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lewix >
what can ruby do that javascript can't? I tried to convince someone that ruby is a better language and failed ^^
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lewix, You can write code more quickly and more maintainably.
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centrx >
lewix, You can hammer a nail with a shoe and all sorts of tools
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centrx >
lewix, Ruby is optimized for programmer happiness and productivity.
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drbrain >
lewix: everything you can do with ruby you can do with javascript
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drbrain >
but each is better at some things than the other
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|jemc| >
deja-vu...
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|jemc| >
2014-06-02 13:22:42lewixa colleague asked me what can ruby do that js can't - surprisingly I couldn't come up with anything
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lewix >
|jemc|, yup
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|jemc| >
2014-06-02 13:26:39Rich_Morinlewix: Ruby allows me to write code that I enjoy looking at later; JS does not.
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|jemc| >
^ this one
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lewix >
|jemc|, I hadn't seen that actually
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lewix >
|jemc|, but i realized that i underestimated javascript
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|jemc| >
javascript is more powerful than a lot of people think - but in my opinion the syntax is too cumbersome
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which is why something like coffeescript is nice
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centrx >
Javascript is a full-fledged programming language.
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lianj >
with great threading support
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lianj: threading?
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unless you're talking about workers, js doesn't do threading
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lianj >
no one understands jokes anymore
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ari-_-e >
that would be a good joke if lack of threading support was a big problem, but it isn't really...
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lianj >
for the "full-fledged programming language" statement i thin kit is
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|jemc| >
well, if proper concurrency tools are a language requirement, ruby might be suspect as well...
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miqui >
hi, anybody seen this nasty glibc error on ubuntu?
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jammanbo >
Is there some hacky way to override the writer for an instance variable? Code is like @foo = bar; I'd like to hook into that and apply a transformation to bar.
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bnagy >
def foo= bar; #modify bar
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jammanbo >
hmm, that work when the variable is being assigned directly?
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bnagy >
that doesn't happen
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canton7 >
whit what? overriding foo= won't affect someone assigning @foo
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bnagy >
well.. it does, but that's not how attr_* works
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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jammanbo >
ja, that's why I was carful to call this a hack. This @foo= is the only place I can hook into this unless I redefine the whole method.
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bnagy >
sorry when you said 'the writer for' I assumed you meant attr_writer etc
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jammanbo >
apologies
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bnagy >
there's no way I know to hook variable assignment itself
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jammanbo >
goddamnit … this code has accessors for foo, could have been so easy, but it is mostly coded directly against @foo.
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canton7 >
that's fair enough :P
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can you modify it when it's read instead of when it's written?
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trying to, it would be preferable, but for reasons I haven't yet figured out that's not working.
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oh … spoke too soon
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kingpong1 >
#rubyonrails
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[spoiler] >
kingpong1, we're more fun
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kingpong1 >
hi guys
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kingpong1 >
any help on this
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kingpong1 >
#rubyonrails but no ideas so far
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kingpong1 >
[spoiler]: :)
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kingpong1, I could probably figure it out if I messed with it, but I'm not at home and I'm not an expert on Rails or SQL to be able to write it off the top of my head
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DefV >
kingpong1: VenueProduct model has a relation with Product, but that's not reflected in your models
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DefV >
looks like VenueProduct belongs_to :product
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[spoiler] >
DefV, they decided not to go public with their relationship yet
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DefV >
and Product has_(one|many) :venue_products
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yorickpeterse >
internet is crappy today so I'm serving my local list of Gems for a co-worker
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yorickpeterse >
so he can do a bundle install
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heh
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[spoiler] >
good guy gem-server
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[spoiler] >
sounds weird, ngl
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yorickpeterse >
Good guy fiber ISP with crappy network
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yorickpeterse >
SLA and all that, but can't deliver proper internet
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yorickpeterse >
10% packet loss atm with a 100ms ping or so to El Google
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yorickpeterse >
at least SSH still works
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DefV >
with compression? :-)
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yorickpeterse >
yes
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matti >
Fellow Ruby Mongers.
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[spoiler] >
Hai matti
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yorickpeterse >
ARGH FRUIT FLIES EVERYWHERE
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yorickpeterse >
I must've killed a thousand by now
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yorickpeterse >
They keep rising from the grave
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surrounder >
zomg zombies
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surrounder >
never trusted their red eyes in the first place
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yorickpeterse >
I need one of those carnivorous plants
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yorickpeterse >
Already suggested this earlier today at the office but got no replies :<
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yorickpeterse >
I want one of those plants I can park in the door opening so nobody enters our room
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yorickpeterse >
because they'll be eaten by the plant
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surrounder >
hehehe
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apeiros >
yorickpeterse: I think a lemon half with cloves in it helps (iirc)
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apeiros >
might be that I misremember. been a while since I had to get rid of them :)
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yorickpeterse >
Yeah somebody suggested a peasant solution here as well
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yorickpeterse >
I think we can afford a carnivorous plant
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apeiros >
venus flytrap?
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yorickpeterse >
I'm not settling with the practical and easy solution
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apeiros: yeah
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apeiros >
sounds fun. but I think they take ages to digest a single fly
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yorickpeterse >
"When grown from seed, plants take around four to five years to reach maturity and will live for 20 to 30 years if cultivated in the right conditions."
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yorickpeterse >
I think if I feed it enough co-workers it will last longer than that
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But jesus, 20-30 years is a lot
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yorickpeterse >
"Digestion takes about ten days"
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yorickpeterse >
Hmpf
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yorickpeterse >
that means I'll need around a 100 of them
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not very webscale
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yorickpeterse >
Well, if we'd do this like programming we'd just throw money at it
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yorickpeterse >
plants are cheap, just buy 100s of them
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yorickpeterse: I use vacuum
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yorickpeterse >
You live in a vacuum?
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yorickpeterse >
dayum
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oddmunds >
yorickpeterse: you should go for the source
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yorickpeterse >
also our vacuum cleaner can hardly suck up crumbs
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yorickpeterse >
let alone fruit flies
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oddmunds >
throw out garbage
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oddmunds >
throw out plants
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yorickpeterse >
oddmunds: we did that already
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yorickpeterse >
we have a "no eating at desk policy" as a result :<
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yorickpeterse >
can't even have cereal at my desk
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: then throw it out
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oddmunds >
not even cereal D:
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whitequark >
oh, right, EU has that idiotic directive about 1kW vacuum cleaner
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whitequark >
smuggle a powerful one from RU.
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: I already suggested getting a better one
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yorickpeterse >
but alas
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oddmunds >
what if you have like eight
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oddmunds >
and funnel them into one
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yorickpeterse >
8 shitty ones?
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yorickpeterse >
it's not like their powers combine or something
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oddmunds >
they do if you make them share nozzle
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whitequark >
2vaccums1nozzle
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yorickpeterse >
More like some weird power ranger vacuum cleaner
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yorickpeterse >
But no, I'd prefer to have one of those fancy Dyson vacuum cleaners
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yorickpeterse >
pretty sure you can murder somebody with those
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whitequark >
you mean a cyclone?
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whitequark >
Dyson is like, Dr Dre of cyclone vacuum cleaners
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: hey I know nothing about vacuum cleaners
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yorickpeterse >
All I know is that Dyson ones look like they come from the future
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yorickpeterse >
and since it's a vacuum cleaner it's probably evil
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yorickpeterse >
Just like printers
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oddmunds >
3xVacuum
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whitequark >
that just looks dirty
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oddmunds >
yeah, it's full of fruit flies
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whitequark >
also yes, it would work
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oddmunds >
you can use it to get 1/3 power too
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oddmunds >
by flipping the nozzle
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whitequark >
what would also work is making the nozzle 3x thinner (by section surface area)
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yorickpeterse >
oddmunds: hahaha
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whitequark >
i.e. sqrt(3) less by diameter
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whitequark >
man bernoulli laws
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yorickpeterse >
that looks like some weird chicken leg cut off
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oddmunds >
i'll call it The Bernoover
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seems I've convinced at least one other co-worker that we need a human eating plant
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yorickpeterse >
soon (tm)
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lewix >
I have the following controller "api/v1/tag_containers" - i have trouble creating a route for it
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lewix >
i tried get "/api/campaign_setup/project/:id/tag_containers" => "tag_containers#get_tag_containers_by_project_id" , controller: /api\/v1\/\/[^\/]+/
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lewix >
wrong channel sheesh
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I have a stacktrace of 86 frames
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2 of those are in the actual app
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The rest is all ActiveBloat, New Relic stuff, etc
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ugh
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put it in your pipe
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and smoke it
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I don't smoke
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you better start
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I only drink tea
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and orange juice
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^ that's not actually a joke
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ok I drink apple juice at times too, and rarely a beer when I'm out with friends
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hey folks.. i thought case/when supported something like: case size; when 1 && othervar > 1; ?
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case; when size == 1 && othervar > 1
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good enough!
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how can i get #distinct to work?
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kingpong1: might try #rubyonrails for rails methods
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The mysterious case of "why the fuck is my before_filter not executed in the right order for this one controller"
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They are supposed to be executed in order of definition, they are defined in the right order
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yorickpeterse >
This one is not disabled, yet it is not executed
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yorickpeterse >
which is kinda crucial since it performs authentication...
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yorickpeterse >
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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havenwood: .distinct.execute maybe ?
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