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<DocScrutinizer51>
short howdy from cccamp15. meeting werner and sebastian is just great, as is the amount of enthusiastic Neo900 and openmoko fans dropping by at our village on 1st day already
<DocScrutinizer51>
just the connectivity is abysmal here, particularly for cellular. Shame on you. O2/telefonica! :-/
<Wizzup>
well I hope the weather here in amsterdam won't move to berlin
<DocScrutinizer51>
maybe it should
<DocScrutinizer51>
way too hot here
<enyc>
=)
<enyc>
DocScrutinizer51: what sort of questions are you gettning at tho camp?
<Wizzup>
it's intense rain and storm
<Wizzup>
and thunder
<enyc>
uk is and all loudy jut when the meteor-shower supposed to be on
<Wizzup>
perseids?
<enyc>
hum err think so =)
<DocScrutinizer51>
enyc: "what's state of project?"
<Wizzup>
zzzz :)
<enyc>
DocScrutinizer51: i see, and do you hae a good answer to this showing wahats' truly needde to complete, so it doesn't look too dead-in-the-woter / looks well worth investing in?
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<DocScrutinizer51>
how would I know?
<enyc>
DocScrutinizer51: well what answer have you been giving =)
<modem>
DocScrutinizer51, cool thanks for keeping us informed :)
<DocScrutinizer51>
I just can tell what's already known to all of you: in 2 weeks we'll order N900 and that's deadline for preorder of complete devices basically. then we continue with proto vae
<DocScrutinizer51>
I think wpwrak, dos1 and me meeating is already a great push to keep mood up, and antiatom is a *great* guy really helping a friggin LOT with PR and general strategy
<DocScrutinizer51>
perseids? I seen several falling stars last 3 days
<DocScrutinizer51>
anyway cya later folks, goote have a short nap (maybe 4h) after a busy day
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<DocScrutinizer51>
n8
<DocScrutinizer51>
~botsnack
<infobot>
thanks, DocScrutinizer51
<modem>
gn
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<DocScrutinizer51>
oh, werner brought 4 spacerframe protos \o/
<ZetaR>
DocScrutinizer51: Hiya. Good to know things are going well.
<DocScrutinizer51>
saturday night "workshop": integrating PCB sandwich and spacerfrane, live
<DocScrutinizer51>
nn
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<varu>
ahh, damn. figured the '10min late' meant the talk would be 10min late
<varu>
guess it related to the announcement
<dal2>
Hi, I'm about to pre-order and trying to decide on the modem variant
<dal2>
My use case is that, if all goes well, I'll be living in the US for another 3-4 years,
<dal2>
then moving out of the country, either Vietnam, somewhere in Europe, or the River Plate
<dal2>
The modem can be changed out, right?
<varu>
afaik yes they can be swapped; you'd buy two modems, one for US and one providing the greatest compatibility between the other places you listed (and how they rank in your priority/expectation list)
<ZetaR>
dal2: The modem can be changed on your order before the part gets ordered, but it isn't designed to be removed from the board and it could cause damage. There are some international variants.
<varu>
^ i may be of course wrong, i was under the impression a swap was physically possible later on, but i have not kept up to date in some time
<dal2>
ZetaR: oh okay. Let me look into the various countries then and see what they have
<ZetaR>
varu: I believe that what you have said is incorrect. Components are only designed to be reflowed once. It *could* be swapped out by very careful use of a heat gun, but it may cause damage to the board.
<varu>
ahh, the modem gets soldered on? i was under the impression it'd be an addon module
<varu>
i haven't looked at the docs for some time
<DocScrutinizer51>
no, modem alas can't get swapped
<ZetaR>
varu: Its relationship to the system is as-if it is a USB dongle (compared to tight integration of processing and memory), but its physical relationship is that it gets soldered to the board.
<dal2>
How do I determine if LTE US (USA freq set) works in various foreign countries?
<DocScrutinizer51>
yes, modem needs to get soldered
<dal2>
various non-US countries I should say :)
<ZetaR>
dal2: There are links under the table on http://neo900.org/faq that may be helpful.
<DocScrutinizer51>
no idea since this is a *hacker* camp, you don't do logins here
<jonsger>
^^
<DocScrutinizer51>
I don't want to see my 'password' and business data in a live footage of the latest exploit tomorrow
<dal2>
bbs
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<DocScrutinizer51>
anyway still around 300 minus saome total
<jonsger>
how is the feedback on the camp
<DocScrutinizer51>
excellent
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<Arch-TK>
DocScrutinizer51: what about feedback about the price?
<DocScrutinizer51>
well, there's always feedback that's more or less detailed and elaborated, motivated by reducing the cost. And after 5 to 30 min I usually answer "and that's exactly what Jolla|Samsung are already doing and selling"
<DocScrutinizer51>
well, there's always feedback that's more or less detailed and elaborated, motivated by reducing the cost. And after 5 to 30 min I usually answer "and that's exactly what Jolla|Samsung are already doing and selling"
<DocScrutinizer51>
there's no use in discussing 'the price', you could discuss technical aspects that might or might not change the pricetag
<Arch-TK>
I got my N900 yesterday and it's already doing far better in doing what I want it to do than my current normal android phone. The only issue is the web browser... I'm sure there's a good replacement web browser. In any case. I would very much be interested in something which is basically supposed to be a more powerful more versatile N900. I think I might pay the downpayment next month, then pay 50€ a month
<Arch-TK>
until I either reach 800€ or the thing gets finished :P
<Arch-TK>
DocScrutinizer51: I don't really care all that much about the price. To be honest it could be lower, but I understand the reasons. I'm just worried about negative feedback about the price which could suggest that you guys might not get the amount of pre-payments you need to continue with the project.
<DocScrutinizer51>
we had basically very little (almost none) negative feedback
<Arch-TK>
That's good.
<Arch-TK>
This talk... Was it recorded / will it be up for watching anywhere?
<DocScrutinizer51>
thode are hackers here who build stuff themselves, they understand the calculation
<DocScrutinizer51>
of course its recorded and will be online soonish
<Arch-TK>
Is it streamed? (I guess not)
<Arch-TK>
s/Is it/Are the talks/
<DocScrutinizer51>
it been streamed aiui
<DocScrutinizer51>
as silly as it may sound: I'm only partly online here. No full sized own workstation, poor cellular, dangerous WLAN and LAN...
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<Arch-TK>
DocScrutinizer51: I'm guessing the talk was in English right?
<DocScrutinizer51>
yes
<Arch-TK>
Great. I only speak Polish, English and a bit of French.