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<bnagy> what could be different about running a script and running in irb?
<bnagy> I got a zk gem test that works line for line in irb and fails when I run it
<deryl> you got something in your .irbrc thats loading that isn't in the script? one possibility
<bnagy> no irbrc
<deryl> ok, exhausts my solutuons :)
<bnagy> 'sone more than I could think of :/
<banisterfiend> bnagy: what is the error?
<deryl> hehe
<bnagy> KeeperException.java:90:in `create': org.apache.zookeeper.KeeperException$ConnectionLossException: KeeperErrorCode = ConnectionLoss for /fuzz/fuzzer
<bnagy> preceded by like 50 lines of backtrace
<bnagy> jruby is a chatty bitch
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<bnagy> ha, I can even load the file in irb and have it work
<bnagy> ponder ponder ponder
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<whitequark> bnagy: gist it?
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<whitequark> I'd say that you have a timeout somewhere which fires and then reestablishes the connection
<whitequark> but if you run it in a script, it doesn't have a chance to run
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<bnagy> nope, but hang on
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<bnagy> just saw a bug, but it's not a relevant one (@node_metadata used uninitialized)
<bnagy> I actually tried putting a sleep in the script already, in case there was some weird connecty timing race thing
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<countdigi> wondering if anyone had ideas for cleaning up this code?
<countdigi> i want to get rid of the initial output = [] w/ something like an inject
<Mon_Ouie> You can use each_with_object — not that I think it's any cleaner (or dirtier)
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<Mon_Ouie> I'd probably make output a string already instead of using Array#join though
<countdigi> yeah good point
<bnagy> why do you need to lookup in connectiondb again if you're iterating over it?
<countdigi> to not print users that have no connections
<bnagy> but isn't user in your block the same as connectiondb[name] ?
<countdigi> yes
<bnagy> so why not just inline that code?
<countdigi> the any connections?
<bnagy> yeah
<bnagy> if you could add a sample of the connectiondb to the gist that would help
<countdigi> k.. hold on
<bnagy> it looks like this could be a lot shorter, but I'm not sure til I see the data
<bnagy> aren't you checking for empty connections twice, as well?
<countdigi> having some github issues working thru
<countdigi> ok that has the specs w/ the data structure etc.
<countdigi> reviewing ur comments - appreciate it tx
<bnagy> I can read the puzzle on puzzlenode, I just want to see what your connectiondb looks like
<countdigi> right its in the spec
<countdigi> spec/connection_db_builder_spec.rb
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<countdigi> i think i refactored out any_connections? and then simplified things - now i see what u mean about pulling it back in
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<bnagy> ok
<bnagy> personally I would do it in two statements
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<bnagy> first connections.sort.reject {|name, (degree,conns)| conns.empty?}
<countdigi> ah - i was wondering if there was a |x(y,z)| construct
<bnagy> the sorted.each.with_object("") {|(name(degree,conns)),out_str| ...
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<bnagy> you could do it all in one, but I just think it's clearer to do a reject pass first
<countdigi> cool tx - i will try to incorporate that
<bnagy> blah lost internet
<bnagy> my syntax is screwed, sorry
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<bnagy> it's a while hash
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<bnagy> so sorted=connections.sort.reject {|name,conns| conns.all? {|degree,c| c.empty?}}
<bnagy> *whole hash
<countdigi> tx - i caught what u were doing
<countdigi> the one im wrapping my head around is part 2 :-)
<countdigi> gonna do it slow and have tests running in guard :-)
<bnagy> well once it's sorted with the dead users gone it should be easy
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<countdigi> what would u call that technique the {|x,(y,z)} construct?
<bnagy> should look more like each.with_object {|(name,connmap),new_str|
<countdigi> gotcha
<bnagy> and then decompose / sort connmap in that block
<bnagy> I just had temporary deskillment
<countdigi> np appreciate it
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<countdigi> man i need to hit the hay but this is so nice and quiet this time of the night :-)
<countdigi> no phone, no gf asking what are we doing today, just tibetan monestary bells across in the night sky
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<countdigi> 1.9.2p320 :018 > puts c
<countdigi> {"foo"=>{1=>["bob"]}}
<countdigi> 1.9.2p320 :019 > c.each { |name,(degree,connection)| puts connection }
<countdigi> prints nothing
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<countdigi> is that syntax 1.9.3?
<drbrain> countdigi: no
<countdigi> im missing something or misunderstood bnagy
<drbrain> countdigi: argument parsing in blocks and multiple assignment use most of the same grammar rules
<drbrain> the ability to use () to disassemble block arguments exists through all of 1.8
<countdigi> i don't understand why the array ['bob'] didn't get popped into the var connection
<bnagy> countdigi: you can't decompose a hash that way
<countdigi> ah
<bnagy> cause it could have any number of elements
<countdigi> i misunderstood what was possible
<bnagy> you can decompose an array, like you'll get from sorting a hash
<drbrain> ah, yes
<bnagy> countdigi: that's where I went mad in the first example, which I )hopefully) fixed
<countdigi> tx i learned something new - now im putzing around in irb :-)
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<vectorshelve> how to correct the 9th line from getting commented ? -> http://pastie.org/4191491
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<apeiros_> anybody happen to know a regex character class that is \p{Word} but without \d?
<yorickpeterse> \w+ ?
<yorickpeterse> Not sure if that includes numbers
<apeiros_> \w is not \p{Word} and it includes \d ;-)
<countdigi> [a-zA-Z_]
<apeiros_> countdigi: like \w that misses chars like "ä"
<yorickpeterse> apeiros_: hmm
<countdigi> ah
<apeiros_> hm, probably \p{L}
<apeiros_> ah, found the description of \p{Word}:
<apeiros_> it's basically [\p{Letter}\p{Mark}\p{Number}\p{Connector_Punctuation}]
<apeiros_> so I can just use that and drop \p{Number} :)
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<rue> Yep
<rue> Man, I should really review the \p some day, there’s some fancy stuff in there.
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<Tasser> apeiros_, is there a list of \p{} ?
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<andrewvos> That looks nice.
<apeiros_> rue: yeah, telling myself the same all the time I use \p :-S
<apeiros_> Tasser: so far I'm only aware of what asio mentioned. better lists very welcome
<rue> That’s about the same as the onig docs themselves
<ddfreyne> oh nice
<ddfreyne> I did not know about \p
<rue> Yeah, up to this point, I’ve kinda just been satisfied to know magic \p exist in the event I’d need them…but usually I manage to decompose the regexp well enough to not need
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<apeiros_> well, I'm forced to use \p
<apeiros_> \w in 1.9 is strictly [A-Za-z\d_], unlike in 1.8, where it was almost the same as what \p{Word} is now
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<apeiros_> (just to be clear: I like that change a lot)
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<lzhz> Can't get the shorthand properties to work.
<lzhz> [1] pry(main)> "foo".scan /\p{L}/
<lzhz> SyntaxError: (pry):2: invalid character property name {L}: /\p{L}/
<lzhz> \p{Alpha} works. \p{Letter} doesn't.
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<zenspider> apeiros_: ??? afaik \w in 1.8 is exactly what you're saying it is in 1.9
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<zenspider> \w word character[0-9A-Za-z_]
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<_uR> Hi guyz ! I'm new to Ruby and I'm trying to do my first XML parsing ever :). However, I'm currently facing a problem. My parsing works well, but then I would like to call the parsing script from another Ruby script. So here is my parsing script : http://pastie.org/4191980 (which works fine in standalone version ), and here's the calling script : http://pastie.org/4191982 . But here, the parsing script returns me that he can't find Te
<_uR> I'm using this folder hierarchy : http://pastie.org/4191991
<_uR> Any idea why ?
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<yorickpeterse> Slightly offtopic: don't use regex for parsing XML
<_uR> I don't, I just use regexes to remove the markups before adding them into my lists
<yorickpeterse> Also, what error are you exactly getting?
<_uR> but the parsing is done with REXML
<_uR> ruby: No such file or directory -- Test.xml (LoadError)
<apeiros_> zenspider: nope
<apeiros_> zenspider: if your encoding is utf-8, \w will also match other word characters, like äöü
<yorickpeterse> _uR: you can't use require() for non Ruby files, though I can't find this call in the code
<apeiros_> [RUBY_VERSION, "hägör"[/\w+/]] # => ["1.8.7", "hägör"]
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<apeiros_> zenspider: ^
<apeiros_> and with binary encoding: [RUBY_VERSION, "hägör"[/\w+/n]] # => ["1.8.7", "h"]
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<_uR> yorickpeterse: To call the other script, I found many ways, but I just decided to do the backtick thingie (maybe the less elegant, but nevermind). And I really don't understand why it doesn't find Test.xml
<yorickpeterse> _uR: the backticks execute it as a shell script
<_uR> yorickpeterse: fine for me
<yorickpeterse> If you want to execute arbitrary Ruby code you can just require() it
<_uR> yorickpeterse: But I need a parameter
<yorickpeterse> Ah
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<_uR> Oh I have a better error now. I modified my calling script to this : http://pastie.org/4192017 (I basically changed "#{f}" to "#{x}/#{f}" to have the path of the file), and now I have another error : http://pastie.org/4192023 . At least, he found my XML file
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<_uR> But I don't understand because the parsing script works in standalone version (if I call it directly with the XML file as argument)
<yorickpeterse> _uR: Please don't use global variables
<yorickpeterse> $variable is a global one
<yorickpeterse> Ruby doesn't use sigils for local variables
<_uR> yorickpeterse: You really want to know why I used some ? :D
<yorickpeterse> No, I don't care because it's a dumb idea
<yorickpeterse> anyway, I think I've found your issue
<yorickpeterse> %x{ruby $GetTimePath #{x}/#{f}} if(f == $FileName)
<yorickpeterse> This doesn't evaluate $GetTimePath
<yorickpeterse> It should be #{$GetTimePat}
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<yorickpeterse> * Path
<_uR> hmm
<yorickpeterse> Also, don't use PascalCase for variables
<yorickpeterse> They're used for constants only
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<_uR> I removed all the constants :)
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<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/styleguide/ruby/ Take a look at this, I don't agree with everything but it's a good start
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<_uR> Thanks for the tip :)
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<_uR> But I think the backticks won't be enough here
<_uR> since I don't get the output of my parsing script (the puts I mean)
<_uR> I'll use IO poppen I guess
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<banisterfiend> rue: did u read this http://cirw.in/blog/time-to-move-on
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<jperry2> how many people have ditched text mate for sublime?
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<ddfreyne> I switched from tm to vim :)
<yellow5> ^
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<jperry2> ha
* apeiros_ still uses bbedit
<apeiros_> but will probably switch to sublime once I've got the retina.
<lianj> apeiros_: haha
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<andrewvos> I was thinking of switching to sublime once I got my kidney.
<andrewvos> badum-tish.com
<countdigi> i forgot about that editor - reminded me also of hotdog for wind0ze
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<oddmunds> i wrote my first webpage in MS Edit
<oddmunds> (it was a geocities one)
<andrewvos> Notepad for me
<andrewvos> Remember those "Made with Notepad" banners you could put on your site? Well I never used one of those.
<apeiros_> bbedit, all the way back to bbedit 5 iirc
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<andrewvos> Gangsta
<apeiros_> with a brief excursion to ultraedit, when I was forced to use winblows
<oddmunds> i had forgotten about ultraedit
<andrewvos> This conversation is making me feel sick. Can we talk about vim plugins or something?
<andrewvos> Sheesh, I vundles Numbers.vim and it totally slowed down vim!
<andrewvos> vundled*
<andrewvos> And also, relative line numbers? Who needs them.
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<oddmunds> it sounds like a thing that would make me use vim more effectively
<andrewvos> That's what I thought.
<oddmunds> atm counting lines takes longer than
<andrewvos> The lies.
<oddmunds> repeating stuff
<oddmunds> or just as long, but when i've repeated something i'm already done
<andrewvos> I don't really use commands across multiple lines
<andrewvos> For example I'll rather d}
<andrewvos> To delete a paragraph
<oddmunds> andrewvos: did it slow anything but the startup?
<andrewvos> oddmunds: Well, if you're sshing into a box you don't want all lines being updated all the time.
<oddmunds> vundle doesn't poll every repo for updates on every launch does it?
<andrewvos> Not sure it does that, but it feels jumpy.
<oddmunds> andrewvos: valid point
<andrewvos> oddmunds: Nope.
<oddmunds> given that it's a slow connection
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<andrewvos> Wow I already feel better.
<andrewvos> I wish peterc did something with like a weekly roundup of new vim plugins.
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<oddmunds> is that the
<oddmunds> * Weekly guy?
<oddmunds> (pardon my newlines)
<andrewvos> oddmunds: Yeah
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<rue> Yay
<andrewvos> Yay?
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<rue> banisterfiend: Yes, I saw that…I don’t really have an opinion at this time
<rue> andrewvos: Random cheer
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<devth> what's the idiomatic way to wrap a long ruby oneliner? e.g. foo.map { ..... }.reject { ....... } etc. after 80 chars, i like to put the ".reject" on the next line, but i get warnings.
<canton7> either end the line with a \, or leave the dot on the previous line
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<canton7> or use the bang forms, and put one statement per line (e.g. foo.map!{ ... } \n foo.reject!{ ... } )
<devth> k, thx.
<lianj> nah, not a bang!
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<rue> I find foo.map {\n blah \n}.reject … common
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<rue> Dot on the line and then aligning the next method to the previous is, too
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<soahccc> devth: Putting the dot on the next line doesn't work for you?
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<devth> soahccc: it works. vim-syntastic just warns about it.
<soahccc> Ahh okay
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<imperator> good morning
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<imperator> #define RUBY_CRITICAL(expr) do { expr; } while (0) # => what?
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<imperator> hm, seems to be a relic
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<Tasser> what would you call unclean data? "dirty" isn't the correct word, is it?
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<imperator> dirty, dirty data
<oddmunds> tainted?
<outoftime> filthy?
<imperator> Tasser, if by "dirty" you mean "external" then "tainted" is correct
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<outoftime> semi-structured?
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<imperator> man ruby needs real sandboxing instead of that $SAFE crap
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<Tasser> imperator, not strictly a ruby context :-)
<Tasser> faulty probably
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<Tasser> tained says it's dangerous...
<Tasser> imperator, I heard you like JS? ...
<bnagy> no it doesn't
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<Tasser> so we put some JS in your JS
<bnagy> tainted just says it is influenced by external input
<bnagy> the code that handles it might be dangerous
<Tasser> imperator, how the heck do you want to implement sandboxing if you can't even do namespace sandboxing...
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<imperator> Tasser, yeah, i like js, why?
<imperator> namespace sandboxing? you mean selector namespaces? that's something totally different
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<Tasser> imperator, selector namespaces? nah, constants namespaces
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<imperator> _why had a lib out there, but i don't think it works any more
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<Tasser> you could start a new ruby interpreter...
<Tasser> but I'm not sure about the IPC
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<imperator> Tasser, looks like that technique would work with rubinius
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<lianj> why not with others?
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<lianj> (if by interpreter you mean process)
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<darix> imperator: there are a few sandbox modules for ruby out there
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<imperator> darix, haven't looked in a while; i believe you
<imperator> i just think it should be baked into ruby core
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<darix> imperator: maybe start a discussion on ruby-core?
<lianj> $SAFE is a good start
<imperator> been there, done that
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<imperator> basically boils down to "too much work"
<imperator> you'd have to implement it, then rework everything that currently uses $SAFE to use it, including stdlib
<imperator> and what about 3rd party libs that use it? they break
<imperator> so....3rd party libs it is
<darix> you could make $SAFE just automatically activate a sandbox with a preset that resembles the old rules?
<darix> got to run
<darix> later
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<corecode> hi
<corecode> is there a better construct than h = Hash.new{|h,k| h[k] = []} ?
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<kyrylo> corecode, let us imagine that we live in the Wonderworld. Let's forget Ruby rules, too. Next, give us an answer on simple question: how would you make it better?
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<corecode> no idea, that's why i am asking
<corecode> i find it fairly bulky
<erikh> corecode: for arrays, no, there isn't much better
<corecode> erikh: or any other objects that carry state
<erikh> if it was an automatic value like a Fixnum or a Symbol you could h = Hash.new(0)
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<corecode> yeh
<erikh> right.
<erikh> basically anything other than a fixnum or symbol.
<corecode> just doing a reality check here
<erikh> hey, no problem.
<corecode> :)
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<corecode> i think in retrospect it might have been nicer to have the block return a value to be assigned to the hash field
<corecode> instead of passing the hash and the key to the block and expecting the block to have side effects
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<apeiros_> corecode: subclass hash. now you never have to do it again.
<apeiros_> corecode: I disagree @ "it might have been nicer to have the block return a value to be assigned to the hash field"
<apeiros_> note that the normal default value doesn't get assigned to the hash either.
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<corecode> oh, right
<corecode> good point
<corecode> i retract my comment then
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<zenspider> corecode: one nice thing is that the block can have multiple side effects.
<zenspider> here's my favorite impl
<zenspider> class HashHash < Hash; def initialize; super { |h,k| h[k] = HashHash.new }; end; end
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<zenspider> throw in a method_missing for extra sauce... but that's bad form
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<rue> Missing method missing
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<corecode> zenspider: right
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<freedrull> anyone read the latest backstage.soundcloud entry? pretty crazy stuff
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<boobah> freedrull: cool
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<SmoothPorcupine> ruby-lang is a comedy website. Ally: Newgrounds. Foe: theEscapist. http://en.shindanmaker.com/219295
<drbrain> … ‽‽‽
<SmoothPorcupine> drbrain, maybe this will help: drbrain is made of bad luck, woman, and clouds. With a dash of James Bond. http://en.shindanmaker.com/219278
<erikh> drbrain: you're being attacked by markov himself
<erikh> (that's my guess)
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<SmoothPorcupine> erikh, nah I think it's either random and stored or seeded with a hash.
<SmoothPorcupine> erikh is made of lazy, man, and desperation. With a dash of AMERICA.
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<erikh> haha wow
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<zenspider> zenspider is made of R&B, hyenas, and genius. With a dash of pervert.
<zenspider> R&B?!? how dare they!
<zenspider> I need a physicist
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<rue> Ha-ha
<imperator> rue, hey, did you beat up that french guy that pushed your mascot yet?
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<rue> I do not recall either event
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<zenspider> no physicists in here?
<zenspider> hrmph
<zenspider> stupid railz0rs
<seanstickle> I'm sort of a physicist
<zenspider> confidence inducing! :P
<zenspider> I'm sort of a bomb expert...
<seanstickle> What kind of physics support does a Ruby channel need?
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<imperator> gem install quark
<seanstickle> imperator: that'll get you at least 2 gems installed
* zenspider sighs
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<seanstickle> Speak up guv
<seanstickle> What physics support do you need?
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* imperator notes that there is a #physics channel
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<imperator> not that that means there are actual physicists in there or anything
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