apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<numdig> GOOOOOD MOOOORNING!
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<Sinco_> Hi, I'm new to Ruby but am currently trying to develop a small script to list some information about snapshots from the Amazon AWS API(aws-sdk-core gem). The API returns an array of hashes. I need to search that array of hashes to find the specific value of a hash if the hash contains the right key name. I've got this snippet working but it looks ugly, so wondering if there is a better way to do it: snapshot_name = (
<Sinco_> snapshot.tags.select{|tag| tag['key'] == 'Name'}.count > 0) ? snapshot.tags.select{|tag| tag['key'] == 'Name'}[0].value : ''
<Sinco_> Snippet: snapshot_name = (snapshot.tags.select{|tag| tag['key'] == 'Name'}.count > 0) ? snapshot.tags.select{|tag| tag['key'] == 'Name'}[0].value : ''
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<canton7> Sinco_, pastie it
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<Sinco_> Pastie: http://pastebin.com/4UxD44h4 - Access keys, account id's etc. has been removed from the pastie
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<canton7> Sinco_, split that out into a temp var
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<Sinco_> canton7: Yeah, I know I can split it into a temp var, but isn't there are "prettier" way to perform the search to get the value?
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<canton7> Sinco_, I'd do 'snapshot = snapshot.tags.find{ |tag| tag['key'] == 'Name'; snapshot_name = snapshot ? snapshot.value : ''
<canton7> or some such
<canton7> with correct syntax of course
<canton7> (missing a }
<Sinco_> canton7: Allright - Thanks for the help :)
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<Sinco_> canton7: That really made the code much cleaner:) But I noticed that you used tags.find instead of the tags.select that I used, can you explain why? Just wanting to learn :)
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<canton7> Sinco_, #select finds all the entires which match the filter, so you were having to select the first entry using [0]
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<canton7> ..but you only used the first entry. #find is similar to #select, but it only returns the first entry which matches
<canton7> (and returns nil if no such entry could be found)
<canton7> so it better expresses what you're trying to do
<Sinco_> canton7: Very cool and thanks a lot - Awesome input :)
<canton7> and you get rid of a call to #count, and the [0], to boot
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<Steve_Miller> hi
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<Steve_Ford> test
<tbuehlmann> we can read you
<Steve_Ford> cu
<Steve_Ford> sorry hi
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<yorickpeterse> yay writing papers
<yorickpeterse> and yay for waiting 15 years for Pandoc to compile
<matti> Yay, seeing happy yorickpeterse!
<matti> ;]
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<yorickpeterse> pffft I had my fun of messing around with gnuplot so I'm not really grumpy
<yorickpeterse> But writing papers is a bit annoying because you have to do it in academic English
<matti> What English is it?
<yorickpeterse> "We describe a system to accurately and reliably measure the performance of bla bla bla"
<yorickpeterse> Plain English: "We set up benchmarks yo"
<matti> The one with correct grammar and superb punctuation?
<yorickpeterse> Yeah and referring to everything in plural
<yorickpeterse> and using 789234 tables and references
<matti> Right.
<yorickpeterse> and having a footnotes section longer than the paper itself
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<matti> I love writing papers.
<yorickpeterse> I have 6 lines so far
<matti> Abstract the funniest part.
* matti deep down is still an academic ;]
<yorickpeterse> wtf why the hell does pandoc need "crypto-random"
<yorickpeterse> I never did university so I suck at this
<yorickpeterse> I'll academify it once I'm done writing it in regular English
<matti> yorickpeterse: I dropped out, so I only semi suck ;]
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<yorickpeterse> I did photography for 6 months, then quit
<yorickpeterse> you don't write papers in the photography world :P
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<matti> ;p
<matti> I suppose, depends on the type of photos ;p
<matti> "I am all into X-ray"
<matti> ;p
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<roelof> Are the any good books about ruby and OO programming so I learn more about sending messages to another object ?
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<centrx> roelof, This is the standard for Ruby: http://pragprog.com/book/ruby4/programming-ruby
<centrx> roelof, You can view a very old version of the same book online for free at http://ruby-doc.com/docs/ProgrammingRuby/
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<centrx> roelof, In some ways, message passing is just the same as method calling but a different way of thinking about it
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<whitequark> there's no method_missing in method calling.
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<canton7> and calling methods by name is sorta a grey area
<whitequark> not really. there's early binding ("method calling") and late binding ("message passing")
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<whitequark> one allows you to resolve methods at runtime, other doesn't
<centrx> aha
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<canton7> I guess something like C# is both early and late bound then - methods can be called, or messages sent, depending on whether or not you're using the reflection API
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<roelof> I tried to make a object oriented answer to this problem : http://pastebin.com/JcYFZY4n
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<roelof> or a curried one but also that I find very difficult
<centrx> cool
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<roelof> anyone has a example how I could do that ?
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<centrx> roelof, Have a Calc instance contain a current @value (a number)
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<centrx> roelof, and I guess it would have a @state for whether the last method called was an operation or a number
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<centrx> roelof, Define [:one, :two, :three, :four].each { |meth| define_method(meth) etc }
<canton7> roelof, very simple proof-of-concept: https://ideone.com/7p2x6S
<centrx> roelof, But really it would be better to use methods and attributes like they are supposed to
<canton7> roelof, obviously, don't define 'one', 'two', 'three', etc, by hand - use define_method
<canton7> and you need some proper error-checking in operate()
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<roelof> pfff and this schould be a beginner problem. Im now a few days busy
<whitequark> canton7: C# is early bound but the CLR is late bound.
<roelof> canton7: I will try to find info on define_method
<canton7> whitequark, figures, thanks
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<roelof> canton7: you mean something like this : define_method (:one) { @one = 1 } ??
<canton7> roelof, half way there :P
<roelof> :(
<canton7> as in, create a hash of 'one' => 1, 'two' => 2, 'three' => 3, etc, and iterate over the hash, defining methods for each pair
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<canton7> more like the "real ultimate power" bit
<roelof> that what I meant
<roelof> thanks, I will try things out
<canton7> roelof, do you understand how the example I sent you works?
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<roelof> canton7: you mean the OO way ? I will also study that one
<canton7> hmm? you haven't yet studied the example I sent?
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<roelof> Can someone understand so quick something. Me not. I have to look very carefully at things and try some things
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<canton7> it doesn't do very much :P but fair enough
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<roelof> but what I see is that you have a variable sum which contains the solution and a function called operate which make the calculation or take care that for example 1 + 1 is calculated
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<roelof> canton7: am i at the right way ??
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<another_guest> Hey guys. I read the tutorial on Rubygems about creating gems, but I can't seem to find a good Requirements & Best Practices list or something of the sort. For example, if my gem patches Class, how do I include that in the gem? Just write it as it is? I've seen someone write a module and then do Object.send(:include, module). Is that a standard way
<another_guest> of doing it?
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<Mon_Ouie> You can just define methods on class. You might consider using refinements so that those monkey patches aren't always enabled.
<wallerdev> it worries me that your gem patches Class lol
<another_guest> Why's that?
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<wallerdev> because of the potential to break other libraries
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<another_guest> What are some of the ways it can break other libraries that I should watch out for?
<wallerdev> just changing the behavior of any existing method can break things
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<Mon_Ouie> And since monkey patches aren't namespaced, the potential that someone else decides to define that method. Hence my suggestion to use refinements.
<wallerdev> yeah
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<another_guest> I see, thanks
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<whitequark> do jruby or rbx even implement refinements?
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<whitequark> no.
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<another_guest> Using refinements will make the gem not compatible with 1.9.3, right?
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<whitequark> yes
<whitequark> and all other implementations of ruby
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* yorickpeterse slaps moogumbo with a large smelly trout
<yorickpeterse> DANG IT
<yorickpeterse> wrong one
<yorickpeterse> Oh, Mon_Quie already ran
<yorickpeterse> I'll get you next time!
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<croe93> Hello.
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<cymoc> hello croe93
<croe93> What's up?
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<imperator> enocontext
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