<tuxbrain>
hi foxtrot, just a quick answer... there is no mouse :P
<foxtrot>
touchscreen?
<tuxbrain>
nop
<foxtrot>
hmm
<tuxbrain>
why you need them?
<foxtrot>
im... not sure
<foxtrot>
why dont i need them? :)
<tuxbrain>
becouse you don't have it :P
<tuxbrain>
happiness is the lack of needs
<tuxbrain>
jokes apart the idea is to porting apps on nano that use the keys to manage it , and if for any reason there is a need of mouse, we can simulate it with the arrow keys.
<foxtrot>
true
<foxtrot>
hows the GUI work
<tuxbrain>
the  gmenu2x (the application launcher we are using now) has a little messy keymap heritage of his origins (the console gp2x32, Dingoo,....) but you get used quickly, to select an app the arrow keys, to lauch it "x", to change section "q" and "p", contextual menu "esc", help "z", settings "enter"
<tuxbrain>
and then each app has his own key usage
<tuxbrain>
gmu the music player is the best I think due it keymap has been designed with bnn in mind
<foxtrot>
does it have bash?
<tuxbrain>
In openwrt you  have by default  a light version called ash, but it works the same way in debian by default you have bash
<foxtrot>
i want to do MIPS asm dev on it
<foxtrot>
so i need vim
<foxtrot>
bluefish would be siiick but i doubt itd run
<tuxbrain>
for development inside the ben I recomend debian
<tuxbrain>
I'm compiling for atmel micros in the nano :D
<foxtrot>
im writing code for sgimips in asm
<foxtrot>
im hoping i can use the nanonote for that
<tuxbrain>
I don't know why not
<mirko>
hey
<mirko>
anybody of openmotic here?
<mirko>
vegyraupe, do you know who is involved in the openmotic project (except carlos)?
<vegyraupe>
hey mirko
<vegyraupe>
I would check the ML, one sec
<vegyraupe>
Juan Camilo Chaparro
<vegyraupe>
but I don't have any details on anything :)
<mirko>
vegyraupe, ok, thanks
<mirko>
so i'll write to the mailing list
<mirko>
vegyraupe, do you know his handle in irc?
<vegyraupe>
mirko: nope sry
<rafa>
wolfspraul: Nanonote arrived! :)
<wolfspraul>
rafa: ha, great!
<rafa>
yeah! so happy here
<wolfspraul>
save some of the energy for the frustrations that will surely come... :-)
<rafa>
why?
<wolfspraul>
unless you are like David who can somehow stay happy no matter how hopeless things look around him :-)
<rafa>
frustrations?
<wolfspraul>
u-boot problems, USB boot pins, just general learning about the device
<rafa>
I usually try to stay happy no matter how near we are of the end of this world Ã:)
<wolfspraul>
he, OK. Like David. Great, then you can master anything!
<rafa>
wolfspraul: you can see me here happy with my NN when I got yesterday really bad news (my company canceled my Linux project because they can not pay my salary anymore.  And you already know how few Linux projects Arg has to get a job there)
<rafa>
so I will survive whn uboot problems appears ;)
<rafa>
tuxbrain: wolfspraul ;) he, thanks for your words :) ..
<rafa>
wolfspraul: yeah, there are some ways to do cool business with free software and Linux, just that I am a really bad business man :) I prefer to get a job as Linux developer or consultant (Linux admin or to help people to decide which hardware/software to use and how to use it ;) )
<rafa>
so I am comfortable as employee. Perhaps I woult try a tuxbrain here if I can do/support the Linux software side of the gadgets to offer ;)
<wolfspraul>
rafa: tuxbrain Argentina, that would be awesome
<FrankBlues>
the script logs to ~/.qi/nanonote/ben/latest/log.txt, otherwise it is pretty quiet while flashing
<xakh>
nice
<xakh>
hmm.
<FrankBlues>
heh
<xakh>
it said command not found
<FrankBlues>
did you install xburst-tools?
<xakh>
oops, hadn't given it permission to run on its own
<xakh>
no I didn't
<xakh>
should I have?
<FrankBlues>
yees, need those first
<xakh>
it's reflashing....
<xakh>
is that bad?
<FrankBlues>
oh?
<xakh>
yeah
<xakh>
says it's fetching it
<FrankBlues>
you may want to check the log file
<xakh>
did I brick my nanonote?
<xakh>
okay
<xakh>
it says it's downloading right now
<FrankBlues>
it will fetch the nanonote's software first
<xakh>
oh ok
<FrankBlues>
you pretty much can't brick it - usbboot will always work
<xakh>
sweet.
<xakh>
also I'm installing xburst-tools now
<FrankBlues>
kk
<xakh>
gotta love uni internets
<xakh>
anyway, so it's downloading the other thing still
<xakh>
should I run it again, just in case, since I have the tools now?
<FrankBlues>
I'd leave it be... it will flash the nanonote as soon as it is done downloading
<FrankBlues>
(as long as xburst-tools are installed)
<xakh>
ok, says it's flashing
<xakh>
says it's done.
<xakh>
wait gonna install quake from the demo script too
<CongoZombie>
yo
<CongoZombie>
anyone here have any experience with the AIC?
<FrankBlues>
do the quake install after usbboot
<CongoZombie>
in the jz
<FrankBlues>
don't think you can install it until it has booted normally. then you can scp it over.
<xakh>
oh ok
<xakh>
ohhhh
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
so now I put the battery in and reboot?
<FrankBlues>
yep!
<xakh>
oooohhhhh
<FrankBlues>
yeah?
<xakh>
neat.
<xakh>
now, in gmenu2x
<xakh>
how do I get to settings?
<xakh>
it has an L and an R
<FrankBlues>
l=q r=p
<xakh>
thanks man
<FrankBlues>
no problem!
<xakh>
it says I can overclock
<xakh>
should I?
<FrankBlues>
er... only you can answer that...
<xakh>
oh yeah.
<xakh>
so it's at 300
<FrankBlues>
I wouldn't, but don't think you'll need to
<xakh>
okay
<xakh>
cool.
<xakh>
okay, now what do I do to move stuff in?
<FrankBlues>
either copy using sd or get networking to work and scp stuff over
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
is networking hard?
<FrankBlues>
not really. just follow the wiki article on usb networking and it should work
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
hmm
<xakh>
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
<xakh>
even with sudo
<xakh>
says access denied
<FrankBlues>
what distro are you using?
<xakh>
ubuntu
<xakh>
I know, nooby
<FrankBlues>
me too, I remember this problem... halfasec
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
also, how do I get out of gmenu?
<FrankBlues>
you have to change an app so it won't reload gmenu, then run that app and exit
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
....
<FrankBlues>
edit /etc/sysctl.conf ... uncomment the forwarding line
<xakh>
I don't have a text editor...
<FrankBlues>
gedit?
<FrankBlues>
nano?
<xakh>
oh
<xakh>
on desktop
<xakh>
wait
<xakh>
how then?
<FrankBlues>
yes, sorry, on desktop
<FrankBlues>
sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
<xakh>
Wait
<xakh>
what?
<FrankBlues>
take the # away from the net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 line
<xakh>
how does that get rid of gmenu?
<xakh>
oh oh ok
<FrankBlues>
oh, sorry, still on networking
<xakh>
gotcha!
<FrankBlues>
try ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console on the nn
<xakh>
I did
<xakh>
then it tries to load gmenu
<Frank_Blues>
Flargh...
<xakh>
okay, got rid of the line
<Frank_Blues>
You want the line, just not the # in front of it.
<xakh>
sorry that's what I meant
<Frank_Blues>
kk
<Frank_Blues>
ctrl-x will exit and save. Reboot and you'll have ip forwarding enabled on your laptop.
<xakh>
oh I gotta reboot
<xakh>
ok
<xakh>
brb
<xakh>
alright!
<xakh>
back.
<xakh>
so now it's all plugged in
<xakh>
will it "just work" so to speak?
<xakh>
by the way it still says access denied on that command
<xakh>
Frank_Blues: you still there?
<Frank_Blues>
Yeah...
<Frank_Blues>
Sorry...
<xakh>
np
<xakh>
So, what's next?
<Frank_Blues>
if you "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" do you get a "1" ?
<Frank_Blues>
(on the laptop)
<xakh>
yup
<Frank_Blues>
Okay, so the whole echo "1" > /proc... so on is now unnecessary.
<xakh>
ok
<Frank_Blues>
Do you use wifi or ethernet?
<xakh>
ethernet
<xakh>
so the etho part is right
<xakh>
oh, since I rebooted
<xakh>
should I redo all the previous commands?
<Frank_Blues>
Yeah
<Frank_Blues>
And anytime the nanonote reboots, you'll need to redo the "ifconfig usb0" command on your laptop - after you see the ubuntu network manager give up (you get the auto usb0 disconnected message)
<Frank_Blues>
(or if you connect / disconnect the nanonote)
<xakh>
hm. there's a difference between the output of ifconfig here and there
<Frank_Blues>
Mmm?
<xakh>
TX bytes:4941 (4.9 KB)
<xakh>
instead of 0
<Frank_Blues>
I wouldn't worry...
<xakh>
ok
<Frank_Blues>
The ubuntu network manager utility tries to mess with usb0 on a regular basis...
<Frank_Blues>
can you ping the nn?
<xakh>
yup
<Frank_Blues>
Woo!
<xakh>
okay, done all the nat config stuff
<xakh>
save for that one command you said I didn't need
<Frank_Blues>
You should be able to get to the internet from the nn