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<postmodern> RickHull, zeromq also provides a cmake build script
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<RickHull> i think i got it figured out
<RickHull> i had to run the autogen.sh to get the configure script
<RickHull> i usually stick to the package managers, been a while
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<RickHull> having trouble with zmq gem
<RickHull> i can install it fine, but on requiring it: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - /home/rhull/.rbenv/versions/1.9.3-p194/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/zmq-2.1.4/lib/zmq.so (LoadError)
<RickHull> it's installed to /usr/local/lib
<RickHull> I tried this: gem install zmq --with-zmq-dir=/usr/local/lib
<RickHull> i.e. /usr/local/lib/zmq.so
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<RickHull> drbrain: what is my major malfunction?
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<RickHull> sorry, i actually got did the right incantation: $ gem install zmq -- --with-zmq-dir=/usr/local/lib
<RickHull> but it's still looking for the .so inside ~
<RickHull> an rbenv thing?
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<RickHull> ok, this was the trick: gem install zmq -- --with-zmq-dir=/usr/local
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* abletony84 is now playing: http://soundcloud.com/haukeland/jd004
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<RickHull> erikh: how is rubygems-test going?
<RickHull> i installed it, i am getting some deprecation notes
<RickHull> NOTE: Gem.source_index is deprecated, use Specification. It will be removed on or after 2011-11-01.
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<RickHull> also got an Oof. Something went wrong on the results server processing these results. Sorry!
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<certainty> moin rubyists
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<zenspider> HI! I'M PROCRASTINATING!
<rue> How’s that going?
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<zenspider> rue: pretty good!
<rue> You should take up writing fiction
<zenspider> I've got 4 more days before my talk... so... lots of writing to not do yet
<DefV> what's the talk about
<banisterfiend> zenspider: are you nervous
<zenspider> banisterfiend: why would I be nervous?
<banisterfiend> zenspider: some people are nervous of public speaking.. :)
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<zenspider> AW FUCK... they moved me to friday
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<banisterfiend> zenspider: what's the talk about
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<banisterfiend> zenspider: cool, u should use it as an opportunity to name and shame your enemies
<rue> Mehee, Ben clearly noticed you were procrastinating and decided to help
<whitequark> HE'S LOOKING AT ME
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<judofyr> HEY FOLKS
<judofyr> I'M BACK
<judofyr> \o/
<judofyr> \o\
<judofyr> what's up?
<banisterfiend> judofyr: where did u go?
<judofyr> banisterfiend: eastern europe
<banisterfiend> cool, whycome?
<judofyr> hungary, romania, serbia, montenegro, croatia, bosnia, slovenia, italy, germany
<judofyr> vacation :)
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<banisterfiend> judofyr: nice!
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<banisterfiend> judofyr: how was slovenia?
<banisterfiend> i've seen a few photos of it and it looks like it has lots of rolling green hills
<judofyr> yeah, it's very green
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<banisterfiend> you weren't interested in going to russia?
<banisterfiend> lots of crazy rubyists from there :)
<banisterfiend> well, 2 or 3 anyway
<judofyr> you need visa
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<judofyr> and that's hassle
<banisterfiend> judofyr: which country had the greatest number of gypsies? :P
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<rue> judofyr: Could have caught a visa-free cruise from here to St. Petersburg
<judofyr> rue: sounds expensive…
<judofyr> rue: also, what's "from here"?
<banisterfiend> helsinki
<judofyr> ah
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<rue> It’s not terribly expensive. Although until they repeal their anti-gay laws, I don’t really have any desire to visit out of solidarity.
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<tailend> You know when you yield to a block ... is there any way to change what self is in the context of the block? Basically I want to avoid having to pass an argument explicitly into the block.
<banisterfiend> tailend: instance_eval
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<tailend> banisterfiend: Ah, nice. TY
<judofyr> tailend: instance_eval or instance_exec (if you want to also pass arguments)
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<workmad3> tailend: instance_eval &blk
<workmad3> tailend: not just instance_eval {yield}
<workmad3> tailend: and yes, you'll need to make the block parameter explicit to do this ;)
<banisterfiend> workmad3: or u could be a lolcat: instance_exec(&Proc.new) :P
<judofyr> tailend: class Object;def with_self(&blk) instance_eval(&blk) end end; is a typical example. 123.with_self { self == 123 }
<banisterfiend> judofyr: i prefer instance_exec these days as it doesn't break on lambdas
<judofyr> banisterfiend: ooh, I didn't knew about that difference
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<judofyr> instance_eval yields self… interesting
<judofyr> banisterfiend: I always wish the API was blk.call_with_self(123, :args, &blk)
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<banisterfiend> interesting
<judofyr> then it would be possible to call a block with a block too
<judofyr> err, the second &blk is of course a different blk
<judofyr> prc.call_with_self(123, :args, &blk)
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<banisterfiend> judofyr: yeah, that's an annoyance with instance_exec
<banisterfiend> inabilityt o pass a block parameter
<banisterfiend> it's a pretty major limitation actually
<judofyr> banisterfiend: I think I opened an issue for it sometime (or maybe just a mail to the mailing list)
<judofyr> banisterfiend: http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/5007
<banisterfiend> cool
<banisterfiend> judofyr: i've been using define_method to get around it
<banisterfiend> but it's hacky of course
<judofyr> yeah, me too
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<banisterfiend> judofyr: what is trans talking about?
<judofyr> banisterfiend: this issue: http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/6298
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<certainty> what is this Proc#+ supposed to do? Apparently it's not just a compose
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<Mon_Ouie> Not compose, just call each proc with the same arguments
<certainty> Mon_Ouie: i see. Why would you want a method for that?
<Mon_Ouie> That way you can pass that collection of callable objects as a regular block to a method
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<certainty> Mon_Ouie: ok i see. pup sub with blocks
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<rue> That could be nice with a good syntax. I’m not sure about +
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<t4nkd> Hi ruby, I'm having trouble retrieving the value of an instance variable that's set inside a module method from the class where the module is required -- is there a way to do this?
<banisterfiend> t4nkd: u need to provide a gist
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<t4nkd> So, there's an instance variable getting set in #send_notification_via_google
<t4nkd> Which, as exampled by the bash.txt, I have no idea how to retrieve the value of
<banisterfiend> t4nkd: this is creepy: "vipremobile(dev)"
<banisterfiend> is that your irb prompt?
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<t4nkd> So I'm not sure if there's a different method that's not #instance_variable_get
<t4nkd> Or what
<t4nkd> Rails console
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<banisterfiend> t4nkd: shouldn't you be keeping the same instance rather than creating a new one?
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<t4nkd> Well, that's becoming a bit of a different problem
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<banisterfiend> t4nkd: but if it's setting it on the instance, then u have to keep that instance it's setting it on
<banisterfiend> t4nkd: it looks like you're creating a new instance after you do the push_, so of course the ivar wont be set on a new instance
<t4nkd> Well it's strange though because the first time I use the new object method, it's slow, like it's going and getting the auth_key, but each subsiquent request is very quick
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<banisterfiend> t4nkd: does what i said work or not
<t4nkd> I actually didn't glean a solution from what you had said
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<banisterfiend> t4nkd: ffs
<banisterfiend> t4nkd: instead of doing this: Device.new.push_notification("1234", "foo", true, nil, nil, nil)
<banisterfiend> followed by this: Device.new.instance_variable_get(:@auth_key)
<banisterfiend> do this
<banisterfiend> d = Device.new.
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<banisterfiend> (without the final .)
<t4nkd> Oh ffs
<t4nkd> I get it
<banisterfiend> then: d.push_notification("1234", "foo", true, nil, nil, nil)
<banisterfiend> then: d.instance_variable_get(:@auth_key)
<t4nkd> Yeah you're right, I got that, I forgot d = Device.new.push_notification("1234", "foo", true, nil, nil, nil) is assigning d to true::TrueClass
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<t4nkd> tyty, that was silly of me -- appreciate your help
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<mksm> Is it possible to specify a system package as a dependency in the gemspec?
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<jtoy> just wondering, what ec2 management libraries do you guys use? I've seen a bunch on ruby, fog.io, rudy, rightaws, etc
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<mksm> using fo atm
<mksm> *fog
<rue> mksm: You can use :path, but…
<banisterfiend> adgar: did u give up on laser?
<mksm> rue: i'm not finding that in the gemspec docs
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<bcardarella> So I have this code: http://pastie.org/4366985
<bcardarella> why is it working for 1 but not for -1
<bcardarella> I'm on 1.9.3-p194
<bcardarella> oh god, I'm an retard
<bcardarella> nevermind
<bcardarella> too tired :p
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<kristofferrr> I'm probably doing something stupid, but can anyone tell me why the ".first()" part doesn't work in the following part of my function? It's not being limited to whatever options[:limit] is set to. http://pastie.org/private/nxcgy1ekz5y6erldh7rqq
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<rue> kristofferrr: Sure it’s the correct key?
<kristofferrr> Yes :)
<rue> Then there’s no reason.
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<kristofferrr> :/
<rue> The simplest explanation would be that options either doesn’t have a :limit, or it’s not what you expect.
<kristofferrr> The code is a refactoring of this http://pastie.org/private/snsonlyqhzretcjmj3jk6a - and that function works just fine with the same options hash.
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<rue> kristofferrr: Does it work if you hardcode a number there in stead of the limit?
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<kristofferrr> No, the test still fails.
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<kristofferrr> I have to go unfortunately but I will ask again tomorrow and hope someone is able to clear up the mystery :P
<kristofferrr> Thanks rue.
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<imperator> is there a way to extend an IO object so that it can use .pp (pretty print) ?
<imperator> my attempts to fh.extend PP::ObjectMixin did not work right
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<BlackShadow> recommend good book about Ruby please
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<wmoxam_> Spaceghostc2c: great minds think alike
<injekt> imperator: extend(PP::PPMethods)
<injekt> imperator: that's there pp is
<injekt> s/there/where/
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<BlackShadow> =))
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<imperator> injekt, looking better, but still having issues; fh.extend PP::PPMethods; fh.pp [1,2,3] # => NoMethodError: undefined method `delete' for nil:NilClass
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<rue> corundum: books?
<corundum> books is "The Ruby Programming Language", "Eloquent Ruby", "Programming Ruby 1.9” (‘Pickaxe’) or see http://ruby-doc.org/bookstore/
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<imperator> speaking of books, i seem to have lost my apache book
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<rue> Sad
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<imperator> nope, found it :)
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<jtoy> just wondering, what ec2 management libraries do you guys use? I've seen a bunch on ruby, fog.io, rudy, rightaws, etc
<jtoy> mksm: oh cool, I'm thinking of using fog
<jtoy> mksm: anything you didn't like about it?
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<zenspider> HI! I AM PROCRASTINATING AGAIN!
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<erikh> zenspider: hey, so am I
<erikh> let's be procrastination bros
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<zenspider> I don't bro. sorry.
<erikh> heheh
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<burgestrand> If a gem exists of a given version; one is platform-specific and one is platform-independent, which one gets precedence when installing?
<drbrain> the one with the highest version for your platform
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<drbrain> mysql 2.7.1-mswin32 is preferred over mysql 2.7 (ruby) and mysql 2.8 (ruby) is preferred over both
<burgestrand> Ah, so version > platform > ruby, more or less?
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<drbrain> more or less
<burgestrand> drbrain: thanks :)
<flibitijibibo> Anyone familiar with the libruby C/C++ library on OSX? We've got this game running on Windows/Linux with Ruby 1.9.3, but OSX isn't quite so happy... http://www.flibitijibibo.com/rubyFail.txt
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<flibitijibibo> anything special i need to be doing when building the OSX version? we get this when using gcc-llvm, gcc-4.2 and gcc-4.7
<drbrain> flibitijibibo: where did you start ruby?
<drbrain> previous to rb_protect in s_scripted_class::LaunchScript?
<flibitijibibo> earlier in the application
<flibitijibibo> we do a bunch of preparation before the launch
<zenspider> I'm gonna assume that all warning flags are on and there are NO compiler warnings on any of your code... clang has much better analysis and output than gcc does
<flibitijibibo> most of it is rb_respond_to to verify that the scripts are there... we call them where this crashes
<drbrain> flibitijibibo: I suspect it'll be difficult to determine without a portion of the source to look at
<flibitijibibo> i'd have to ask my client, but do you suppose OSX would have different behavior specifically?
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<drbrain> I would be surprised, but it could be you get lucky on other platforms due to differences in memory layout or something
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<zenspider> yeah
<zenspider> its most likely that... osx malloc is different and the memory system can be harsher (this is a good thing)
<zenspider> man malloc and look at the ENVIRONMENT section as well
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<drbrain> flibitijibibo: you should also try pulling your ruby VM setup into a standalone file you can reproduce the bug from
<drbrain> hopefully that won't have any proprietary code in it so you can share it
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<zenspider> in this case, having an object that has an invalid class pointer is really sketchy. back up and figure out what that object is to begin with and go from there
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<zenspider> nice. I'm fixing bugs by procrastinating...
<zenspider> as long as the thing you're procrastinating on is worse than the bugs you don't want to fix... they get fixed
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