<vms14>
I have no idea about what I should be aware
<vms14>
well, that (setf body) is wrong xD
<White_Flame>
?INSUFFICIENT PROBLEM DESCRIPTION ERROR
<White_Flame>
READY.
<vms14>
:O
<White_Flame>
it's much easier to tell you what's wrong if you tell us what error you're getting and what you're hoping to do with the code
<beach>
vms14: It is usually a bad idea to assign to parameters. It can screw up your backtrace when you need to debug things.
<vms14>
White_Flame: I have no errors
<vms14>
I mean about design
<vms14>
I'm trying to make some sort of js transpiler
<White_Flame>
js-var should definitely output "var foo=3;", not "foo=3;"
<vms14>
beach: I suppose you mean that setf body, I'll remove it, idk why I was setting that if body is a rest parameter, so I won't put a list inside it
<vms14>
White_Flame: got it, I'll change that
<White_Flame>
presumably your name & values parameters have already been rendered to strings
<vms14>
nope, it's a very dirty approach
<vms14>
for example console-log
<vms14>
(console-log "meh" "oh" "'ohh'")
<White_Flame>
(let ((body (if (listp (car body))....)) is how you would scope your newly fixed up dependent body value
<vms14>
"console.log(meh,oh,'ohh');"
<vms14>
White_Flame: I don't really need that, since body will be always a list and it has no sense to put (js-function "name" "parameters" '("statement1" "statement2"))
<White_Flame>
I mean to avoid the setf body
<vms14>
since is a rest parameter, will be always a list
<White_Flame>
(car body) is not always a list, which is what is being checked
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<vms14>
yeah, because I was checking for that "use", but idk why the heck I did that
<White_Flame>
ah, k
<vms14>
(js-function "name" "parameters" '("statement1" "statement2")) I'll never do that, and it was what I was checking
<vms14>
I'll directly do (js-function "name" "parameters" "statement1" "statement2")
<vms14>
but idk if I should be doing that, or better to have some kind of interpreter
<White_Flame>
it all depends on what your input form is
<vms14>
that for example when you define a variable it maintains a list of defined variables or alike
<White_Flame>
but if you have anything AST-like, you can just do recursive descent to stringify all the statements & value expression
<vms14>
I did something with html, but since html is just a markup language and has a very straightforward syntax, it was easier, so I made a bad written macro that creates tags
<vms14>
now I'd like to do the same for js, but js is a programming language and won't be as easy
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<White_Flame>
it's still just a datastructure, just holding more stuff. Scopes, functions, parameters, etc
<vms14>
I feel it will be a mess, that's why I asked for hints
<vms14>
I'd like them to be individual functions, not a macro that looks for symbols, so I can use stuff like mapcar and so on
<White_Flame>
yeah, that's basically what I said. It's just a nested datastructure, where a function is a node in there
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<White_Flame>
and "function foo() {...}" as far as I know is equivalent to "var foo = function() {...}" so you might want to normalize on one or the other
<vms14>
I'll stick with function name()
<vms14>
I don't see the point in saving a function in a variable, even knowing js let's you do that
<vms14>
unless you want to use let
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<vms14>
(format t "~{~A~}" (list (js-var "meh" "['oh','my','cat']") (foreach "meh" (arrow "x" (console-log "x")))))
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<boeg>
I have an asdf system set up with two packages. In one package I have some helper functions. In the other package I can do `helper::function` to use a helper function form the first package, but is it possible to do something so the helper functions comes in to scope so I just can do `function` instead to reach it?
<beach>
boeg: First of all, you should export the names that you want client code to use.
<beach>
Using :: is a bad sign.
<boeg>
beach: oh, okay, didn't know that
<beach>
Then, you can :USE the helper package in the other package.
<beach>
Better, you can selectively import the symbols you need.
<beach>
But I think the best solution is to keep the package prefix, so that a person reading your code knows what package the symbol came from.
<boeg>
beach: ah, it works, I was missing the export, already had ":use"'d set up in my package config
<boeg>
just exporting and everything works as intended, thanks!
<boeg>
> But I think the best solution is to keep the package prefix, so that a person reading your code knows what package the symbol came from
<boeg>
It's a very good point! But I guess ... These functions are helper (debug) functions that are used everywhere in the other packages, so i think it makes sense leaving out the package. If it was used rarely, I'd agree
<beach>
Whatever.
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<pjb>
minion: memo for vms14: have you considered using parenscript?
<minion>
Remembered. I'll tell vms14 when he/she/it next speaks.
<pjb>
beach: in the case of boeg, you have a single system, and the fact that there are two packages is an implementation detail (one of them is a "helper" package). In that case, it should not matter and clients should not be concerned by how the authors use the symbols across the internal packages. :use'ing the package internal is a perfectly valid, internald choice.
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<Xach>
merry lispmas, one and all
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<phoe>
merry lispmas to you too
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<hsaziz>
What does Portacle use for code completion? I am trying to customize my Emacs setup rather than accept the entirety of Portacle.
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<ebrasca>
Xach: What is lispmas?
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<ebrasca>
hsaziz: I think portable uses slime for code completion.
<hsaziz>
How do I make free editing of parentheses the default behavior in Portacle? I do not want it (at least for the moment) to automatically generate [and enforce] matched parentheses.
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<Xach>
hsaziz: I think that is due to paredit-mode, so toggling paredit-mode might help you.
<Xach>
I don't use portacle so I am not 100% certain
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<beach>
clothespin_: You can talk about your stuff on #sicl. I am usually on from around 06:00 to around 18:00 UTC+1, but today I have had guests over for lunch, and I am a bit busy cleaning up.
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<hsaziz>
(car '((Happy Festivus!) 13)
<decent-username>
happy winter holiday!
<hsaziz>
Oops wrong parenthesisation!
<hsaziz>
(car '((Happy Festivus!) 13))
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<pfdietz>
For the (rest of-us)
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<phoe>
An issue I've made one and half a year ago was still not resolved, and the maintainer seemd inactive on GitHub.
<pfdietz>
I wonder how to arrange a better way to support these things. It would have to involve a group of people, and a subset of the available packages. Perhaps this could be a way of establishing a de facto standard library?
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<Shinmera>
pfdietz: If I understand you correctly Sharplispers is such a thing?
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<phoe>
pfdietz: sharplispers
<pfdietz>
Ok then
<Shinmera>
It's not /quite/ the same thing, as, if I understand, it's supposed to be a fallback for important projects that are no longer maintained by the original authors
<Shinmera>
rather than a proactive group that takes up maintenance of projects that have established themselves ahead of time.
<phoe>
Shinmera: sharplispers is a group of people who take care of abandoned projects that belong to the de facto standard library
<phoe>
that's my definition of it
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<Shinmera>
so pretty much what I said
<phoe>
ayup
<phoe>
except I've tried to tie my words into what pfdietz said
<Shinmera>
A more proactive approach could be good too, I think.
<phoe>
like, alexandria isn't under sharplispers since it has active maintainers
<phoe>
even though I can't imagine a more belongs-to-the-standard-library codebase than alexandria
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<pfdietz>
There, the question becomes how to add things to it, and who decides what goes in.
<phoe>
pfdietz: no idea, one could ask fe[nl]ix or Xach perhaps
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<ym>
Hi. macrolet defined in top unquoted part of defmacro won't work in it's quoted part, right?
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<decent-username>
ym: Do you want to use macrolet to make the macro code easier to read/maintain?
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<earl-ducaine>
RE: proactive approach to the CL core library. common-lisp.net, seems like a logical registry for projects, maintainers, official source locations, etc.
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<earl-ducaine>
But, it suffers the same problem that many CL projects do, much of the info is woefully out of date.
<ym>
decent-username, I'm want to write xlib wrapper to make xlib's functions easier to work with. with-x macro takes body and should convert for example (xlib:draw-arc drawable gc x y ...) into (circle x y r). So circle should be available from with-x only.
<decent-username>
hm...
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<MichaelRaskin>
You just need to insert the macrolet into the expansion (quoted part, so to say)
<ym>
Hmm. Got it, gonna try, thanks.
<decent-username>
the expanded code would have the macrolet and it should be accessible from within.
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<decent-username>
you will be able to use the macro if the expanded code has the macrolet.
<decent-username>
It shouldn't be too hard.
<ym>
I thought it's not good idea to nest `-code.
<pfdietz>
It would be interesting to trawl through quicklisp to find functions that lots of people have copied, and move them into Alexandria.
<decent-username>
There's a box, which contains a macro with nested `-forms.
<decent-username>
if PCL does it, it can't be wrong. haha
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<MichaelRaskin>
pfdietz: probably with variable-renaming detection
<ym>
Yep, it works. Thanks again.
<decent-username>
nice to hear.
<MichaelRaskin>
pfdietz: Actually, maybe you should just look for repeating AST subtrees?
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<MichaelRaskin>
ym: `-nesting definitely has some cost in terms of ease of reasoning. There are quite a few cases where it is still the cheapest approach
<phoe>
earl-ducaine: I've heard voices that gitlab.cl.net is not a good place because of it being hard to reach from the outside - invitations and so on
<phoe>
but then again, I can't see how it can be fought differently unless one hires a spam-fighting person
<phoe>
and this discussion might belong better on #common-lisp.net
<phoe>
pfdietz: alexandria has yet another issue due to being widespread
<phoe>
if alexandria introduces an exported symbol named FOO, how many people who :use :alexandria will get symbol conflicts due to alexandria being used along with other packages?
<phoe>
its export list is pretty much frozen in stone due to that, since it introducing new exported symbols might (and will) break user code
<earl-ducaine>
I'm trying to create a macro, defreplace, that emits a macro such that (defreplace name newname) would create the macro (defmacro name (&body body) `(newname ,@body))
<earl-ducaine>
I can't believe I'm totally stuck on such a simple macro.
<phoe>
whose fault is it? I say no one's, since there was no good solution for nicknames before PLNs (and even PLNs aren't all the best that we could possibly get)
<phoe>
what do we do about it? I'm happy to hear answers about this one
<phoe>
s/about/for/
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<pfdietz>
phoe: trawling quicklisp will also tell you which symbols would collide, at least with everything in quicklisp that uses Alexandria.
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<pfdietz>
But it does suggest that :USE has problems. :IMPORT-FROM doesn't suffer from that issue.
<phoe>
pfdietz: hmm. That is a workable approach.
<phoe>
pfdietz: or PLNs.
<phoe>
Again though, :USE is convenient, whereas :IMPORT-FROM is not.
<pfdietz>
Wanted: tool that automatically produces the IMPORT-FROM list.
<MichaelRaskin>
Hmm, that doesn't even require code-walking
<pfdietz>
earl-ducaine: macros that create macros tempt one to use nested backquote forms. Resist this temptation. Use unnested backquoutes with separate helper functions.
<MichaelRaskin>
But then you need to maintain the list
<pfdietz>
The book On Lisp goes heavily into macros-that-produce-macros, as I recall.
<_death>
earl-ducaine: since you want to use newname's value (an arbitrary object, not a form to be evaluated, that's available when the outer backquote is evaluated) you want to use ,',newname, i.e. (defmacro defreplace (name newname) `(defmacro ,name (&body body) `(,',newname ,@body)))
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<pfdietz>
Or, you can use a helper function and not nest the backquotes. I find that approach much less confusing.
<phoe>
^
<phoe>
you can do double backquotes, the question is whether it's worth it
<phoe>
it's been a while since I answered this question for myself with a "no, not at all"
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<earl-ducaine>
_death: Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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<flip214>
phoe: I've started a call for ideas for a ALEXANDRIA-2 package... merge requests welcome, or just push to the branch
<_death>
perhaps it would be a good idea to improve the implementation of operators already defined
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<aeth>
As far as going beyond PLNs, CL needs hierarchical packages. Right now you can kind of sort of fake it with uiop:define-package's use-reexport or at least one other library that does something similar, but it's not ideal sicne they're still all top level packages, just with / to fake a hierarchy that's not there.
<aeth>
s/sicne/since/
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<pfdietz>
Hierarchical packages solve the problem of "export to my neighbors, but not to the outside world"?
<aeth>
pfdietz: Sort of. They solve the problem of controlling what goes to the outside world.
<aeth>
pfdietz: So e.g. you can use-reexport 7 of 9 packages, and juse use 2 packages (in addition to CL, obviously), keeping them essentially 'private'
<aeth>
s/juse use/just use/
<aeth>
Hierarchical packages could enforce this a bit more because if it's not a public package then it would be restricted to the other subpackages (although there might have to be some escape hatch for testing packages)
<aeth>
So I guess exactly what you said, then.
<aeth>
It's "export to my neighbors [and parent], but not to the outside world [unless the parent says so]" with the addition of a use-reexport for convenience.
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<pfdietz>
Cool, ty
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<no-defun-allowed>
Can I invoke the Lisp compiler with a form like `(funcall #<function> values...)`, with a function object directly provided to it?
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<Shinmera>
as long as you don't dump it, sure.
<Shinmera>
objects, unless otherwise specified, are self-evaluating.
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<no-defun-allowed>
Alright, thanks.
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<ym>
Is there a library for implementation portable time and schedulers handling?
<fe[nl]ix>
ym: try trivial-timers
<phoe>
or confusingly-similarly-named trivial-timer
<pfdietz>
trivial-timers was last updated 9 years ago, the other just recently.
<phoe>
seriously, both are in quicklisp and it seems that the plural version was last updated in 2010 while th--
<phoe>
this
<pfdietz>
jinx!
<pfdietz>
This question was answered by having the entire quicklisp dist downloaded, and ls -ld *time* in quicklisp/dist/quicklisp/software/