<ljarvis>
gauravb7090: join #rvm; sorry I'm not debugging rvm shit
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<gauravb7090>
I wanted to use roo and nokogiri but can't use it with 1.8.7 :(
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<gauravb7090>
okay :) thanks :)
<ljarvis>
it's doing something weird with gcc arguments
<yorickpeterse>
oh sheeee, we actually have some customers in Brighton
<yorickpeterse>
oh...inactive contracts
<yorickpeterse>
dang it
<ljarvis>
hah
<ljarvis>
I think im gonna stay in brighton the night before too
<ljarvis>
can't be fucked with morning travel
<yorickpeterse>
Well, with KLM I'd be flying in on Caturday
<yorickpeterse>
tha saves me about 100 Euros
<ljarvis>
lol caturday
<ljarvis>
and gives you 2 days to explore
<ljarvis>
:/
<yorickpeterse>
"explore" everybody knows it will rain
<ljarvis>
NO
<ljarvis>
it actually probably wont. I would wager against it at that time anyway
<ljarvis>
in contrary to the rest of the year
<benlovell>
can probs squeeze someone in at my hotel
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<yorickpeterse>
I'm not sharing beds
<ljarvis>
NO DEAL
<ljarvis>
how else will you keep warm in the british cold
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<workmad3>
ljarvis: just buy a nice warm british summer anorak
<ljarvis>
:D
<ljarvis>
I have many
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<yorickpeterse>
Hmm...hostels would be a heck of a lot cheaper
<yorickpeterse>
but then I have to share the room with shavs
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<workmad3>
yorickpeterse: you mean chavs?
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<teotwaki>
Hi, I'm trying to get NewRelic instrumentation to work with Grape mounted on RackUp; would this channel be the right place to ask for help? Apologies in advance if it isn't.
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<yorickpeterse>
workmad3: yeah those
<workmad3>
teotwaki: I'd suggest your first port of call is probably better as #newrelic personally
<maloik>
well damn, iOS certificate bullshit is a serious pain in the ass
<teotwaki>
workmad3: thanks, will do.
<maloik>
too me an hour to figure that shit out
<ljarvis>
maloik: yup!
<workmad3>
teotwaki: as I'm assuming you've already followed the newrelic guide on setting up the monitoring for a rack app and are having a specific newrelic problem? :)
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<ljarvis>
benlovell: are you just staying the sunday eve?
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<ljarvis>
you live in reading or something dont you?
<workmad3>
ljarvis: btw, something is really wrong with the weather where I am at the moment...
<ljarvis>
where are you?
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<workmad3>
ljarvis: manchester
<yorickpeterse>
hahahaah Ruby:
<workmad3>
ljarvis: where there's.... sun...
<teotwaki>
workmad3: Not quite, working in development exclusively at the moment, and not really getting the same visualisation as I'm seeing on some blog posts, so just wondering whether my instrumentation was setup properly or not. It looks to be OK, so I'm just going to leg it and see what happens.
<yorickpeterse>
So I'm like "ok, I'll do `gem 'json', '= 1.8.1'`
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<yorickpeterse>
same problem
<yorickpeterse>
so I think "ok lets use 1.8.0"
<workmad3>
ljarvis: I'm hoping the rain will return later today :)
<yorickpeterse>
then I get "can't activate json-1.8.0, already activated json-1.8.1"
<yorickpeterse>
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
<benlovell>
ljarvis: yah i'm in reading, staying sunday and monday
<ljarvis>
workmad3: last time I went to manchester (about 2 months ago) I couldn't see more than 100 foot in front or me
<ljarvis>
benlovell: ah nice
<teotwaki>
I'm in southern France; were supposed to have a nice 35C like yesterday, but the sea decided to muck the sky up.
<workmad3>
ljarvis: :D
<benlovell>
damn sea
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<ljarvis>
I'm going to Malta on Tuesday
<workmad3>
ljarvis: drats... just checked and the BBC thinks this unnatural sun is going to persist until tomorrow :(
<ljarvis>
workmad3: tell them to send it down south
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<workmad3>
ljarvis: I could try... but all the people I know in the BBC are in sports, not in the weather control department...
<ljarvis>
the weather in basingstoke is shit
<maloik>
it's quite nice over here in belgium actually
<maloik>
predictions state 25* over the weekend, maybe even today I don't really know
<workmad3>
maloik: heh :) send some nice weather to ljarvis then... and send some chocolate my way (haven't had belgium chocolate for a while :) )
<workmad3>
*belgian
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* teotwaki
waves at maloik (fellow belgian)
<maloik>
teotwaki: really? who are you? :-)
<maloik>
workmad3: come over for arrrrcamp :D
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<maloik>
I'll make sure to have some ready
<teotwaki>
I used to get that question though, when I moved to France... "Hey, I know this Belgian guy, called Fred, do you know him?"
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<ljarvis>
lol @ "who are you?"
<maloik>
I meant real name, you dipshit :(
<workmad3>
maloik: bah... one of these days I'll have to get to a ruby conf
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<ljarvis>
workmad3: come to brighton
<ljarvis>
still tickets
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<maloik>
teotwaki: so I suppose you don't make it out to a lot of ruby burgers / BRUG events?
<teotwaki>
not yet :)
<teotwaki>
Just started out with ruby couple weeks ago
<maloik>
oh ok
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<maloik>
hmm that's weird, I've seen your name somewhere before
<benlovell>
probably teowaki
<benlovell>
javier ramirez' startup
<maloik>
ah right
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<maloik>
that's the one
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<benlovell>
i did a wat too
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<yorickpeterse>
wat
<maloik>
teotwaki: not family of frank lauwers by any chance, are you?
<teotwaki>
not that I remember
<teotwaki>
Then again, I don't know most of my family, so...
<workmad3>
ljarvis: don't think my wife would appreciate me vanishing on that short a notice... and not on a weekend we're busy on already either...
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: does Brighton have some kind of campsite? I might just get a fucking tent or something
<yorickpeterse>
or just sleep under a tree
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<yorickpeterse>
guess I better /nick hermitpeterse
<workmad3>
yorickpeterse: you don't want to risk sleeping under a tree in britain... if you don't get rained on overnight, the chavs will steal your sleeping bag and trainers...
<ohsix>
from what i saw in London to Brighton it has some
<yorickpeterse>
workmad3: hm good point
<maloik>
you should probably consider yourself lucky if it's just rain, too
<workmad3>
maloik: well, it's july in southern england... snow is probably off the table
<workmad3>
although I guess there is the chance of a freak hurricane or similar...
<maloik>
I was hinting at being pissed on
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<maloik>
I actually saw that happen a while back, some drunk guy taking a leak on a sleeping homeless man
<workmad3>
maloik: I did wonder if you were being crude :)
<maloik>
think about it though... that's a horror scenario right there
<maloik>
wouldn't want to wake up to that
<workmad3>
maloik: I can think of worse than being pissed on...
<maloik>
well I guess..
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<maloik>
(now I'm thinking you're the one being crude)
<maloik>
:D
<workmad3>
maloik: cruder, yes ;)
<workmad3>
maloik: and while I've not encountered a man doing that on someone in manchester, I have encountered people doing it into closed shop doors at night...
<ljarvis>
yorickpeterse: haha, benlovell already offered squeezing you in at his hotel
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<yorickpeterse>
I'd still have to pay
<ljarvis>
well yeah but it's going to be cheaper
<benlovell>
yorickpeterse: nah forget dat
<ljarvis>
well no you wont*
<yorickpeterse>
benlovell: I'm not going to freeload on others
<benlovell>
i didn't pay either, bro
<yorickpeterse>
wat
<yorickpeterse>
oh wait yeah you're speaking
<yorickpeterse>
haha
<benlovell>
uhuh
<ljarvis>
you'd still need sat night though if you come then
<yorickpeterse>
I'm not sure if it's very nice to freeload on that
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<benlovell>
cripes, just stay in my hotel don't worry about the ethics :)
<benlovell>
i'm sure nobody will mind
<ljarvis>
such ethical
<benlovell>
amaze
<maloik>
organizers often do room checks though, better be scared!
<maloik>
:P
<yorickpeterse>
benlovell: but you have multiple rooms or what?
<yorickpeterse>
Last I checked you were not a sjeik with a delegation of 500 women
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<ljarvis>
yes he booked 3 rooms for himself
<yorickpeterse>
haha
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<benlovell>
i got the whole floor
<yorickpeterse>
benlovell: either way, my point being is that somewhere in the back of my head I can imagine it happening that people are like "lol you're not allowed here, get out m8"
<benlovell>
nah m8 leave it out m8
<benlovell>
well, it's up to you. offer stands
<benlovell>
if not, see you under the tree.
<yorickpeterse>
well I appreciate it, but I'm curious how it would work out
<benlovell>
you come into room. you leave room. world turns.
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<yorickpeterse>
That sounds....fishy
<yorickpeterse>
Do I need to wear a dress?
<benlovell>
lol.
<ljarvis>
what's the point if it's coming off
<benlovell>
it helps
<benlovell>
hahaha
<workmad3>
ljarvis: public decency laws are a PITA...
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: getting past reception is harder when naked
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<ljarvis>
lol reception
<ljarvis>
they have seen worse
<ljarvis>
it's brighton after all
<yorickpeterse>
All I know of Brighton is that it has a pier
<ljarvis>
lots of men in dresses
<yorickpeterse>
benlovell: but so you're there from Sunday to what day?
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<ljarvis>
it's painful how difficult this has become
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: I'm a very difficult person
<yorickpeterse>
like, I have serious issues with taking up offers from others
<workmad3>
ljarvis: also, modern britain... the hotel staff wouldn't *dare* say anything about 2 men sharing a room for fear of being classed as discriminatory...
<benlovell>
+brighton
<yorickpeterse>
well I could pretend to be his son
<benlovell>
haha
<maloik>
in a dress?
<yorickpeterse>
Except I'm not orange and having a kid at, what, 15? would be odd
<yorickpeterse>
Then again it's the UK
<workmad3>
maloik: still wouldn't be particularly weird...
<ljarvis>
:D
<workmad3>
yorickpeterse: if you believe the daily mail, not having a kid at 15 would be the odd situation...
<roelof>
apeiros: when I changed it like this return Date.new(date[/\d{4}/]`.to_i,12,25).strftime("%A") I see a error message on codewars. Invalid ruby
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<workmad3>
roelof: you copied a ` across
<ljarvis>
:D
<apeiros>
roelof: because… what workmad3 said
<ljarvis>
fancy elipsis is fancy
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<roelof>
thanks, That was the part that took me the longest to get working
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<yorickpeterse>
whitequark: backwards compatibility with something I believe
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<maloik>
apeiros: seeing as you're in the rubymotion channel, you wouldn't happen to know about my last question?
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<yorickpeterse>
welp, requested days off for Brighton
<yorickpeterse>
guess we're doing this
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<apeiros>
maloik: while I bought rubymotion the day it came out, I still haven't used it :(
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<maloik>
:-(
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<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: the fuck is up with Heathrow -> Brighton being just as expensive as Stansted -> Brighton
<yorickpeterse>
Like, it would actually be a good attempt
<momomomomo>
a little bit now since you came off as an ass earlier
<yorickpeterse>
We're not using RPM, but the setup is similar to it
<yorickpeterse>
Just not distro specific
<dvxam>
yorickpeterse : are you really lookin for ruby tutorial on an ASP website??
<benlovell>
this has gone meta now
<yorickpeterse>
Since we don't really need any of the distro specific bits when it comes to packaging (e.g. all the requirements of Debian packages)
<benlovell>
when trolls go bad
<momomomomo>
yorickpeterse: what are you deploying on / why is this such a unique use case?
<yorickpeterse>
We're deploying on a variable number of EC2 instances that can range from 25 to over 9000. You don't want those instances to start yelling at RubyGems during a deployment
<yorickpeterse>
Because if RubyGems goes down, which it does, then you can't deploy
<yorickpeterse>
Same goes for Github
<kingpong1>
universa1: how do i select all likes and copy then in vim
<kingpong1>
how do i select all likes and copy then in vim
<yorickpeterse>
kingpong1: wrong channel
<yorickpeterse>
I think
<kingpong1>
sorry
<kingpong1>
:)
<kingpong1>
any way
<yorickpeterse>
either way, by pre-packaging everything an app needs you take out those middlemen
<kingpong1>
do u know
<kingpong1>
answr
<yorickpeterse>
The only dependency in this case is S3
<yorickpeterse>
It also makes deployments faster, since you only have to install stuff once
<yorickpeterse>
This also is a downside though. If you're using C extensions and your OS changes too much you have to re-install those (possibly)
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<yorickpeterse>
And now apparently Bundler thinks its ok to just install stuff
<yorickpeterse>
(during runtime)
<yorickpeterse>
Which means I'll probably have to firewall RubyGems out as a start
<momomomomo>
well yorickpeterse of course, that's nothing new
<momomomomo>
i'm wondering why it has to be distro specific
<momomomomo>
erm
<yorickpeterse>
It doesn't have to be
<momomomomo>
not*
<yorickpeterse>
Because like I said, we don't need anything distro specific package wise
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<yorickpeterse>
Why do I need to read up on how to package things for CentOS when I can just run `tar -cvf .` and be done with it?
<yorickpeterse>
Why do I then have to install stuff in to /usr/whatever/foo/bar
<yorickpeterse>
and include metadata files and all that
<momomomomo>
not saying that you do - I enjoy using buildroot to build some docker containers
<yorickpeterse>
Docker might be a future option, I haven't looked into that yet
<momomomomo>
which is essentially a linux flavor for embedded devices
<yorickpeterse>
it's certainly an interesting option
<yorickpeterse>
I know what containers are
<momomomomo>
I'm deploying a large app with it now
<momomomomo>
it has its strengths, but there are some weird cases to get used to
<yorickpeterse>
" + and y in that order (keep them all pressed)
<yorickpeterse>
err wait, you don't have to keep them pressed
<yorickpeterse>
so just " followed by + followed by y
<kingpong1>
do i select first wit shift V
<kingpong1>
?
<yorickpeterse>
yes
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<kingpong1>
so i hold shift when pressing y?
<kingpong1>
:))
<kingpong1>
this is funny
<kingpong1>
ok will try
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<yorickpeterse>
No, you only hold shift for the " and +
<kingpong1>
thanks
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<kingpong1>
ur patience rocks
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<kingpong1>
ended up using gvim
<kingpong1>
please tell me when i know how to use vim it will speed up dev
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<yorickpeterse>
2-3 months in
<yorickpeterse>
depending on how often you use it
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<kingpong1>
how to check if thin is running on my remote linux server
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<yorickpeterse>
SSH in to the machine and check the process list?
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<kingpong1>
ps tree
<kingpong1>
what was the command
<kalleth>
ps aux
<kalleth>
ps uaxfww
<kalleth>
ps -allthethings
<kalleth>
then | grep thin
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<kingpong1>
ok im confused
<kingpong1>
onw command guys
<kingpong1>
one*
<FiXato>
ps aux | grep thin
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<kingpong1>
will that work on my local machine
<kingpong1>
because i am running thin on my local machine
<kingpong1>
and when running i get
<FiXato>
`ps aux` will return a list of all running processes for any user. the | is a pipe which will allow to pass the results of the previous command to be passed on to the command after the |, in this case `grep thin` which will filter and just return the results that match 'thin'
<havenwood>
and #slice_outside, #slice_each_cons, #slice_chunk, #slice_of_bread
<havenwood>
<ljarvis>
this is almost as bad as the proposed &.x syntax
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<yorickpeterse>
slice_of_ruby
<yorickpeterse>
Then of course somebody will propose 5 aliases for every method
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<SkramX>
hi all - having issues with ruby 2.0.0 Time.strptime parsing "2014-06-05T300347Z". I try Time.strptime("2014-06-05T300347","%Y-%m-%dT%6N") but it says %6N is invalid it seems
<jhass>
kingpong1: looks like a #rubyonrails question
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<kingpong1>
i know but
<kingpong1>
no answers there
<kingpong1>
bit slow ..
<kingpong1>
?
<ljarvis>
kingpong1: calling scope() inside product_counts() is not valid
<jhass>
answers after up to two or three hours later are normal on IRC
<kingpong1>
ok jhass
<kingpong1>
didnt knw
<kingpong1>
u guys hre are tons more helpful
<kingpong1>
sorry to say
<kingpong1>
:~
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<FiXato>
that's the beauty of IRC: it is asynchronous, so people can reply at their own convenience
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<kingpong1>
ljarvis: i was thinking to call ProductCategory.joins(:products, :venue_products).where(:venue_products => ["venue_id = ?", venue_id]).count
<kingpong1>
ljarvis: instead of scope()
<ljarvis>
kingpong1: ok?
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<kingpong1>
ljarvis: so i can pass the param
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<kingpong1>
but getting name error for venue_id
<ljarvis>
kingpong1: right, but you can't use scope
<kingpong1>
will make new gist
<kingpong1>
its for #rubyonrails
<ljarvis>
I know
<kingpong1>
though
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<ljarvis>
you need to add the vanue_id as an attribute
<ljarvis>
venue
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<ljarvis>
that model makes my face hurt
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<apeiros>
jeward: yes. line 12, as jhass pointed out :)
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<jeward>
Oh, it's a comma!
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<apeiros>
jeward: in general, with a syntax error, check the code before the reported line (./hosts.rb:12 tells you it's line 12), since a syntax error can cause the problem later
<jeward>
Yeah, I already had some of that. The slide used master_config and master_conf.
<jeward>
I think I have that corrected.
<jeward>
Now I have an unterminated string somewhere...
<foucist>
jeward: you're probably missing some initialization stuff like requires for activerecord and such
<jeward>
So it's not complete?
<jeward>
Hmmm.
<foucist>
slides rarely are :P
<jeward>
:-)
<jeward>
It's sooooo close!
<jeward>
So, at this stage I'd need to study puppet/rails?
<jeward>
And see what I'm missing?
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<ljarvis>
or just try and load active record and see if it works
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<jeward>
What would that syntax be?
<jeward>
require?
<foucist>
jeward: does require 'puppet/rails' work?
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<jeward>
I get no error from it.
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<ljarvis>
do you know ruby, jeward?
<jeward>
No, this is my first ruby script.
<ljarvis>
i ask because if you're intended to write it, you should learn it
<jeward>
Well, I thought I'd try it out to decide if I want to learn it.
<jeward>
I'm a sysadmin.
<jeward>
Other approaches to extracting data from puppet are curling the http API and massaging the resulting json.
<jeward>
Just exploring my options.
<foucist>
jeward: also try require 'active_record'
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<jeward>
Case is insignificant?
<foucist>
jeward: but you also need the gems install and such
<foucist>
it's significant
<foucist>
case sensitive
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<jeward>
I tried active_record, ActiveRecord and Active_Record.
<jeward>
All failed.
<foucist>
jeward: probably need to install it :P
<foucist>
did you install puppet etc ?
<jeward>
It's an existing install.
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<jeward>
I'm just trying to figure out how to get data out of it.
<foucist>
jeward: does gem list show puppet, active record etc ?
<foucist>
ah
<jeward>
Only json (1.5.5)
<foucist>
jeward: try bundle exec gem list
<foucist>
er
<jeward>
Sorry?
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<foucist>
jeward: where is this existing install, what directory? you don't want to be in a /gems/ directory
<foucist>
and there's probably a Gemfile in the root directory of this project
<foucist>
which includes puppet and stuff?
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<jeward>
Hold on, phone.
<foucist>
you might need to create a new project, install puppet
<foucist>
etc
<foucist>
gem install puppet
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<cbothner>
Is there a more naturally ruby way of writing this pattern: if bool; a && b || c; else; (a && b || c) && d; end. setting aside the ugly semicolons, of course, that conditionally dependant and operator... or am I simply too far gone?
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<whitequark>
(a && b || c) && (bool || d)
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<whitequark>
but it would do a different thing if bool has side effects
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<cbothner>
whitequark: I think that is exactly what I'm looking for, and as it should be, it is retrospectively super obvious.
<cbothner>
follow-up question --- stylistically, what's best to do about the long lines that complicated boolean equations can turn in to?
<whitequark>
add some intermediate variables
<cbothner>
good to know. thanks
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<eam>
cbothner: stylistically, I also prefer to use "and" and "or" instead of && and ||
<eam>
avoid weird symbols where possible
<apeiros>
if and/or had &&/||'s precedence, I'd probably too
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<eam>
I generally want the lower precedence - and if it's in an expression where it matters I always use ()
<whitequark>
the problem is that and/or have *equal* precedence
<whitequark>
and/or are banished from every codebase where I have a say. :p
<apeiros>
whitequark: that actually matters almost never to me
<apeiros>
if I have and/or mixed, I always use () for explicit precedence
<eam>
and/or have equal precedence in ruby?
<eam>
either way, always ()
<apeiros>
it's more for stuff like: a = b || c
<apeiros>
eam: yes
<apeiros>
but && and || have different
<eam>
well that sucks, I assumed ruby copied the perl operator precedence
<whitequark>
&& and || are really * and + in disguise
<whitequark>
there's nothing surprising about their precedence, given you are aware of basic arithmetic
<eam>
the only thing surprising is that ruby beefed precedence for "and"/"or" by making them the same I guess
<whitequark>
exactly
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<eam>
I'm looking at this precedence table, does ruby not even have xor?
<apeiros>
nope, not a logical at least
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<apeiros>
errr, not a global/syntax logical at least
<eam>
oh well
<apeiros>
TrueClass/FalseClass have ^, also Integer
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<apeiros>
String sadly misses it :)
* apeiros
implemented it using unpack N + unpack C
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<eam>
so this goes on the list of things I do differently because ruby is different :)
<apeiros>
:)
* apeiros
's toy language doesn't have syntactic &&/||, only and/or
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<apeiros>
also precedence table is rather flat
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<ethanwelborn>
hi
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<ethanwelborn>
is it cool to ask rails questions in here?
<Sigma00>
there's a rails channel
<Sigma00>
rubyonrails
<apeiros>
#rubyonrails is better suited
<ethanwelborn>
ah
<ethanwelborn>
i was looking for #rails
<ethanwelborn>
thanks
<apeiros>
#rails redirects there
<apeiros>
as does #ror
<apeiros>
if you can't join - register your nick and authenticate. see /msg nickserv help register
<ethanwelborn>
i was just looking at the channel list is all so filtering by rails brought up nothing
<ethanwelborn>
well #rails
<apeiros>
sounds like you have a broken client then :-
<apeiros>
:-p
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<apeiros>
both #rails and #rubyonrails should have showed up
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<prc>
Anyone can tell me what's wrong with this piece of code: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xQQrsLYn ? It works when an_elem is 0 or when an an_elem > 4, otherwise I get this: test.rb:2:in `block in count_greater_than': undefined method `+' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)
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<Sigma00>
prc: that code sometimes doesn't return anything for count
<Sigma00>
which makes it nil
<Sigma00>
prc: use count, not inject
<Sigma00>
or always return count
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<prc>
I want to understand what's going on rather than fix the issue Sigma00. The nil issue appears when it should return something other than 0 (if you except the an_elem == 0 case, in which case it works fine). So, if an_elem > 0 && an_elem < an_array_length I get the above NoMethodError.
<Sigma00>
I explained it
<Sigma00>
whatever your code returns gets set to count
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<Theta88>
I'm working on a script to scrap youtube search result links, im using the nokogiri gem but im a bit stuck on how to go about storing each href value for use. Any Ideas?
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<Sigma00>
a hash of title => href
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<Sigma00>
an array of hashes*
<Sigma00>
oh oh oh use an array of a hash of an array of an openstruct of a hash
<Sigma00>
Theta88: use an array of hashes or an array of an array
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<Theta88>
Thanks Sigma, I figured an array of hashes, is there a way i can list each [n] of the hash? My end goal is to be able to select [n] then send a command to vlc to open the link
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<Theta88>
Sigma where i was stuck is I don't know how to go about adding videos.each {|link| "#{link['href']}"} into the array
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<Theta88>
Sigma00 ^^
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<Theta88>
or is videos already an array?
<Sigma00>
videos seems to be an array of hashes, yes
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<Theta88>
Sigma00: Thanks again! I got it working. I created link_arr = [] then videos.each{|link| link_arr.push("#{link['href']}")}
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