<xiangfu> foxtrot: but we can not use that mouse.
<foxtrot> where is it
<foxtrot> hi
<tuxbrain> hi foxtrot, just a quick answer... there is no mouse :P
<foxtrot> touchscreen?
<tuxbrain> nop
<foxtrot> hmm
<tuxbrain> why you need them?
<foxtrot> im... not sure
<foxtrot> why dont i need them? :)
<tuxbrain> becouse you don't have it :P
<tuxbrain> happiness is the lack of needs
<tuxbrain> jokes apart the idea is to porting apps on nano that use the keys to manage it , and if for any reason there is a need of mouse, we can simulate it with the arrow keys.
<foxtrot> true
<foxtrot> hows the GUI work
<tuxbrain> the  gmenu2x (the application launcher we are using now) has a little messy keymap heritage of his origins (the console gp2x32, Dingoo,....) but you get used quickly, to select an app the arrow keys, to lauch it "x", to change section "q" and "p", contextual menu "esc", help "z", settings "enter"
<tuxbrain> and then each app has his own key usage
<tuxbrain> gmu the music player is the best I think due it keymap has been designed with bnn in mind
<foxtrot> does it have bash?
<tuxbrain> In openwrt you  have by default  a light version called ash, but it works the same way in debian by default you have bash
<foxtrot> i want to do MIPS asm dev on it
<foxtrot> so i need vim
<foxtrot> bluefish would be siiick but i doubt itd run
<tuxbrain> for development inside the ben I recomend debian
<tuxbrain> I'm compiling for atmel micros in the nano :D
<foxtrot> im writing code for sgimips in asm
<foxtrot> im hoping i can use the nanonote for that
<tuxbrain> I don't know why not
<mirko> hey
<mirko> anybody of openmotic here?
<mirko> vegyraupe, do you know who is involved in the openmotic project (except carlos)?
<vegyraupe> hey mirko
<vegyraupe> I would check the ML, one sec
<vegyraupe> Juan Camilo Chaparro
<vegyraupe> but I don't have any details on anything :)
<mirko> vegyraupe, ok, thanks
<mirko> so i'll write to the mailing list
<mirko> vegyraupe, do you know his handle in irc?
<vegyraupe> mirko: nope sry
<rafa> wolfspraul: Nanonote arrived! :)
<wolfspraul> rafa: ha, great!
<rafa> yeah! so happy here
<wolfspraul> save some of the energy for the frustrations that will surely come... :-)
<rafa> why?
<wolfspraul> unless you are like David who can somehow stay happy no matter how hopeless things look around him :-)
<rafa> frustrations?
<wolfspraul> u-boot problems, USB boot pins, just general learning about the device
<rafa> I usually try to stay happy no matter how near we are of the end of this world Ã:)
<wolfspraul> he, OK. Like David. Great, then you can master anything!
<rafa> wolfspraul: you can see me here happy with my NN when I got yesterday really bad news (my company canceled my Linux project because they can not pay my salary anymore.  And you already know how few Linux projects Arg has to get a job there)
<rafa> so I will survive whn uboot problems appears ;)
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: cleanup mmc driver. remove the mmc_protocol.h http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/d85249d
<tuxbrain> rafa that's the spirit :)
<rafa> tuxbrain: yeah ;) I need to learn from you and to open a tuxbrain 2 here in Arg :)
<wolfspraul> rafa: wow sorry to hear that
<wolfspraul> I think there is still way too little Linux/free software business out there.
<wolfspraul> it's growing, but man those are hard earned dollars
<wolfspraul> much much much much easier to make money with proprietary software
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [xburst][u-boot] add ext2 command http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9448f6f
<tuxbrain> hehehe rafa, run run safe your health run and don't look back, here are dragons!!!
<qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding new SAKC version, including LED circuit. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/26b0c73
<rafa> tuxbrain: wolfspraul ;) he, thanks for your words :) ..
<rafa> wolfspraul: yeah, there are some ways to do cool business with free software and Linux, just that I am a really bad business man :) I prefer to get a job as Linux developer or consultant (Linux admin or to help people to decide which hardware/software to use and how to use it ;) )
<rafa> so I am comfortable as employee. Perhaps I woult try a tuxbrain here if I can do/support the Linux software side of the gadgets to offer ;)
<wolfspraul> rafa: tuxbrain Argentina, that would be awesome
<wolfspraul> 'night everybody
<wolfspraul> mirko: do you know the OpenMotic wiki pages? http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/OpenMotic
<wolfspraul> I think some of your questions might be answered there.
<mirko> wolfspraul, yes
<mirko> wolfspraul, i read through
<wolfspraul> ah OK
<mirko> however i didn't get actually yet, what openmotic is trying to be :) (UI? home-control? picture-frame-frontend?)
<FrankBlues> waves
<AndroUser> hallo!
<Xakh> I have a nanonote on the way, and I was just wondering about a few things.
<Xakh> so, here we go!
<Xakh> can i use a usb mouse?
<tuxbrain> Xakh: no
<Xakh> and how well is the debian install working? can i get to a graphical interface (screen, byobu, etc)
<Xakh> ok, glad i asked then.
<Xakh> obviously i don't want to run X
<tuxbrain> debian is running fine, screen working, byoubu I don't know what it is
<Xakh> crap, forgot my third question.
<Xakh> byobu's a fork of screen
<Xakh> i like it's hotkeys
<Xakh> *its
<tuxbrain> then I guess meanwhile is on debian repos is only matter to apt-get it :)
<zear> Xakh, you can't use any usb device, as the usb slot in the nanonote is not a host
<Xakh> ahhhhh, that makes sense! is there a way for me to hack one in?
<tuxbrain> Xakh:no
<zear> there's a next gen dev board with usb host
<Xakh> oh, and can i format a microsd card as swap, to get some extra ram?
<zear> yep, that should be possible
<zear> though would wear the card a bit
<tuxbrain> is the negative man and zear the positive one :P
<Xakh> if I put in a say, 2gb one, could I run X?
<zear> memory cards have a limited read/write cycle number
<Xakh> i know, but i have one i bought specifically to do that with.
<tuxbrain> you can run X even without it using kdrive as xorg server
<tuxbrain> sorry client
<zear> but nowadays you can buy cards with everlasting warranty, so who knows, maybe they could replace it if it was worn out :D
<Xakh> I know, but i was thinking running LXDE
<Xakh> so I'd need a bit of ram for a desktop env
<zear> x11 should run with just 32mb ram
<zear> it works with other devices that have 32
<zear> or even 16mb ram
<Xakh> sweet!
<zear> the main problem would be the screen size
<Xakh> eh, I got good eyes. I'm on IRC from my g1
<zear> all that boaders, bars and buttons would take 90% of the screen space :P
<zear> i have some experience with using X11 on a 640x320 res device
<Xakh> well, that's why i was going to use lxde, its taskbar is only about 20 px tall, and window decorations only 10 px
<zear> and most of the apps are really really hard to use because of the gui being too big for that res
<zear> and here we deal with 1/2 smaller res :P
<Xakh> ohh, I forgot about that.
<Xakh> I have a bunch of questions up on the talk page too
<Xakh> but I figured here would be a good spot to chat with people about this.
<Xakh> I mentioned I wanted one to a friend of mine, and he just bought one for me
<Xakh> it was sorta like whoa
<zear> :D
<Xakh> yeah, really excited, supposed to be here tomorrow
<zear> nanonote is a nice little device, but you must remember it has it's own limits
<tuxbrain> where are you from Xakh?
<Xakh> usa
<zear> i've seen some reviews in press that were complaining about it
<tuxbrain> ok :) wellcome to small lovely free devices world
<FrankBlues> I´m still figuring out what to use mine for (other than irc, heh)
<zear> because it can't run windows, normal desktop programs, etc etc
<Xakh> that's why it's so cool.
<tuxbrain> hahahaha windows!?
<zear> so when someone buys a nanonote he needs to think of it more in terms of a handheld calendar rather than a full feature laptop
<Xakh> because it can't
<zear> yes, i have no interest in x86 platform
<zear> or atom
<zear> because it uses windows
<Xakh> x86 is dying and fast.
<zear> well, it should have died a long time ago now
<Xakh> while I love my massive Linux gaming rig, I know it's on its way out
<zear> the only reason it didn't die yet is because all that games and apps for windows are x86 compatible
<Xakh> yup.
<zear> so windows can't just switch to arm or mips, or they'll lose the software support
<zear> but well, that's their problem. In linux world you can always recompile your apps :)
<Xakh> still, with 2gb RAM this thing'll be pretty fast, right?
<Xakh> not a full laptop
<zear> with 2gb ram - yes. With 2gb swap - nope
<Xakh> ah
<Xakh> well, faster?
<Xakh> i mean, microsd cards are pretty zippy, right?
<zear> there were 40gb drives in the '90s, but i never heard of someone making a 40GB swap on them and having a super fast computer :)
<Xakh> hah
<Xakh> true, but they weren't solid state
<zear> i don't know what is the max read/write speed limit of an SD card
<Xakh> i'll check.
<zear> but it's probably not even close to ram
<zear> i don't know much of ram, but i guess it works a bit differently, or else we'd use the 4GB nand for swap ;)
<zear> *2GB
<AndroUser> okaaay.
<AndroUser> so!
<Xakh> there we are.
<Xakh> max r/w: 10 mb/s, 1,000,000 rewrites.
<Xakh> on microsd
<Xakh> not bad
<Xakh> so, how would it do as swap?
<Xakh> oh, and is there any way to make the microsd slot act as a usb slot?
<Xakh> i saw that little wireless card do it
<Xakh> and does the nn come with the latest version of openwrt, or am i going to have to reflash it myself?
<Xakh> man, place be deaaad
<Xakh> I'll be back later
<FrankBlues> Xakh: reflashing is needed for newest openwrt
<Xakh> ok
<Xakh> the one it comes with
<Xakh> does it have gmenu
<Xakh> ?
<FrankBlues> gmenu?
<Xakh> the new frontend
<Xakh> gmenu2x
<FrankBlues> Yeah, though it is the first thing I get rid of on reflash
<Xakh> really? I think it looks neat.
<FrankBlues> Looks cool, but I do a lot more console stuff with the nn
<Xakh> does it have access to a terminal emu?
<FrankBlues> Like minicom?
<Xakh> in gmenu, i mean
<FrankBlues> Not by default
<Xakh> hmm.
<FrankBlues> I think you can ctrl-alt-f1 to a shell, iirc
<Xakh> I think my first nanoproject will be making gmenu a really useful front end for the nn
<Xakh> I'm getting mine in tomorrow, really excited.
<FrankBlues> I think I´d like to work out a reliable config backup script so I don´t have to keep rewriting everything when I reflash.
<Xakh> heh
<Xakh> basically, I wanna make the nn accessible, so that people won't be so scared of copyleft projects
<Xakh> make  a good frontend that works on any xburst system, so we could sell these as all sorts of stuff
<Xakh> holy crap nanonote came a day early
<Xakh> it's right here
<FrankBlues> Oooh!
<Xakh> okay so i turned it on
<Xakh> what do i do to start gmenu
<FrankBlues> Should autostart on boot if installed
<Xakh> it ain't
<FrankBlues> command is g2menux iirc
<FrankBlues> might need to reflash first
<tuxbrain> yes the firmware out of the box is a little old
<tuxbrain> you better reflash to the latest image
<tuxbrain> FrankBlues: +1 to this backup script
<FrankBlues> tuxbrain: I´ve got an old 256mb microsd I´ve beenusing to manually backup, but it isn´t eficient.
<FrankBlues> effiÂcient even
<FrankBlues> The irssi for nn has no script support?
<xakh> So I put a big question up on the talk page.
<xakh> This is one of my first electronic projects, so how do I reflash this thing?
<xakh> Hi there!
<xakh> so I'm up on my laptop
<xakh> how do I go about shorting this battery connector?
<xakh> or whatever you have to do to update
<FrankBlues> use the little button looking thing
<xakh> that came in the box?
<xakh> what do I do with it?
<FrankBlues> it fits perfectly over the contacts underneath
<xakh> there's only one...
<xakh> I'm gonna go grab it
<xakh> do I need anything else?
<FrankBlues> put it over the contacts in the battery compartment, hold it down while plugging in the usb.
<xakh> awesome!
<xakh> okay is it supposed to turn on then?
<FrankBlues> screen will remain blank
<xakh> edamn
<xakh> which way do I hold it?
<xakh> the little cup in on the brass, or the other way?
<FrankBlues> as if it were a pushbutton
<xakh> ok
<xakh> okay
<xakh> screen is blank
<xakh> now what?
<xakh> can I let go?
<FrankBlues> yes, let go
<xakh> okay
<xakh> my laptop's not detecting anything either
<xakh> is that normal?
<FrankBlues> do an lspci on the laptop
<xakh> ok
<xakh> holy crap lots of stuff
<FrankBlues> you should see a 601a:4740 line
<FrankBlues> with no hw description
<xakh> there's the output
<xakh> I don't see that thing you said
<FrankBlues> crap, lsusb, not lspci
<xakh> ahh
<xakh> I don't know what Acer's made here
<FrankBlues> if you don´t see the 601a line, you may need to try again
<xakh> crapppp
<FrankBlues> make sure not to use any hub in between the nn and your computer
<FrankBlues> you can do a "watch lsusb" to keep an eye out for the nn
<xakh> no hub, just a USB port
<FrankBlues> kk
<xakh> hmm
<xakh> well it detects when it turns on
<xakh> woo
<FrankBlues> got it?
<xakh> can I push the little brass tabs with my fingers?
<xakh> no, it turned on when I plugged it in
<xakh> and it thinks it's an ethernet port
<FrankBlues> they need to be shorted while it is off.
<xakh> I was just messing around with it, seeing if the connection itself worked
<xakh> but can I short it with my fingers?
<FrankBlues> ethernet over usb
<xakh> right
<xakh> that popped right up
<FrankBlues> I doubt it, but worth a shot.
<FrankBlues> If you can o
<xakh> if I can plug it with my fingers you mean?
<FrankBlues> position the button thingy right over the contacts it usually works
<xakh> and then I hold it down, right?
<FrankBlues> yep, hold it while connecting the usb cable
<FrankBlues> and keep it down
<xakh> could I use duct tape?
<xakh> just wondering, this thing seems to be shredding up the button
<FrankBlues> if it is conductive enough
<xakh> hmm
<xakh> if it's conductive enough, so can I use like, a small piece of wire?
<xakh> because I keep holding this button and it doesn't work
<FrankBlues> sure, as long as it shorts the contacts
<xakh> ok
<xakh> gimme a sec, I have a bunch of old USB cables, and one of them's shorted on its own, so I'm going to cannibalize it for parts
<FrankBlues> kk
<FrankBlues> the shield from a usb cable might work
<xakh> also, that's the little metal thing that says "usb boot" on it, why's it there?
<xakh> I'm supposed to be shorting the battery contacts, making it think there's a battery there, right?
<xakh> or something like that?
<FrankBlues> no, short the pins on the usb boot pins
<FrankBlues> the button should fit directly over the usb boot pads
<xakh> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
<FrankBlues> and leave the battery out
<xakh> ok
<xakh> so the little thing that says usb boot
<xakh> I put the button on that?
<xakh> is an idiot sometimes
<FrankBlues> yep, cover the two solder pads with the button
<xakh> okay, I did
<xakh> the screen didn't turn on
<xakh> but nothing detected
<FrankBlues> it won´t in usb boot mode
<FrankBlues> nothing in lsusb?
<xakh> nope
<xakh> I had watch lsusb on
<FrankBlues> no battery, button shorting pads, usb plugged in... should be working...
<xakh> ._.
<xakh> oh wow.
<xakh> I'm dumb
<xakh> gimme a sec
<FrankBlues> kk
<xakh> I had two cables
<xakh> and I didn't figure out one was not the other
<xakh> just one of those days.
<xakh> okay now it worked
<FrankBlues> cool!
<xakh> okay
<xakh> where do I go for instructions on reflashing?
<FrankBlues> now... do you have the reflash_ben.sh script?
<xakh> oh yeah, gonna go grab that
<FrankBlues> run it as root/sudo it and you should be golden!
<xakh> aaaawwwesome
<xakh> also, for gmenu2x, I saw that you can change the wallpaper
<xakh> I know it sounds silly
<xakh> but I found something I think is fitting
<xakh> in how awesome it is
<FrankBlues> the script logs to ~/.qi/nanonote/ben/latest/log.txt, otherwise it is pretty quiet while flashing
<xakh> nice
<xakh> hmm.
<FrankBlues> heh
<xakh> it said command not found
<FrankBlues> did you install xburst-tools?
<xakh> oops, hadn't given it permission to run on its own
<xakh> no I didn't
<xakh> should I have?
<FrankBlues> yees, need those first
<xakh> it's reflashing....
<xakh> is that bad?
<FrankBlues> oh?
<xakh> yeah
<xakh> says it's fetching it
<FrankBlues> you may want to check the log file
<xakh> did I brick my nanonote?
<xakh> okay
<xakh> it says it's downloading right now
<FrankBlues> it will fetch the nanonote's software first
<xakh> oh ok
<FrankBlues> you pretty much can't brick it - usbboot will always work
<xakh> sweet.
<xakh> also I'm installing xburst-tools now
<FrankBlues> kk
<xakh> gotta love uni internets
<xakh> anyway, so it's downloading the other thing still
<xakh> should I run it again, just in case, since I have the tools now?
<FrankBlues> I'd leave it be... it will flash the nanonote as soon as it is done downloading
<FrankBlues> (as long as xburst-tools are installed)
<xakh> ok, says it's flashing
<xakh> says it's done.
<xakh> wait gonna install quake from the demo script too
<CongoZombie> yo
<CongoZombie> anyone here have any experience with the AIC?
<FrankBlues> do the quake install after usbboot
<CongoZombie> in the jz
<FrankBlues> don't think you can install it until it has booted normally. then you can scp it over.
<xakh> oh ok
<xakh> ohhhh
<xakh> ok
<xakh> so now I put the battery in and reboot?
<FrankBlues> yep!
<xakh> oooohhhhh
<FrankBlues> yeah?
<xakh> neat.
<xakh> now, in gmenu2x
<xakh> how do I get to settings?
<xakh> it has an L and an R
<FrankBlues> l=q r=p
<xakh> thanks man
<FrankBlues> no problem!
<xakh> it says I can overclock
<xakh> should I?
<FrankBlues> er... only you can answer that...
<xakh> oh yeah.
<xakh> so it's at 300
<FrankBlues> I wouldn't, but don't think you'll need to
<xakh> okay
<xakh> cool.
<xakh> okay, now what do I do to move stuff in?
<FrankBlues> either copy using sd or get networking to work and scp stuff over
<xakh> ok
<xakh> is networking hard?
<FrankBlues> not really. just follow the wiki article on usb networking and it should work
<xakh> ok
<xakh> hmm
<xakh> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
<xakh> even with sudo
<xakh> says access denied
<FrankBlues> what distro are you using?
<xakh> ubuntu
<xakh> I know, nooby
<FrankBlues> me too, I remember this problem... halfasec
<xakh> ok
<xakh> also, how do I get out of gmenu?
<FrankBlues> you have to change an app so it won't reload gmenu, then run that app and exit
<xakh> ok
<xakh> ....
<FrankBlues> edit /etc/sysctl.conf ... uncomment the forwarding line
<xakh> I don't have a text editor...
<FrankBlues> gedit?
<FrankBlues> nano?
<xakh> oh
<xakh> on desktop
<xakh> wait
<xakh> how then?
<FrankBlues> yes, sorry, on desktop
<FrankBlues> sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
<xakh> Wait
<xakh> what?
<FrankBlues> take the # away from the net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 line
<xakh> how does that get rid of gmenu?
<xakh> oh oh ok
<FrankBlues> oh, sorry, still on networking
<xakh> gotcha!
<FrankBlues> try ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console on the nn
<xakh> I did
<xakh> then it tries to load gmenu
<Frank_Blues> Flargh...
<xakh> okay, got rid of the line
<Frank_Blues> You want the line, just not the # in front of it.
<xakh> sorry that's what I meant
<Frank_Blues> kk
<Frank_Blues> ctrl-x will exit and save. Reboot and you'll have ip forwarding enabled on your laptop.
<xakh> oh I gotta reboot
<xakh> ok
<xakh> brb
<xakh> alright!
<xakh> back.
<xakh> so now it's all plugged in
<xakh> will it "just work" so to speak?
<xakh> by the way it still says access denied on that command
<xakh> Frank_Blues: you still there?
<Frank_Blues> Yeah...
<Frank_Blues> Sorry...
<xakh> np
<xakh> So, what's next?
<Frank_Blues> if you "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" do you get a "1" ?
<Frank_Blues> (on the laptop)
<xakh> yup
<Frank_Blues> Okay, so the whole echo "1" > /proc... so on is now unnecessary.
<xakh> ok
<Frank_Blues> Do you use wifi or ethernet?
<xakh> ethernet
<xakh> so the etho part is right
<xakh> oh, since I rebooted
<xakh> should I redo all the previous commands?
<Frank_Blues> Yeah
<Frank_Blues> And anytime the nanonote reboots, you'll need to redo the "ifconfig usb0" command on your laptop - after you see the ubuntu network manager give up (you get the auto usb0 disconnected message)
<Frank_Blues> (or if you connect / disconnect the nanonote)
<xakh> hm. there's a difference between the output of ifconfig here and there
<Frank_Blues> Mmm?
<xakh> TX bytes:4941 (4.9 KB)
<xakh> instead of 0
<Frank_Blues> I wouldn't worry...
<xakh> ok
<Frank_Blues> The ubuntu network manager utility tries to mess with usb0 on a regular basis...
<Frank_Blues> can you ping the nn?
<xakh> yup
<Frank_Blues> Woo!
<xakh> okay, done all the nat config stuff
<xakh> save for that one command you said I didn't need
<Frank_Blues> You should be able to get to the internet from the nn
<xakh> Well
<xakh> I can't get to a console from the nn
<Frank_Blues> Control-Alt-F1 doesn't work?
<xakh> no it tries to load gmenu2x again
<xakh> how do I get it to stop?
<xakh> I tried ctrl c
<xakh> wait
<xakh> got it
<xakh> wtf
<xakh> oops
<Frank_Blues> Down by "Where's my console?"
<xakh> lol
<xakh> I got it!
<Frank_Blues> Woo!
<xakh> also it gives a random instruction on how to make a cocktail.
<xakh> when gmenu exits.
<Frank_Blues> It'll do that.
<Frank_Blues> (change /etc/banner if you want something else)
<xakh> alright, good to know my nano's an alcoholic
<xakh> no, I like it
<xakh> just made me laugh
<xakh> hmm
<xakh> can't seem to get a line out
<xakh> this usb thing is tough
<Frank_Blues> can the nanonote ping a numerical address (say, 4.4.4.4)
<xakh> tried 8
<xakh> didn't get anything
<Frank_Blues> have you given a default route?
<Frank_Blues> something like route add default gw 192.168.254.100
<xakh> yup
<xakh> I think I skipped a step. gotta try something
<xakh> oh crap I never set a root password
<xakh> how does one do that again?
<xakh> I've always had a graphical interface
<xakh> so yeah
<xakh> seriously, what's the ash command to set root password?
<xakh> nvm
<Frank_Blues> sorry, had to work.
<Frank_Blues> passwd
<xakh> np, I got it
<Frank_Blues> coo.
<Frank_Blues> I've gtg, home and all. Have fun!
<xakh> alright
<xakh> thanks for your help!
<Frank_Blues> not a problem! Enjoy the nanonote!
<xakh> hm. How do I get stuff off SD?
<xakh> hello?
<xakh> how do I get stuff off of my microSD card?
<mth> cp?
<xakh> ?
<mth> the copy command on the shell
<xakh> I was more asking what do I do to mount it?
<xakh> I've been spoiled by X11
<mth> it's not automounted? (I don't have a NN myself)
<xakh> oh
<xakh> well, I'm not sure.
<mth> if you check by using "mount" without arguments
<xakh> alrighty
<xakh> o.o
<xakh> lots of things
<xakh> where would a microsd card usually go?
<xakh> okay got in
<xakh> woot.
<xakh> now what's the syntax for cp again?
<mth> cp from to
<mth> where "from" and "to" can be file names with or without directories, and "to" can be just a directory
<xakh> hmm
<xakh> I'm trying to figure out where the folders for wallpaper and music are
<CongoZombie> which openwrt branch is current? master or xburst?
<xakh> xburst is meant to work with xburst processors, if I'm not mistaken.
<xakh> aka the NN
<xakh> so, when I set the date, the machine stops responding
<xakh> well, not totally, but the command prompt stops being the normal name and such
<xakh> and turns into > with a blinking _
<xakh> and I can't do anything.
<xakh> what's going on?
<xiangfu> Hi xakh
<xakh> hiya
<xakh> I've been using Linux for a year, but I've been spoiled by graphical interfaces
<xakh> :P
<xakh> I got my nn
<xakh> and I'm tryin' to figure it out.
<xakh> so
<xakh> first big question
<xakh> how do I move stuff off my microsd card?
<xakh> I'm pretty lost, xiangfu
<xiangfu> xakh: have you mount the sd-card in NN??
<xakh> nope
<xakh> not sure what to call the card
<xakh> I put it in, physically
<xakh> so what do I do?
<xiangfu> xakh: if you plug it in after NN booted. the Nanonote will automatic mount it at /mnt/mmc***
<xakh> okay
<xiangfu> xakh: if you plug it before the NN booted. we need mount it manually.
<xakh> I plugged it in after it booted
<xakh> woot
<xakh> okay
<xakh> in the microsd directory
<xakh> so what's the name of the directory for gmenu2x wallpapers?
<xiangfu> xakh: let me search . never look into the wallpaper.
<xakh> ok
<xiangfu> xakh: /usr/share/gmenu2x/skins/Default/wallpapers/
<xakh> okay
<xakh> so to do that I put like
<xakh> cp from /mnt/mmcblk0p1 to  /usr/share/gmenu2x/skins/Default/wallpapers/?
<xakh> or what?
<xiangfu> xakh: yes.
<xakh> fantastic.
<xakh> now it's a gorilla and a shark high fiving as my wallpaper.
<xakh> does this thing have a printscreen command?
<xiangfu> xakh: yes. it's "fbgrab". download at:
<xakh> nice.
<xakh> Uni internet messes up nanonote's ability to connect
<xiangfu> xakh: you want nanonote to access Internet ? right?
<xakh> yeah
<xakh> my uni messes with  connections
<xakh> the network's fast but sorta buggy
<xakh> I know
<xakh> it always seems to fail
<xiangfu> oh
<xakh> but if you wanna try and trouble shoot with me
<xakh> xiangfu I'm trying again, so maybe we can see where this went wrong?
<xiangfu> xakh: ok.
<xakh> awesome
<xakh> okay, so the first problem
<xakh> when looking at ifconfig usb0 it has a little difference
<xakh> it says: TX packets:24
<xakh> and TX has 4.8 kb in it
<xakh> which is either sent or recieved, I don't know which
<xakh> but anyway, seems like there's slight activity on it, is that okay, xiangfu?
<xiangfu> xakh: yes. we don't need care about the TX packets.
<xakh> ok
<xakh> so I got to the ping
<xakh> and it's pinging the NN fine
<xiangfu> xakh: then we do the NAT config :-)
<xakh> okay
<xakh> I keep having this problem
<xakh> xakh@WarMachine:~$ sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
<xakh> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
<mth> I guess the direct is done before sudo, instead of inside it
<mth> does it help to quote everything after sudo with single quotes?
<xakh> hm?
<xakh> nope
<xakh> did the same thing
<xiangfu> xakh: try this:  echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
<xakh> worked!
<xakh> okay, done with the NAT thing, no other incidents
<xakh> so I've already set a root password
<xakh> so what do I do first?
<xiangfu> xakh: ssh root@192.168.254.101
<xakh> ok
<xiangfu> xakh: then in Nanonote: "route add default gw 192.168.254.100"
<xakh> I'm on the tut
<xakh> okay
<xakh> when I did ssh
<xakh> it showed the system splash thing
<xiangfu> xakh: it's normal :-)
<xakh> okay sweet!
<xiangfu> xakh: in NanoNote: echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" >> /etc/resolv.conf
<xakh> I'm doing the route add thing first
<xiangfu> xakh: ok
<xakh> not found
<xakh> oops
<xakh> didn't put that last bit
<xakh> ok now it works
<xiangfu> xakh: ah. great :-)
<xakh> ok
<xakh> so now I need to check pingin
<xakh> hm sent out a ping
<xakh> nothing coming back
<xakh> sent it to google.com
<xakh> xiangfu: what'd I do wrong?
<xiangfu> xakh: try "ping 66.249.89.99"
<xakh> ok
<xakh> nothing back yet
<xakh> xiangfu: 100% packet loss
<xakh> 71 packages sent
<xakh> none received back
<xiangfu> xakh: try "ping 192.168.254.100" . try to ping your PC.
<xakh> ok
<xakh> yup
<xakh> that works fine
<xiangfu> xakh: have you run "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE" in your PC??
<xakh> yup
<xiangfu> xakh: is the eth0 connect to the network??
<xakh> I'm talking to you on it.
<xiangfu> xakh: ok. what is your default gw in your pc. try to ping PC's gateway ip address in NanoNote
<xakh> I don't even know
<xakh> how do I find that, again?
<xakh> oh, right, gotta say xiangfu to draw attention
<xakh> xiangfu: how do I find my gw>
<xakh> ?
<xiangfu> xakh: "route"
<xakh> ok
<xiangfu> xakh: after you run "iptables ...." the nn network should work.
<xakh> hm
<xakh> it pinged my default gateway fine
<xakh> xiangfu: any idea what's going on?
<xiangfu> xakh: ok. then mean the dns in your nanonote is wrong. take a look of your PC's dns :  "more /etc/resolv.conf"
<xakh> ok
<xakh> # Generated by NetworkManager
<xakh> domain resnet.marshall.edu
<xakh> search resnet.marshall.edu
<xakh> nameserver 10.101.7.30
<xakh> nameserver 10.101.4.36
<xakh> nameserver 10.101.4.33
<xiangfu> xakh: then run [echo "nameserver 10.101.7.30 > /etc/resolv.conf" in your PC.
<xakh> ok
<xakh> xiangfu: then what?
<xiangfu> xakh: then your nanonote network should work. try "ping google.com"
<xiangfu> in you nanonote
<xakh> ok
<xakh> nothin
<xakh> should I set the nanonote DNS too?
<xakh> xiangfu: should I repeat that command on the NN?
<xiangfu> xakh: don't need.
<xakh> well it didn't work.
<xakh> xiangfu: I'll be back in a bit, I'm hungry, and going to go get a chicken sandwich
<xiangfu> xakh: ok.
<xakh> xiangfu: you still on?