<matti>
yorickpeterse: Java is for people who likes Rambo movies.
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<yorickpeterse>
but....I don't mind Rambo movies :<
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<yorickpeterse>
I think Java is more for those that prefer to let their IDE write everything for them
<yorickpeterse>
and then claim how it's enterprise and webscale
<matti>
yorickpeterse: This is still better than Perl.
<matti>
yorickpeterse: Where you let your cat do the work.
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<yorickpeterse>
I'm not sure if I'd consider Perl to be worse than Java
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<matti>
Java is nice.
<matti>
You can build this nice applet that will load in your browser.
<matti>
Look like software from '70s and consume all the CPU time there is.
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<matti>
;]
<maloik>
Anyone happen to have an idea of how to create a link to google maps based on lat and long? I'm surprised that geokit doesn't seem to have this, unless I'm overlooking it
<whitequark>
java is a sane way to deploy ruby webapps though
<matti>
yorickpeterse: Also, think JRuby. The unwanted child of a Cup of Coffee and a Ruby stone.
<matti>
whitequark: JRuby is fine, indeed.
<yorickpeterse>
at least JRuby lets me write mostly Ruby
<matti>
yorickpeterse: We need JBrainfuck.
<matti>
yorickpeterse: With JIT.
<yorickpeterse>
it would still take 2 decades to start up though
<matti>
Haha
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<matti>
yorickpeterse: That's why Java is "Fire and forget" (FOF) software. You cannot be bothered to start it again.
<matti>
Ahh, this brings memories. Running things atop JBoss.
<yorickpeterse>
Right, time to add a license file to 82 repositories
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<yorickpeterse>
ugh, 29 repositories to go at least
<yorickpeterse>
Have to do it by hand too since some repositories contain bogus licenses, plus I need to change gemspecs
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<ljarvis>
moin
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<darix>
yorickpeterse: and maybe check all ruby files that they have a license header?
<darix>
or dont have a license header that contradicts the license file
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<darix>
and yay for putting license in gemspec
<yorickpeterse>
darix: nah they don't have license headers
<ljarvis>
yay more rob harassment
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: he's back at it?
<ljarvis>
on the tweeters
<yorickpeterse>
lemme see
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<darix>
link?
<yorickpeterse>
Hey he's not following me anymore
<darix>
yorickpeterse: i am just mentioning some of the fun points i have when packaging things :)
<ljarvis>
only just noticed it, it was a couple weeks ago
<ljarvis>
yorickpeterse: which account? lolz
<ljarvis>
there's another new one
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: it was johhny5 or something
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<maloik>
wow, wicked good ruby conf is being canceled :o
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<wmoxam>
wat
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<yorickpeterse>
wat
<maloik>
blowmage: are you around by any chance? my colleague pointed me towards the google group for conf organizers a few days/weeks ago, but my request to join hasn't been accepted yet
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<maloik>
and yea it's been canceled unless they find sponsors, and fast
<maloik>
there's some other reasons but I'm not sure if they're public (got that from my colleague in the google group i just mentioned)
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* yorickpeterse
is writing Java again
<yorickpeterse>
._.
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<workmad3>
yorickpeterse: that's a really bad habit... you should try group therapy to break it
<workmad3>
jwa - java writers anonymous
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<yorickpeterse>
I'll treat it with an overdose of Ruby
<yorickpeterse>
dayum, maven compiles without a single error
<workmad3>
woo! now you just need to see if the thing works...
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<yorickpeterse>
it actually does
<yorickpeterse>
._. I just went enterprise
<yorickpeterse>
again
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<darix>
*gna* make install with DESTDIR broken in trunk
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<yorickpeterse>
ooh ooh, about to open the gates of ~1 year of open sauce work
<yorickpeterse>
here's to none of those having DB configs any more
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<yorickpeterse>
joevandyk: looks like network activity without a timeout
<yorickpeterse>
errr
<yorickpeterse>
in a loop or something like that
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<joevandyk>
yorickpeterse: yes, but i'm not sure how to find out exactly why that is
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<yorickpeterse>
hard to tell from the outside
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<darix>
joevandyk: something is stuck in a deadlock while waiting for a lock
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<vick_>
So, I've decided to learn Ruby. I need a big, thick, reference-type book. I'm thinking along the lines of 'The C++ Programming Language', 'Programming Perl' etc... What is the current Ruby Bible? Seems 'The Ruby Prog. Lang' must be good, but it's not very new... Has Ruby changed a lot since 2008? Or maybe you'd recommend something else?
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<ari-_-e>
vick_: there's also the pickaxe
<ari-_-e>
but Flanagan's book should still be very useful
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<|jemc|>
vick_: Has Ruby changed a lot since 2008?
<vick_>
Thanks. 'The pickaxe' is "Programming Ruby: The Pragmatic Programmers' Guide", right?
<vick_>
Yeah, basically I'm interested in current state-of-the-art.
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<vick_>
<ari-_-e>: Looks like that's what I wanted. Thanks!
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<orange-tiger>
Hi I am new to ruby and have a quick question. If you have a class, say SomeClass, what is the difference between SomeClass.new(*args) and SomeClass(*args). I’m specifically looking at Nokogiri::HTML at http://nokogiri.org/Nokogiri/HTML.html
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<|jemc|>
orange-tiger: SomeClass.new(*args) calls :new on SomeClass - the standard way to create an object
<|jemc|>
SomeClass(*args) calls the :SomeClass function, which is not a very idiomatic way to create an object in Ruby
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<|jemc|>
in fact the :SomeClass function could return anything
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<|jemc|>
(well, :new could techinically return anything as well, but that's far less common)
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<orange-tiger>
|jemc|: what is happening when you call URI("http://google.com")? URI is a module, right?
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<ari-_-e>
|jemc|: what is :new ?
<ari-_-e>
the symbol?
<|jemc|>
ari-_-e: what's new, you ask? nothing much
<ari-_-e>
orange-tiger: URI is a method
<|jemc|>
ari-_-e: I was using the symbol form as a nod to the .send syntax