clifford changed the topic of #yosys to: Yosys Open SYnthesis Suite: http://www.clifford.at/yosys/ -- Channel Logs: https://irclog.whitequark.org/yosys
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<phire> daveshah, I implemented a rename from wire pass: https://github.com/YosysHQ/yosys/pull/780
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<tnt> Is 100% compatibility with official lattice primites something that's required ? Would a 'INIT_FILE' param on the ice40 EBR primitives be accepted for merge ? (rather than all the INIT_xx params) ?
<daveshah> I'd be fine with that
<daveshah> We aren't 100% compatible atm because we don't have the RAM meta-primitives
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<kc5tja> ZipCPU: yt? I seem to remember you had a webpage on the topic of Yosys and initializers for the iCE40-family of FPGAs. Am I misremembering?
<ZipCPU> kc5tja: Not sure I'm remembering what you are referencing. What are you looking for?
<kc5tja> I seem to recall an issue between iCE40 family of FPGAs and Yosys where initial statement values were required to be 0.
<ZipCPU> That's been fixed
<kc5tja> It had something to do with the way the flipflop architecture was implemented on the die.
<ZipCPU> The issue was that all registers on the H/W must be initialized to zero. Yosys now quietly inserts inverters and adjusts the logic to make things work
<kc5tja> Ooh, got it. Thanks.
<ZipCPU> Not sure I ever discussed it on the ZipCPU blog tho
<kc5tja> Not sure where I remembered seeing it. I was just wondering because I'm contributing some documentation for nmigen and wanted to cover that special case. But if it's not special anymore, I can remove that footnote.
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<ZipCPU> Nope, not a special case--remove the footnote
<ZipCPU> The big issue I discussed on the blog was the lack of distributed RAM in the iCE40's
<ZipCPU> You can't read from the RAM therefore without using a clock.
<ZipCPU> always @(posedge i_clk) if (condition) value <= mem[addr]; works, but always @(*) value = mem[addr]; will not
<kc5tja> nods
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<cr1901_modern> Sure "always @(*) value = mem[addr];" will work. You'll just lose half your LUTs just to implement 32 bytes of RAM :D
<kc5tja> *Something* has to keep those LUTs busy. My house won't stay warm on its own. :)
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<tnt> you can use the falling edge to kind of fake it ... but you'd better not expect to run very fast :p
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