<whitequark>
use classify_type and then accessors for your specific case
<whitequark>
(vector_size and element_type in this case)
<artagnon>
Okay, thanks.
<artagnon>
Hm, it looks like I'll need multiple matchers.
<artagnon>
Forking off one classifier won't cut it.
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<sagotch>
how to use `module M = This.Module.Has.A.Very.Long.Name` in mli files?
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<adrien>
iirc you cannot
<def`>
sagotch: its possible in 4.02
<adrien>
(I wish someone would states you can)
<adrien>
\o/
<def`>
sagotch: the workaround in <=4.01 is module M : module type of struct include This.Module.Has.A.Very.Long.Name end
<sagotch>
Thanks for the the workaround!
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<ygrek>
def`, and in 4.02 the former would describe module alias?
<def`>
ygrek: yes
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<sagotch>
And is there a way to share a signature between function? like `val add : val sub : ....`
<sagotch>
(long signature 10 binary operations using it...)
<def`>
define a type alias abve ?
<def`>
above*
<sagotch>
*without having to implement a dummy type in ml file?
<def`>
then no
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<sagotch>
ok
<def`>
(isn't that the very purpose of an alias, to reference the same definition in different places?)
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<sagotch>
Seems like type aliases do not really like polymorphic variants: http://pastebin.com/5kb5wAWw . The key here is to keep the "[<" part, how to do that?
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<hhugo>
type 'a t = ([< `A | `B ] as 'a) other_t
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<sagotch>
hum... yes actually pretty simple, thank you
<ggole>
If you don't need the < you can get away without the variable
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<sagotch>
I need that < ;-)
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<j__>
why can't i use let inside a method? im getting syntax error without a return value: http://pastebin.com/KQeznyX2
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<sagotch>
What are you trying to do
<sagotch>
let x = 1 in `nothing` has no sens
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<j__>
i know, its a test file, i can't define anything in the real method too
<j__>
same error
<j__>
and if i add any return value such as () or 'x' it works fine... dunno if its a bug or anything
<j__>
or is it somekind of `dead code elimination` so compiler removes the whole statement?
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<j__>
oh yeah it seems to be... i added printf for x and it works now... strange
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<sagotch>
where did you add it?
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<j__>
right after let x = 1 in instead of ()
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<sagotch>
let _ = let x = 1 is invalid, and is also what you are trying to do...
<sagotch>
I do not see the problem, actually
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<j__>
im a n00b
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<sagotch>
ok, well it has to "return" something, even if it is unit.
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<j__>
fine, i think i understand. thanks
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<jerith>
Is there a way to get oasis to run a custom command for a particular build section?
<jerith>
I want to build and run the executable needed for generating the code that will be built by the next library.
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<Drup>
there are various Pre and PostCommand hooks
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<jerith>
Drup: Those apply to the whole package, though.
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<jerith>
This needs to happen between building the code generator and building the generated code.
<jerith>
Unless I'm missing something?
<Drup>
then separate the generator and the generated in two packages
<Drup>
or don't use oasis
<Drup>
oasis is not very well suited for code generation in the middle of the build process
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<jerith>
I think the generator does belong in its own package.
<jerith>
Thanks.
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<Drup>
jerith: I think whitequark did something slightly similar for his C bindings
<Drup>
but you will probably need some custom ocamlbuild rule, I think
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<oriba>
I want to have a complete documentation of all labltk-functions. The Makefile in the labltk-dir does not offer a doc-target. How to make such a documentation easily?
<Drup>
which build system does labltk use ?
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<oriba>
It's part of the ocaml-distri
<Drup>
oh yeah, it's separated for the 4.02 only
<oriba>
the basic stuff is documented in the official documentation, but not all widgets.
<oriba>
how to make that documentation (anf change the creation)?
<Drup>
I don't know :x
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<oriba>
:(
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<oriba>
how to get the width / height of a widget?
<oriba>
in labltk
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<seliopou>
anybody tried installing ocamlfind.1.5.1 using the 4.01 compiler? I'm getting errors involving the 'bytes' package
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<oriba>
it seems like some compile-time-checks have been weakened
<oriba>
I did use Cli.opt.url_list and got a warning on non-visibility
<oriba>
when changing to Cli.opt.Cli.url_list the warning goes away
<oriba>
I remember in older OCaml-verions this would have been a compile time error
<oriba>
Which options has been changed in this way, how can I say the compiler to throw an error instead of a warning here?
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<Drup>
oriba: it's record disambiguation
<Drup>
and consider how absurd Cli.opt.Cli.url_list look like if you find that a bad thing :p
<Drup>
(but you can mark warning 40 as fatal if you don't like it)
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<oriba>
I could open the module of course. Nevertheless thats what it was in odler OCaml-versions. So the absurd looking thing is the old OCaml way
<Drup>
yes
* oriba
switched to 4.x just recently, used 3.11.something for too long
<Drup>
(personnally, I tend to disable warning 40, because I like this behavior)
<jerith>
Hrm. Apparently empty record types are illegal.
<oriba>
how do I switch this behaviour
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<Drup>
oriba: which way ?
<Drup>
jerith: that's called unit :D
<oriba>
Drup, either way ;-)
<Drup>
oriba: -w @40 to make it fatal
<Drup>
-w -40 to disable it
<oriba>
ah, ok
<oriba>
thanks
* jerith
tries to decide whether to add an extra field to each record or special-case empty messages.
<Drup>
(check that it's indeed 40, I tend to mess this numbers)
<jerith>
I think the former, just because special cases can be problematic.
<Drup>
jerith: I would to the empty special case
<Drup>
do*
<oriba>
?? ocamlopt: unknown option `-w @40'.
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<oriba>
ah, now I have it working... used wrong variable in OCamlMakefile.
<oriba>
hmhh... does not work
<oriba>
maybe again wrong OCamlMakefile-variable
<oriba>
but it is the warning 40, the compiler reports the number
<jerith>
Drup: You were right. The special case ended up being easier and cleaner.
<jerith>
My code generator is done! \o/
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<jerith>
Although I'll probably need to tweak it later when I discover that I need different code.
<oriba>
where to add warning-behaviour switches in OCamlMakefile?
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<jerith>
Now I should write some tests for it.
<jerith>
(Yes, tests are supposed to happen first. I didn't know enough OCaml to write useful tests when I started.)
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<oriba>
does it make sense to switch from OCamlMakefile o ocamlbuild? or is it similar in the features it provides?
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<flux>
if OCamlMakefile works for you, go with it :)
<flux>
if you want to fig..learn new things, switch to ocamlbuild!
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<andy_____>
anyone going through real world ocaml?
<andy_____>
I have some noob questions
<bitbckt>
it's best to simply ask.
<andy_____>
ok, is there a way to print arbitrary expressions from a program, like utop does?
<def`>
andy_____: no.
<andy_____>
the book recommends utop, which shows you the value/type of every epression
<andy_____>
isn't utop written in ocaml itself?
<def`>
yes
<def`>
but it uses the compiler, which is not available in programs
<andy_____>
hmm ok
<andy_____>
well i am stuck typing relatively large programs into utop so I can see all the types
<andy_____>
then manually copy/paste into a text file to run
<ggole>
Put the code in the source file first?
<seliopou>
What's the best way to work around the removal of of_lazy from async_extra?
<seliopou>
seems like duplicating that handles log levels is pretty much the only way to do it
<andy_____>
yeah it's still a lot of copy/paste. does utop have a "source"? like to load an .ml file in? I tried #require "foo" where foo.ml is in the current dir
<Drup>
andy_____: if it's just to see the types, I suggest you use merlin
<def`>
andy_____: #use
<jeroud>
Merlin is <3
<andy_____>
ok thanks for the suggestion, that may work
<Drup>
and iirc, it's #load to use some source file
<Drup>
my bad, it's #use
<Drup>
#load is for compiled stuff
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<andy_____>
Drup: thanks, I got #use to work
<andy_____>
that helps a lot
<def`>
#mod_use if you want what you're loading to be in a submodule
<andy_____>
ok yeah #use prints out all the types in the .ml file as it loads, which is just what I want
<andy_____>
better than manually putting print statements in the source
<Drup>
merlin would really be more appropriate for that, or just calling "ocamlc -i" on the file :p
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<vincom2>
Drup: whoa, TIL about #mod_use
<vincom2>
that's awesome
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<Drup>
def`* ;)
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<Anarchos>
andy_____ you should really consider "ocaml -i"
<jerith>
"ocamlc -i", isn't it?
<Drup>
yes
<jerith>
"ocaml -i" gives me an error.
<andy_____>
ok, I will try ocamlc -i at some point; the real world ocaml book uses wrappers so you never run ocamlc or ocamlbuild even
<andy_____>
i have to add some more flags to get it to compile, which shouldn't be hard
<rks`>
we can help with that if needs be
<vincom2>
andy_____: you'll probably have to do something like "ocamlfind ocamlc -i -package core"
<andy_____>
vincom2: yup, that worked, thanks.
<andy_____>
(needs -thread too)
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<andy_____>
that is pretty much the same output as #use
<def`>
without the side effects
<andy_____>
ah i see, yes
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<artagnon>
How do I get a backtrace from my program, which terminates at an assertion failure at the LLVM bindings?
<bitbckt>
OCAMLRUNPARAM=b
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<artagnon>
bitbckt: That didn't quite help.
<artagnon>
The assertion failure is inside the LLVM cpp files.
<bitbckt>
ah, well ocaml isn't going to have that stack...
<bitbckt>
I'd load in gdb and let the trap fire.
<bitbckt>
or lldb, or whatever you use.
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<artagnon>
gdb or lldb it is then.
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<artagnon>
bitbckt: Thanks, lldb works nicely for the task.
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<triyo>
I'm new to ocaml and have a small difficulty installing a lib I need via OPAM. Lib name is humane-re. Error I get is: [ERROR] humane-re is not a valid versioned package name