<postmodern>
ryanf, seanstickle, trying to appropriately accommodate rdoc and yard in the Ore project generator
<postmodern>
apparently people want to use markdown for the README/ChangeLog, but rdoc for the API docs
<postmodern>
but i think that would give you some weird rdoc
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<postmodern>
yep, rdoc will currently skip .md/.tt files, sounds like this person wants to avoid writing API docs
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<erikh>
postmodern: rdoc 4
<postmodern>
erikh, awesome, that will simplify Ore's handling of markups vs. doc generators
<erikh>
yeah rdoc 4 has a lot of improvements in the pipe
<erikh>
it's a pretty clean codebase now too
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<calm>
Hey, do you guys know of any ruby books with excercises?
<calm>
A couple I've browsed through have none at all.
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<herpless_>
I'm relatively new to Ruby and having some issues with the following script: https://gist.github.com/ab64a4e2a07546e0fecd -- I'm trying to load a class using "inherited" and then initializing that class, but "initialized" is never called and any other functions called does not seem to exist (although they should, since I defined them...)
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<robin850>
herpless_: I'm quite a newbie but you are trying to create a new Say object but the class is not yet created
<robin850>
try to define an empty class plugin then create the Say class which inherit from the Plugin one and after, redefine the Plugin class with the self.inherited method
<robin850>
Hum ... the problem is the self.inherited method aren't going to be call with my solution (because you inherit the object before define the method)
<herpless_>
hmm, so the 'inherited' method loads the Say class before it's actually defining the say and initialize methods?
<robin850>
herpless_: It's because you want to create a new Say instance before define the Say class
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<herpless_>
robin850: I see
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<rue>
herpless_: #initialize not -d
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<rue>
herpless_: The problem with the method is, I think, that the class hasn’t been created yet
<banisterfiend>
herpless_: it's because the method hasn't been defined yet
<banisterfiend>
even though the class is created
<banisterfiend>
inherited() hooks are run just after the class is created but before the class body is executed
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<rue>
(Which seems a little silly, because it can stop the class from getting created properly. Which might or mightent be a good thing.)
<apeiros_>
there may be more than just one class body
<apeiros_>
which is probably the reason for the behaviour of inherited as it is
<apeiros_>
also some class methods might rely on inherited being run before any class method can be invoked
<apeiros_>
iow, there's sense in inherited's behavior as-is.
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<apeiros_>
herpless_: I haven't seen the original problem, but maybe method_added is what you're looking for?
<herpless_>
apeiros_: Actually, that might just work. I'll check it out, thanks.
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<rue>
apeiros_: It’d be possible to process just the class body in which the inheritance is declared
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<apeiros_>
yes. whether that'd be desirable is questionable, though.
<rue>
There’s something to be said for failing early, but it seems unintuitive that an error in a parent class hook method could prevent your class from being created
<apeiros_>
that was the original issue?
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<apeiros_>
well, one could argue that it falls into the same category as trying to inherit from a non-existing class. I don't see much of a problem there
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<matthewd>
herpless_: I think the more traditional approach would be to just add the class to an array, then loop through the contents of that array "later"
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<rfx>
Ive a small sinatra app contained in bin/mysinapp ; when I directly executed it -> works (it contains global "get '/' do ..."). When I build a gem and install it locally, the binary doesn't work. rubygem wraps it with a "load Gem.bin_path(...)" and this doesn't seem to execute sinatra; it just loads the file and doesn't run sinatra. Any ideas?
<rfx>
I asked this yesterday: gems yet have no official changelog format; I checked a few gems when they have one, each gem has their own. Couldn't derive a common way to do it. Any suggestion what approach for formatting it? I'd currently write the entries manually for now, not dervice from commit messages
<rfx>
hrm. Actually I didn't mean the ChangeLog but the version history ...
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<banisterfiend>
rfx: what's the diff b/w CHANGELOG and version history?
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<rfx>
banisterfiend: catchy question; for me, changelog is every change done (aka git log, i.e. obsolete nowadays), history/news are only notable items (i.e. what's the point of this and that release).
<rfx>
And I'm trying to figure out best gem practive for history/news file (I just realized this later, after I made myself familiar what the point of ChangeLog was, at least GNU-style ChangeLog)
<banisterfiend>
rfx: CHANGELOG is only notable changes, yeah
<rfx>
I currently have my Gemspec inside a Rakefile. Is this best practive? Soemtimes I see a separate .gemspec file; not sure when to use which one though
<ij>
hmmmmmmmmmm
<injekt>
rfx: use a separate gemspec unless it's generated platform specific
<ij>
Mon_Ouie: Show makefile.
<Mon_Ouie>
No makefile
<Mon_Ouie>
gcc test_ext.c -lruby -I/usr/include/ruby-1.9.1 -I/usr/include/ruby-1.9.1/x86_64-linux -o test && ./test
<Mon_Ouie>
(obviously only works on a specific platform)
<ij>
what the fuck then
<ij>
I did everything you did, except for sysinit, which I did, but removed cause it didn't help anyway.
<Mon_Ouie>
If you run just that example, does it work?
<ij>
cannot load such file -- pry
<ij>
Mon_Ouie:
<Mon_Ouie>
Well, that's normal unless pry is installed — is it?
<ij>
Oh, wait. lal
<apeiros_>
lal = drunken lol?
<ij>
I instantly assumed there's something wrong with your examle.
<ij>
apeiros_: Hipster lol.
<ij>
Hmm, it said true.
<ij>
Okay, at least now I have a working example.
<Mon_Ouie>
So it works
<Mon_Ouie>
So there *is* something different in your program
* ij
diffs.
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<ij>
Mon_Ouie: Hmm, my calling of code made a difference.
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<ij>
I did rb_protect -> cfunc() { rb_funcall }, and that made it not work, I changed it to your eval_string_protect
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<ij>
Mon_Ouie: You're the best. <3 xoxoxo
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<banisterfiend>
ij: Mon_Ouie is the bomb
<rking>
♪ Everybody's got a question on their mind (on their mind) ♪
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<Mon_Ouie>
I'm still curious why they wouldn't behave the same way. It doesn't sound like they should.
<kristofferrr>
Is there any argument against using require_relative rather than File.join etc. in >= 1.9.2? I think I remember reading something about it once but I'm not sure, and I can't really think of a reason now.
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<apeiros_>
you can leave it in. I prefer the -I approach.
<apeiros_>
drbrain: ping - in http://guides.rubygems.org/make-your-own-gem/ the example has `s.date = '2010-04-28'` in it - but I remember you saying that one shouldn't set the date yourself in the gemspec…
<Dreamer3>
ok
<Dreamer3>
-I for lib you mean/
<Dreamer3>
i can handle that
<Dreamer3>
but then it blows up on dependencies
<Dreamer3>
when running under ruby gems i shouldn't need to do gem "blah" because ruby gems should do that already, no?
<apeiros_>
Dreamer3: that's because you haven't installed them…
<Dreamer3>
no, i have installed them :)
<apeiros_>
if you had, then it wouldn't blow up… really…
<apeiros_>
and no, you don't need to do `gem 'gemname'`
<apeiros_>
you only have to do that if you need a specific version
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<Dreamer3>
they are in gem list
<apeiros_>
you *could* of course come forward with the actual error, you know?
<apeiros_>
instead of giving vague information…
<Dreamer3>
no such file to load -- linode
<Dreamer3>
when i do require 'linode'
<apeiros_>
are you using ruby 1.8?
<Dreamer3>
yes
<apeiros_>
…
<apeiros_>
you haven't required rubygems
<Dreamer3>
right
<Dreamer3>
i know this
<apeiros_>
ruby -rubygems -Ilib ./bin/yourexe
<apeiros_>
you know that and wonder why gems don't load? are you kidding me?
<rue>
Oh no, he figured out our ruse!
<Dreamer3>
i guess i'm just not imagining someone typing that all the time
<apeiros_>
"our"? et tu, ruete?
<richardjortega>
hello
<apeiros_>
Dreamer3: you know that there's an up-arrow on your keyboard?
<apeiros_>
and that your shell has a history…
<Dreamer3>
yes :)
<richardjortega>
i heard this was a great community chan for ruby help
<apeiros_>
then wtf are you complaining about? srsly?
<apeiros_>
once it's installed, it's only yourexe anymore. and while you develop, you'll just keep hitting up-arrow & enter
<apeiros_>
it's not as if that'd break your hand or something…
<Dreamer3>
RSI is serious stuff
<richardjortega>
can anyone help me diagnose a regex?
<bougyman>
si
<richardjortega>
here's my string "Dined on 06/30/2012"
<richardjortega>
i'm pretty new to regex and i'm trying to extract the date
<richardjortega>
so i've tried [/\d+/]
<richardjortega>
and that'll match first instance, but i'm trying to get it all
<apeiros_>
richardjortega: so you want to match "06/30/2012" and \d+ matches "06" - so what do you have to add to the regex after the \d+?
<apeiros_>
what's the next character to match…
<apeiros_>
Dreamer3: I don't think you can beat up-arrow+enter by anything. but good luck trying.
<apeiros_>
and tell me when you've got something better.
<richardjortega>
the output desired would be "06/30/2012"
<Dreamer3>
yeah
<Dreamer3>
i'm going to go back to restricting things for now :)
<Dreamer3>
just have a few lines of loader in the bin i can rip out later
<Dreamer3>
*restructuring
<richardjortega>
so i'd need to escape forward slashes i believe using [/\/]
<richardjortega>
but that doesnt seem to work so well
<apeiros_>
\/ is correct
<apeiros_>
so you have /\d+/, and you add in \/, so you get /\d+\//
<richardjortega>
cool let me test it in rubular
<apeiros_>
(hint, you can use %r{regex} instead of /regex/, then you don't need to escape /'s)
<bougyman>
"Dined on 06/30/2012 and 08/15/2011".scan %r{\d\d/\d\d/\d\d\d\d}
<bougyman>
=> ["06/30/2012", "08/15/2011"]
<bougyman>
sorry ape, i pasted before I read the backscroll.
<bougyman>
apeiros_, that is.
<apeiros_>
bougy, np
<apeiros_>
I intended to lead him there. maybe just showing the end is just as fine…
<apeiros_>
buggyman? :)
<richardjortega>
that was pimp bougyman!
* apeiros_
prefers \d{4} over \d\d\d\d though
<richardjortega>
also apeiros i had a return of "06/30/"
<apeiros_>
richardjortega: yupp. so you missed out the final \d+
<richardjortega>
actually "06/"
<apeiros_>
then you missed another \d+ and another /
<apeiros_>
your regex is a recipe
<apeiros_>
if your recipe is not complete, it won't match all…
<rfx>
what's a good alternative to optparse?
<rue>
Dreamer3: Asher’s got a gem called develop, it might help. Maybe
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<richardjortega>
so it'd be like /\d+\/d+\/d+\
<rue>
apeiros_: Except a drink recipe
<Dreamer3>
rfx: i was just starting to use opt parse :)
<Dreamer3>
rfx: are you finding it unfit?
<rue>
rfx: Slop seems the most complete
<rfx>
rue: thanks, that was it
<rfx>
Dreamer3: optparse is just horrible
<rue>
Plus you can complain to inkjet if it doesn’t work
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<rfx>
=)
* rue
wonders if inkjet has a highlight on that
<Dreamer3>
nice
<Dreamer3>
i'll use this :)
<richardjortega>
so apeiros why wouldn't something like this work? "\d+\/d+\/d+" i get no matches
<apeiros_>
richardjortega: did you really use quotes?
<apeiros_>
/\d+\/d+\/d+/
<apeiros_>
that should work
<apeiros_>
with [], it'll only get you the first date, though
<apeiros_>
oh, wait
<richardjortega>
i didn't use the quotes
<apeiros_>
/\d+\/\d+\/\d+/
<apeiros_>
d+ is not the same as \d+
<apeiros_>
d+ literally means "one or more 'd' characters"
<richardjortega>
ok that worked fine!
<apeiros_>
bougyman's regex is more prexise, though
<richardjortega>
what's the diff between d+ and \d+
<apeiros_>
as said
<apeiros_>
d is the digit 'd'
<apeiros_>
\d is [0-9], any digit character
<richardjortega>
oh i see what confused me
<richardjortega>
it was the escape
<richardjortega>
the backslash is the only character used to escape the forward slash
<apeiros_>
mhm, you have to pay close attention to what you write
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<richardjortega>
i was reading the "\/\" as the way to escape the forward slash
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<richardjortega>
instead of just "\/"
<Asher>
Dreamer3 - the gem is 'development' see if that fits your needs, it's been great for me :)
<Dreamer3>
looking
<richardjortega>
apeiros thanks for the help
<richardjortega>
same to bougyman too!
<richardjortega>
this is way more comfortable than a stack overflow question ;(
<richardjortega>
:)
<Dreamer3>
hmmm
<Dreamer3>
why would you use this WITH bundler?
<Asher>
couldn't tell you - it was requested
<Asher>
so i made sure it worked
<Dreamer3>
ha
<Dreamer3>
ok
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<countdigi>
i like the pattern where when you commit the hooks do the knife upload auto
<countdigi>
sorry learning split w/ irssi :-)
<countdigi>
and had a couple mimosas
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<rue>
Asher: I like my name better -.-
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<rue>
It’s shorter and stuff
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<Asher>
fair :) just not what it's called atm! ;)
<erikh>
_._
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<erikh>
o o
<erikh>
_._
<erikh>
kitty!
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<rfx>
injekt: there?
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<Technodrome>
Good day
<Technodrome>
what are some popular web frameworks in ruby besides rails?
<mistym>
Technodrome: Sinatra
<Technodrome>
looking for something sorta in between
<Technodrome>
or maybe i should just use rails …heh …such a small app here though
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<andrewvos>
If you know Rails the use it. If you don't, then use Sinatra.
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<countdigi>
sinatra will teach u nut-n-bolts for sure
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<erikh>
padrino is inbetween as I understand it.
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<countdigi>
in human circumstances yielding so much prevails... so much more in a language such as ruby
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<rue>
Technodrome: Padrino, yes
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<rfx>
What's the preferred tool to convert markdown to HTML?
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<apeiros_>
rfx: I liked maruku. don't know how it is today, though.