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<jtoy> how can I end execution from inside of a proc?
<jtoy> return doesn't seem to work
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<drbrain> break
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<nebbie> doesn't proc returns take you out of the method and use that return value instead?
<banisterfiend`> jtoy: next works too, depending on what kind of behaviour u want
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<zenspider> rawr
<zenspider> sorta
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<MrWGW> any of you know of a library analogous to python's fabric library?
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<MrWGW> I've authored a program in python that uses fabric but I really want to rewrite it in ruby
<lianj> you could build something like that with net/ssh from stdlib, but not sure how far fabric goes
<MrWGW> fabric's main thing that it does that I'm interested in
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<MrWGW> it returns the Python equivalent of a hash of the output of the commands it dispatches
<MrWGW> tagged by hostname
<MrWGW> so the hostname the command was run on is the key
<MrWGW> and the output of the command is the value
<vbatts> MrWGW: i'm sure you could wrap things up to get a Hash feeling, but i would check out the Rye project http://delanotes.com/rye/
* MrWGW looks
<MrWGW> that looks cool
<MrWGW> I mainly need the hash output because I use it for saving variables
<vbatts> k
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<zrail> Is there any known circumstance where ruby would keep a file open even after an explicit call to close()?
<zrail> i'm seeing this happen inside sinatra and i don't know how to stop it
<zenspider> nope
<drbrain> sinatra might dup it
<drbrain> but that seems unlikely
<zenspider> highly doubt that it would
<drbrain> zrail: how do you know it's still open?
<zrail> lsof
<zrail> lsof | grep <that pid> show as bunch of text files that i'm explicitly closing
<zrail> oh a bare begin/rescue. hold please.
<zrail> (this may be entirely my fault)
<zenspider> hah. you're not closing it :P
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<drbrain> heh
<drbrain> zrail: why are you using close instead of open with block?
<zrail> i was using open with block and it was doing the same thing
<zrail> yeah, i have bigger problems
<zrail> sorry about that
<zrail> :)
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<zenspider> no prob
<zenspider> glad we could help :P
<zenspider> err... mock
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<MrWGW> btw drbrain your rubygems faciliy is vastly superior to the equivalent facilities in python
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<banisterfiend> MrWGW: do you like talking about facilities
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<MrWGW> not as much as I like using them
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<banisterfiend> MrWGW: doesn't python have a rubygems like facility? what facilities does it have?
<erikh> pip
<erikh> easy_install
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<vectorshelve> getting this error while running bundle install -> http://pastie.org/4235968 help apprecated
<vectorshelve> the gem is installed if i run it independentaly .. but then after tht if i agn run bundle install same error
<banisterfiend> vectorshelve: shhh
<vectorshelve> banisterfiend: who let you back in here ?
<erikh> the internet
<erikh> anyhow, if you think it's a bundler issue, there's #bundler which should be a lot more helpful than here.
<vectorshelve> erikh: thanks
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<banisterfiend> erikh: hey erik
<banisterfiend> erikh: i see you uploaded a RL photo on twitter!!
<banisterfiend> erikh: good to finally meet u, erik!! :)))
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<rue> Speaking of
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<erikh> banisterfiend: hi
<banisterfiend> erikh: hey homie
<banisterfiend> erikh: why did you decide to reveal yourself on twitter
<erikh> boredom mostly
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<banisterfiend> erikh: just mixing it up a bit?
<erikh> yeah. I get that way.
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<erikh> lots of changes coming down the pipe for me, I think.
<erikh> think I'm going to scratch sm again and start over with taking bits and pieces from systemd and making them optional bits for people who don't want the whole hog
<erikh> there are some good ideas in systemd, it's just an all or nothing pile of turd
<erikh> also thinking about writing a syslogd
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<erikh> did I mention it's almost 1am and I'm rambling
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<rue> Yes
<yorickpeterse> Please write more wheels :)
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<erikh> ha
<erikh> I don't subscribe to "the old ways are best" bs
<banisterfiend> erikh: what do u think of bdsm
<erikh> but I do believe in unix philosophy
<erikh> banisterfiend: I haven't looked at it.
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<banisterfiend> sorry its called just sm now: https://github.com/sm/sm
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<yorickpeterse> What's up with all these stupid gem/project names these days?
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse: all the good names are taken already ;)
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<yorickpeterse> bullshit
<yorickpeterse> if that were true Pry would've been called "Interactive Dick REPL"
<yorickpeterse> or something like that
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse: some people say pry isn't a good name, as it sounds like the name for a python tool
<yorickpeterse> No, that would require it to include the word python
<yorickpeterse> iPython, bPython, etc
<yorickpeterse> I'm amazed they didn't call it iGuido
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<symm-> hi, does anyone know offhand what magic the ruby installer on windows does
<erikh> man, what a hater
<symm-> to make foo.rb files runnable by just typing 'foo'
<erikh> symm-: I think it registers a mime type handler
<erikh> but don't hold me to that.
<symm-> thanks
<symm-> I'll do the boring thing and just run the installer
<erikh> :)
<symm-> :)
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<vectorshelve> getting this error while running bundle install -> http://pastie.org/4235968 help apprecated nothing seems working
<vectorshelve> the gem is installed if i run it independentaly .. but then after tht if i agn run bundle install same error
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<yorickpeterse> vectorshelve: there's not much you can do about that in Bundler, it's a network timeout
<vectorshelve> yorickpeterse: why do you think is that happeneing ? and what is the solution ?
<yorickpeterse> Could be any number of reasons. Faulty network configuration, random timeouts, Rubygems going to shit, etc
<yorickpeterse> ping rubygems.org for a while and see if you get any timeouts
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<unixabg> Greetings, I have a ruby application that is doing some image manipulation. Is it wrong to set the nice priority so when
<unixabg> the system is running large number of processes, it does not start death spiral?
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<yorickpeterse> I doubt the priority will have much of an impact
<yorickpeterse> You're better off limiting the resources such as the maximum amount of processes, memory, etc
<unixabg> yorickpeterse: can I handle such things inside my program?
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<yorickpeterse> You can but you should always assume the process itself is lying
<yorickpeterse> You're better off using a supervisor such as supervisord, monit, runit, etc
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<yorickpeterse> Of those I think supervisord is unable to limit memory resources and the like, though I could be wrong
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<injekt> runit/monit <3
<yorickpeterse> I hate chpst though
<yorickpeterse> I can't seem to make it limit processes by residential memory opposed to only vram
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<rue> Well, just use one that works
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<yorickpeterse> no wai
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<johnashenfelter> anyone able to give specific instructions for compiling ruby 1.9.3p194 with a specific openssl (non-system)
<johnashenfelter> lots of trying to RTFM, no luck except through RVM which isn't something we like on our production servers
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<diegoviola> johnashenfelter: have you tried looking at ./configure --help ?
<johnashenfelter> yes -- nothing specific about ssl
<johnashenfelter> rvm and older rubies apparently took a --with-openssl-dir=
<johnashenfelter> but thats unrecognized in 1.9.3 -- i don't know about prev behavior, but thats in a lot of blog posts/etc
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<diegoviola> not sure, sorry
<diegoviola> i would see how rvm does it
<johnashenfelter> thanks anyhow -- yeah -- pretty hard to parse through the bash :) but posted on #rvm
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<diegoviola> it's strange that ssl isn't in the configure, i've just took a lookt at it
<diegoviola> s/lookt/look/
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<johnashenfelter> i know -- baffling :)
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<johnashenfelter> openssl 1.0+ on ubuntu 12.04 (and osx) has a bug with certain tls1.0 servers
<johnashenfelter> so you need 0.9.8 -- rvm can install a rvm-local version of openssl and compile it just fine
<johnashenfelter> that works as expected -- normal rvm or any normal compile using the 1.0 version fails
<johnashenfelter> so trying to get from there to building without rvm
<johnashenfelter> pita
<diegoviola> perhaps there's an env variable that you could use to point it to the right openssl
<diegoviola> have you tried with LD_LIBRARY_PATH or something
<diegoviola> hmm
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<johnashenfelter> exactly -- thats what I'm looking for
<johnashenfelter> i'm not normally a compile it from scratch guy (i like my rvm and/or rbenv+ruby-build)
<johnashenfelter> though I did find wayne passes a few flags to openssl that are non-standard (probably better? no-this and that)
<johnashenfelter> so learning :)
<johnashenfelter> and definitely getting the CPU moneys worth out of that EC2 box with all the compilation
<rue> Better, worse, cargo-culting, who’s to say
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<diegoviola> LD_LIBRARY_PATH will override libraries from your dynamic executable but only temporarilty I think
<johnashenfelter> this came back from twittershpere: https://gist.github.com/3090949
<diegoviola> *temporarily
<johnashenfelter> seems reasonable at first glance -- going to dig in
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<johnashenfelter> here's the answer:
<johnashenfelter> ruby -e 'RbConfig::CONFIG.each { |k,v| puts "#{k} => #{v}" }' | grep ssl
<johnashenfelter> configure_args => '--prefix=/home/ubuntu/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p194' '--enable-shared' '--disable-install-doc' '--with-openssl' '--with-opt-dir=/home/ubuntu/.rvm/usr' '--with-libyaml'
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<jtoy> hi, I've written a bunch of threaded apps, but usually pretty simple, I'm making a more complicated one now, i wanted to know, in general for each thread should they all maintain their own connections, each thread will be talking to a db, redis, should i use a single connection for each service or have them all have their own connections?
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<rue> jtoy: You’d want to verify that the adapter is thread-safe
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<drbrain> jtoy: it reduces lock contention to have a connection per thread
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<jtoy> i think the libraries are thread safe, so ill probably go with a set of connections per thread
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<rue> Sounds like a plan
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<owen1> when i upload a big file to a ruby server, is the request being blocked?
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<rue> Whether that request is blocking would depend on the particular server. Typically it shouldn’t be
<owen1> rue: ok. so passanger will spawn a new thread? and thin is using event loop so it will not?
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<rue> The latter, yes, I’m not certain about Passenger but I’d assume it will offload it somehow, yes.
<rue> Basically if you have a Real Web Server™, that shouldn’t be an issue
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<owen1> rue: awesome. i am curious about how each server scale. the options are threads, process or event loop, as far as i know.
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<erikh> /w 5
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<Silowyi> Is there a way in RDOC to collapse a section of the comments? A few of my functions generate large JSON objects and I'd like to show example objects, but have the object listing collapsible.
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<drbrain> Silowyi: no
<drbrain> Silowyi: you can put examples on a separate page (file) though
<Silowyi> and just link to it? not a bad idea.
<drbrain> yup
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<jtoy> how would i know without going through all the code?
<jtoy> I'm trying to debug why my threads are so slow
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<drbrain> jtoy: you can't test thread safety
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<drbrain> jtoy: you can prove thread safety
<injekt> :D
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<injekt> threads are hard, lets test thread safety
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<jtoy> drbrain / injekt : this is my very simple code, does it seem like i have blocking code or did ti wrong: http://pastebin.ca/2169797
<jtoy> when i run that code, it is very slow, pulling in data
<drbrain> jtoy: on line 18-20 you should use SizedQueue
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<jtoy> ok, i will try out SizedQueue
<drbrain> jtoy: your limiting factor is going to be HTTP calls
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<drbrain> jtoy: if Excon doesn't use persistent connections this is going to be much slower
<jtoy> drbrain: i don't thinks twitter's regular api supports it
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<jtoy> I'm double confirming it now
<drbrain> jtoy: twitter uses HTTP/1.1, it supports persistent connections
<jtoy> drbrain: i tested it before, it only worked on there streaming api, but not there regular one
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<drbrain> jtoy: I tested it right now in telnet, it works fine
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<jtoy> drbrain: yeah, ok, it seems to work, not I'm trying to figure out how to use persistent connections with excon
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<drbrain> jtoy: just use net-http-persistent
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<jtoy> drbrain: i knew you wrote it before clicking the link!
<jtoy> drbrain: does that support oauth ?
<drbrain> jtoy: no, it's just a persistent connection wrapper
<drbrain> jtoy: either Excon supports persistent connections or it doesn't. You shouldn't be need to turn it on
<jtoy> drbrain: i can't tell if it does , this example seems like it might work: http://blog.methodhead.com/
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<jtoy> drbrain: at the# keep-alive line
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<jtoy> @connection = Excon.new("http://localhost:4567") ;@connection.request(:method => "GET", :path => "/foo") ; @connection.request(:method => "GET", :path => "/bar")
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<drbrain> yup, that's what you want
<jtoy> drbrain: oh, so keep-alive is the same as persistent connections? HTTP persistent connection, also called HTTP keep-alive, or HTTP connection reuse,
<jtoy> thanks
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<drbrain> jtoy: there's an extension to HTTP/1.0 called "keep-alive"
<drbrain> in HTTP/1.1 it's just called "persistent connections"
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<jtoy> drbrain: so it is much faster now, I ran my program with 10 threads ,each making its own persistent connection, only 5 got established, then i started the same program again, and that got 3 connections established, so a total of 8, why would that happen? if i can get 8, shouldn't the first program be able to get 8 instead of only 5?
<drbrain> you'll have to look at the errors to determine why
<jtoy> there are no errors, excon just sits there waiting, i looked at lsof and its waiting on a SYN_SENT
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<jtoy> drbrain: and then i just want to confirm , so I used a class variable for the connection, it seems like the class variable doesn't get kept between threads, are there gotchas I should know about?
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<drbrain> I would use a local variable per thread
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<drbrain> Thread.new; connection = Excon.whatever; …; end
<zenspider> argh. wtf
<zenspider> linking ruby
<zenspider> ./miniruby -I./lib -I. -I.ext/common ./tool/runruby.rb --extout=.ext -- --disable-gems "./test/runner.rb" --ruby="./miniruby -I./lib -I. -I.ext/common ./tool/runruby.rb --extout=.ext -- --disable-gems" -v -x drb
<zenspider> [BUG] cross-thread violation on rb_gc()
<zenspider> I just did a make realclean
<zenspider> wtf do I do?
<rue> What *did* you do?
<zenspider> make realclean; make test-all
<zenspider> ZOMG! THE HORROR!
<zenspider> I suspect the deps are wrong... AGAIN
<drbrain> for whatever reason make test-all doesn't build ruby or extensions
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<zenspider> aaaand the dependencies are STOOOPIDly set up
<zenspider> fuck it. I don't care anymore
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<zenspider> well you guys sure are exciting...
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<erikh> heh
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<jtoy> i thought there is a Time.parse method in 1.9.x ?
<laanan> hi there
<laanan> wondering if someone can help me get ruby-debug19 installed on win7...having no luck with forum solutions...
<laanan> ruby and devkit installed correctly
<laanan> no problems with other gems
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<erikh> jtoy: DateTime.parse and Date.parse
<jtoy> erikh: require 'time' fixed it, wtf
<erikh> they're also super slow and occasionally broken
<erikh> yeah, so time is a stdlib and core library
<erikh> I didn't realize Time.parse existed though