<xiangfu>
wolfspraul: from the kernel config file: usr/Kconfig line:133, lzma is better
<larsc>
lzma gives better compression, but is slower. so if you have plenty of space it might not be the best option
<foxtrot>
hi
<foxtrot>
can I hook a usb keyboard to the nn?
<wolfspraul>
foxtrot: no, the NanoNote only has a USB client controller, not USB host
<foxtrot>
so no ext keyboard options?
<wolfspraul>
foxtrot: no I don't think so
<wolfspraul>
unless you hook a whole notebook to it, and ssh into the NanoNote :-)
<foxtrot>
and there is no expansion on it to ever support a keyboard?
<wolfspraul>
foxtrot: on the Ben NanoNote - no. The expansion comes from the microSD slot (SDIO capable), USB client (gadgets)
<wolfspraul>
even if theoretically something is imaginable via SDIO, it doesn't work today or in the near future
<foxtrot>
should i probably wait for the next version
<foxtrot>
i was planning on ordering one today
<wolfspraul>
if you really need an external keyboard, then yes I don't know how to do that with the Ben today, or how to encourage you to buy a Ben anyway
<wolfspraul>
maybe some others here in the chat have more ideas for you, but I don't
<wolfspraul>
foxtrot: what did you plan to do with the Ben?
<foxtrot>
assembly dev
<wolfspraul>
to do MIPS assembly? You can ssh into the Ben from an Eee PC :-)
<wolfspraul>
take the Eee PC as your external keyboard
<foxtrot>
indeed
<foxtrot>
but it lowers the 'wow' factor
<foxtrot>
since i cant bring my keyboard to an internet cafe
<foxtrot>
i wonder how hard it is to type on it
<wolfspraul>
type on the Ben? most people like the keyboard, but of course it's not full-size
<wolfspraul>
for me personally it wouldn't be suitable for programming
<wolfspraul>
executing prepared scripts, sure that works well
<wolfspraul>
but writing whole programs? nah... :-)
<foxtrot>
i mean im using an 8.9" eeepc right now
<foxtrot>
im known for typing on tiny keyboards :)
<foxtrot>
despite my gargantuan hands
<wolfspraul>
no the ben nanonote is a lot smaller!
<wolfspraul>
compare it to a blackberry keyboard
<wolfspraul>
you cannot do real programming on that keyboard, I would say
<wolfspraul>
unless you can do it on a blackberry too...
<foxtrot>
much like the theory of computer science
<foxtrot>
if given the time, anything is typable :)
<wolfspraul>
having said that, most people like the keyboard, I think it's one of the mechanically best part of the product
<wolfspraul>
s/part/parts/
<wolfspraul>
gotta go, late here...
<wolfspraul>
'night
<Xakh>
yo dudes.
<Xakh>
so, what's new in the world of the nanonote?
<Xakh>
also, how do you set the time?
<larsc>
Xakh: date
<Xakh>
ok
<Xakh>
also
<Xakh>
I changed the theme in gmenu2x just now
<Xakh>
and now when it boots
<Xakh>
instead of going to gui
<Xakh>
it acts like it's starting
<Xakh>
then the screen blanks
<Xakh>
and doesn't work
<Xakh>
and now i tried to reset it and the screen went white
<Xakh>
and is staying white
<Xakh>
anyone had these problems?
<Xakh>
hello,
<Xakh>
?
<Xakh>
is anyone here?
<Xakh>
jlmoko: you have any experience troubleshooting the nanos?
<jlmoko>
no but I can try
<Xakh>
ok
<Xakh>
when i changed my gmenu settings, it messed up
<Xakh>
when i boot it acts like it's going to goto gmenu
<Xakh>
then the screen goes black and stops responding
<Xakh>
should i just reflash?
<jlmoko>
could you conect to the nano via usb network
<Xakh>
no, i can't even get it to stay working
<Xakh>
it runs fine for the first minute
<Xakh>
then even if i ctrl alt f1 to terminal
<Xakh>
it blank screens
<Xakh>
and I'm on my phone so i don't have access to the tools to reflash it atm
<Xakh>
and i busted a pencil in the reset
<Xakh>
so it keeps resetting
<Xakh>
gotta fish that out with a paperclip in a minute
<Xakh>
not a good day thus far for me...
<Xakh>
you think there's a way to save it, or would reflashing be my only option?
<jlmoko>
on the openwrt initial screen can you get a shell just pressing enter  & ctl L
<Xakh>
i can't get it to boot right now
<Xakh>
something is stuck against the reset button
<Xakh>
i get a break in a few minutes, and then i'll grab a paperclip
<Xakh>
then i'll try to  use ctrl l
<Xakh>
just looking for possible solutions
<Xakh>
is there a way to manually edit the gmenu prefs?
<Xakh>
like with nano?
<jlmoko>
you can also try another chvt ( looks like there arere 8 of them
<Xakh>
like with ctrl alt and the f keys, right?
<Xakh>
because when i went to different ones the screen still blanked
<jlmoko>
yes , also you could edit the gmenu confiles with vi
<jlmoko>
or nano or joe no emacs :(
<Xakh>
alright
<Xakh>
still can't get it booting
<Xakh>
aaaahhh
<Xakh>
i hope i didn't brick it
<jlmoko>
but outside gmenux only alt f1-f8 is necesary
<jlmoko>
you see the openwrt screen splash
<Xakh>
no, it doesn't even turn on right now
<Xakh>
i'm hoping that's due to the reset button
<Xakh>
and not it being permanently broken
<Xakh>
hm
<Xakh>
when i plug it to a power source the red light comes on
<Xakh>
so it's at least partly working
<zear>
Xakh, sounds like the bootloader wasn't flashed properly
<zear>
it happens to me every time i try to flash the device with the flash script
<Xakh>
but it worked yesterday
<zear>
do it manually and it won't fail
<zear>
oh
<jlmoko>
I 'll dupt it is broken but you may end using the carbonized ruber
<zear>
anyway, you can't brick a nanonote
<Xakh>
you promise?
<zear>
it has a system-on-chip that is responsible for usb boot mode
<Xakh>
awesome.
<zear>
so even if you damaged the whole nand you could still switch it to the usbboot and flash nand again
<Xakh>
i think something's stuck in the reset button though
<Xakh>
like, holding the button down
<Xakh>
so would that be causing that?
<zear>
Xakh, nah, holding reset constantly makes the screen to turn white
<Xakh>
it did that
<Xakh>
then it stopped turning on
<zear>
battery
<zear>
might be completely discharged
<zear>
can you boot the system without the battery?
<Xakh>
no
<zear>
hmm.. can you short the pins and switch the device into the usbboot mode?
<Xakh>
i also have none of the extra parts
<zear>
and flash u-boot again
<Xakh>
i don't have the rubber, i'm stuck somewhere for the next hour
<zear>
if it's not turning on, but the red light comes on it means u-boot fails to boot
<zear>
ah
<zear>
well, you could use the aluminum foil
<Xakh>
also, i'm using an android irc client, and don't have my laptop
<Xakh>
my troubleshooting's hard...
<Xakh>
even with all this
<Xakh>
i did do a little nanoproject though
<Xakh>
hardware based, not software, though
<Xakh>
i made a surge protected charger for the nn
<Xakh>
that also doubles as a ups
<Xakh>
i can tell you guys how to make one, if you'd like...
<Xakh>
well i thought it was cool.
<Xakh>
and I'm alone again...
<Xakh>
alright
<Xakh>
got the pencil lead out
<Xakh>
and it booted!
<Xakh>
however it still blanks after the openwrt screen
<Xakh>
i'm gonna reflash
<xakh>
to reflash I just sudo and run the .sh file, right?
<zear>
xakh, yes, but i'd recommend the manual flashing
<xakh>
alright
<xakh>
how do I go about doing that?
<zear>
as it seems .sh messes up your u-boot (like it does with mine nanonote)
<zear>
it's just a couple of simple commands
<zear>
let me point you to the right page on the wiki
<xakh>
well mine only messed up after I reconfigured gmenu2x, but still, manual flashing looks good
<xakh>
zear: do you know how to modify .ubi files?
<xakh>
okay, flashed the second part
<xakh>
and flashed it twice
<xakh>
to be sure
<xakh>
now for the rootfs
<zear>
xakh, nah, i know nothing about .ubi format
<xakh>
dang
<zear>
but i'm sure some other guys on this channel know about it
<xakh>
oh well
<zear>
as for the rootfs, flashing takes a while, so i don't know if you want to flash it twice :)
<xakh>
the cp command works well
<zear>
nice wallpaper :)
<xakh>
I thought so
<zear>
you can change your wallpaper in gmenu2x btw
<xakh>
:P
<zear>
no need to manually overwrite the files
<xakh>
I know, it was on the nano
<xakh>
the cp command takes too long
<xakh>
hey frank
<xakh>
btw I got the net working
<FrankBlues>
excellent!
<xakh>
then I changed a bunch of settings and bricked meself, so now I'm reflashing
<xakh>
oh btw, the google home page is a playable game of pac man today
<xakh>
I think the coin command is 3
<xakh>
if not it's 1 or 2
<zear>
xakh, oh it's playable?
<xakh>
since I hit those and it let me play
<xakh>
yeah
<xakh>
awesome right>
<xakh>
?
<zear>
yep :)
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
rootfs is almost done flashing
<xakh>
these things are indestructable
<FrankBlues>
Mine had "insert coin" where the random link button usually is
<xakh>
hah
<xakh>
pacman claims another victim
<xakh>
oop, there you are
<zear>
xakh, it even has a 2 player mode :D
<xakh>
I know, bad ass right?
<FrankBlues>
argh, trying to add a server in irssi, not change servers
<zear>
xakh, totally
<xakh>
hey, so if anyone's interested, I designed a Q&D surge protected charger for the nanonote
<xakh>
I can show you guys the parts necessary to make it
<zear>
what's a surge protected charger?
<xakh>
basically, the power is regulated
<xakh>
so if there's a power surge and it's not plugged into a surge protector (which is one of those things that you plug in with all the extra outlets)
<xakh>
it'll keep the power surge from reaching the nn
<zear>
of course parts/schemes/howtos are welcome :)
<xakh>
well, it's pretty simple
<zear>
as long as they have an open license, feel free to upload them on the wiki