, this was about the upcoming european elections
* mnemoc
needs to update his anmeldung address :\
<libv>
mnemoc: whut?
<libv>
mnemoc: you moved inside berlin, or you still need to go to einwohnermeldeamt since you came there?
<mnemoc>
inside berlin
<libv>
ah, ok, it's still pretty important to do so though
<mnemoc>
but i don't receive this kind of letters because I haven't updated my address
<mnemoc>
yup
<libv>
you do have the post forwarding letters, right?
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<mnemoc>
yes, but important letters can't be forwarded
<libv>
right
<mnemoc>
ccaione: one annoying detail of my citizenship is that my italian passport has two surnames, as by chilean law :|
<mnemoc>
ccaione: and that I can't get a resident ID card either in .es or .de beucase I'm EU citizen and I'm not supposed to need one, and otoh you can only get a italian id card while _living_ in .it ... so I have to carry the passport everywhere
<ccaione>
mnemoc: It's a mess having two names in italy, I cannot imagine two surnames
<libv>
mnemoc: that's another one of those things... if i need a new idcard or passport, i need to talk to the berlin embassy.
* mnemoc
has two of each :|
<libv>
it takes me about as long to travel to berlin as it does for brussels
<mnemoc>
libv: but the .be consulate issues id cards?
<libv>
yes
<libv>
you probably need to talk to the italian consulate
<libv>
which is only a metro ride away from you :p
<ccaione>
mnemoc: you can be my guest in milan if you want to get an ID ;)
<mnemoc>
ccaione: isn't it bound to the comune where you live?
<mnemoc>
libv: indeed :)
<ccaione>
mnemoc: yes, but after it has been issued you can relocate without having to modify it
<mnemoc>
ah, nice
<mnemoc>
ccaione: do they issue real cards yet or still with the cartolina?
<ccaione>
for my ID I still live in bologna :)
<ccaione>
mnemoc: I think you can ask for the electronic card. I have the cartolina
<libv>
careful.
<libv>
7ys ago, .be had 75% moved to electronic already
<libv>
i was, due to my name, one of the latter 25%
<libv>
since i was moving to nue, i went to the communal administration and said "give me one of those fancy electronic ones, so i can just have it flashed when i am in .de"
<libv>
"that's not how it works"
<libv>
so i got issued with an old style id card, even though everyone else was getting rid of it
<libv>
i am not sure whether, in the meantime, there are electronic id cards for .be expats
<mnemoc>
libv: so I could get a german electronic id too?
<libv>
and therefor, it could be that .it still uses fully paper ones as well
<libv>
mnemoc: nope
<libv>
mnemoc: depends on how italy handles its expats
<libv>
a german id card is the last thing you get :)
* mnemoc
hates to carry the passport
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<libv>
that would've been easy, if your communal administration just issued a european electronic id card, but such a thing doesn't exist.
<libv>
mnemoc: talk to the italian embassy :)
<libv>
and find out :)
<mru>
I have a swedish national id card
<mru>
valid for travel anywhere in the schengen region
<libv>
mru: since .uk is not schengen, you would kind of expect to have to deal with embassy all the time
<ccaione>
"After more than 10 years of trials, the use of the electronic card is still limited to relatively few municipalities and the "online features" are not yet implemented"
<mru>
libv: not really
<bertrik>
my passport has rfid in it, even my finger prints in it electronically I think
<mru>
I have to show my passport when entering
<ccaione>
hahahah jesus, I hate being italian
<libv>
ccaione: serves you right for having that clown for a priminister for that long ;p
<ccaione>
libv: :(
heretic_ is now known as selsinork
<libv>
a huge sigh of relief went through the world when he finally left the political stage :)
<ccaione>
libv: actually he is still there. It cannot be elected, but unfortunately he is still there
<mru>
you could shoot him...
<ccaione>
mru: I'd like C_C
<libv>
mru: nah, that just makes things worse
<mru>
I mean, if someone were to shoot him...
<libv>
people like that should peter out
<libv>
mru: your .us nationality is showing through btw :p
<mru>
or if he died in an unfortunate accident
<mru>
isn't that how it's done in italy? :)
<libv>
people who got killed or died in a tragic accident, become demigods overnight
<libv>
hehe
<ccaione>
mru: libv is right, more like american style
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<libv>
anyway, glad to have him on his way out
<ccaione>
me too. But I kind have lost hope and I'm moving abroad on january
<libv>
ccaione: where to?
<ccaione>
libv: dunno yet, it depends on my gf
<ccaione>
she has asked for relocation at work
<mnemoc>
finland?
<ccaione>
for me it is easier to find a job
<ccaione>
mnemoc: more likely london, amsterdam or sweden
<libv>
helsinki is nice, but i wouldn't want to live there during those long dark winters
<libv>
ccaione: no office in germany?
<libv>
ccaione: that way you're pretty nearby italy still, but have the alps to separate you from them
<mnemoc>
london and helsinki are just too expensive to be enjoyed imo
<lauri>
yeah that's excatly what I am suggesting to get the packages to the right place :)
<lauri>
I am just sharing what I did for fun :P
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<libv>
lauri: you do know that libump and xf86-video-fbturbo are already packaged and just need to built for the respective debian distro, right?
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<libv>
lauri: but the vdpau-sunxi stuff is new
<libv>
the xorg.conf is pretty specific
<libv>
and the chmodding should've been done by the respect package
<libv>
respective package
<libv>
i started this page to get some ideas/feedback on managing a bigger set of repositories, but the person who was interested in it 4 months ago bugger off: http://linux-sunxi.org/Packaging
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<lauri>
libv: where can I find libump and fbturbo packages?
<libv>
gotta love linus with respect to systemd/udev/whatever other flotsome this black hole gathered
<libv>
lauri: packages.linux-sunxi.org
<libv>
src is included
<libv>
not sure whether the packaging made it back to ssvb yet
<libv>
but libump is on sunxi github
<mru>
hmm, gcc -lump
<mru>
was that intentional?
<lauri>
libv: I can't find the source package there, where is it exactly?
<lauri>
libv: The binaries are missing so it did not change much for me ..