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<rqou> azonenberg_hk: why do you use prgmr.com as a vps provider?
<azonenberg_hk> rqou: I've had it for years
<azonenberg_hk> i have a bunch of chicagovps boxen for light web hosting etc
<azonenberg_hk> those are openvz
<azonenberg_hk> but i needed a full VM for a few things like NTP and VPNs with tap/tun interfaces
<azonenberg_hk> b/c openvz wont let you load kernel modules etc
<rqou> i thought you would use "more mainstream" providers like aws/linode/heroku/etc.
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<whitequark> heroku?
<rqou> a PaaS thing
<rqou> i don't use it
<rqou> you can stick your shitty web apps on it :P
<lain> Pain as a Service?
<rqou> sure, let's go with that :P
<whitequark> rqou: I meant
<whitequark> I know what heroku is, I've used when it just came out
<whitequark> I don't believe it lets you ssh into the VMs much less add kernel modules
<rqou> i thought you could ssh in?
<rqou> idk about kernel modules
<rqou> never used it at all
<whitequark> well it's designed to provide the illusion that your app runs on unicorn farts
<whitequark> not crappy linux boxs
<cr1901_modern> there's a difference?
<whitequark> as in, you give it an archive of your rails app and it sets everything else up, including autoscaling
<whitequark> db/redis/etc run on different boxes entirely
<rqou> eh, all i know about rails is * brogrammers * @eevee's rant about discourse
<whitequark> you can ask it to run bash for you on a box but not on a box with one of your app instances specifically
<whitequark> rqou: discourse is actually not that bad
<whitequark> most rails apps are orders of magnitude worse and approach php apps in terms of quality
* whitequark is an ex rails programmer
<rqou> discourse is laggy as shit
<whitequark> discourse did some truly idiotic choices on the frontend
<whitequark> rails doesn't *have* to be slow, if you do it properly you can have response times of the app itself to stay within 30-50ms
<whitequark> including database and interpreting ruby and all that
<rqou> oh yeah, i also know that TDWTF had a field day with discourse
<rqou> XSSing and/or injecting fa-spin classes everywhere
<rqou> f*cking namecheap is broken again
<rqou> why do they have so many problems?
<whitequark> because you should use gandi?
<cyrozap> Aww, yiss... managed to get an Agilent E3646A for ~$90 on ebay--with valid calibration!
<rqou> but namecheap is cheap :P
<rqou> alright, tried name.com for this particular domain and it seemed to work for now
<lain> NICE
<rqou> not active yet though, apparently i have to wait and agree to some extra terms and conditions
<rqou> btw 200.xxx is available if anyone wants that
<rqou> hmm now i need to turn 2fa on on my name.com account
<cyrozap> rqou: You may be able to "buy" those names, but once they actually go through the registration process, you'll get refunded and they'll say, "Uh, actually, ask us for a quote on that domain."
<rqou> hmm really?
<rqou> i've never heard of that
<rqou> there are some domains that are indeed explicitly listed as "premium" though
<cyrozap> It's common for short domains on the new TLDs
<rqou> this isn't a "new" tld anymore :P
<cyrozap> Relatively new
<cyrozap> Hang on, let me try to find the blog post I read...
<rqou> i got a super short domain on a ccTLD no questions asked
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<rqou> that shouldn't apply in this case
<rqou> the .xxx tld is already in general availability phase
<lain> my friend (who owns 254.xxx) had no issues
<lain> it's just /really expensive/
<rqou> $80/yr
<rqou> USD
<lain> yep
<azonenberg_hk> lain: please tell me he has 169.254.xxx
<azonenberg_hk> doing something fun
<lain> haha
<lain> he has several subdomains
<rqou> .hk/.香港 is pretty pricey too - HKD$250/yr
<lain> he gave me 172.16.254.xxx
<rqou> about USD$30/yr
<lain> which is my rdns for irc
<rqou> yeah, 254 is better than 127
<rqou> :(
* rqou also has a tendency to hoard domains
<rqou> lain: according to the ICM registry you don't _have_ to provide adult content on a .xxx domain
<rqou> one of the acceptable categories is "Provide products or services to Providers and Representatives (“Service Providers”) (e.g. adult domainers, manufacturers, delivery companies, caterers, distribution companies, merchant account services, make up artists, stylists, hosting services)"
<rqou> so you can just claim to be a hosting service :P
<rqou> it didn't say that your service had to have any clients :P :P
<whitequark> caterers...
<rqou> well...
<rqou> why not? if there is some adult industry event, the event probably needs a caterer :P
<whitequark> yeah but why do you need specifically adult caterers
<rqou> some "moral police" businesses explicitly blacklist adult-related events?
<rqou> (this seems to mostly be a US thing)
<whitequark> oh right
<rqou> hmm 128.xxx is for sale
<rqou> i wonder how much the guy wants for it?
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<rqou> 255.xxx is also owned by "some random nerd" :P
<rqou> i wonder how many <number>.xxx domains are actually just owned by nerds?
<whitequark> all of them?
<azonenberg_hk> Yeah
<azonenberg_hk> No actual pr0n site is going to use such a name, too hard to remember for a non-nerd
<rqou> hmm i'm going to actually email the 128.xxx owner and ask him how much he wants
<rqou> just out of curiosity
<rqou> (it's a chinese domain squatter)
<cr1901_modern> abuse of the .xxx domain is going to get old quickly lol
<rqou> hmm i wonder if emails from gmail <-> QQ even work?
<rqou> hmm i just realized using gmail is probably going to blow my "pretend to be a from-the-mainland chinese guy" cover
<rqou> he's probably going to raise his price :P
<azonenberg_hk> Lol
<rqou> i'm unlikely to actually buy it
<rqou> i'm just curious
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<rqou> in general though i suck at social engineering
<azonenberg_hk> Lol me too
<mtp> i'm a fan of the .xyz domains
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<whitequark> rqou: google appears to translate the same ideograms into "pre-tempered" and "steel before" depending on context
<whitequark> er... 张钢化前膜
<whitequark> do you have some website you use to look up hanzi
<rqou> i normally look up individual characters/phrases on https://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php
<rqou> i have no idea what "张钢化前膜" is supposed to mean though
<whitequark> that's a tempered smartphone protective glass for the display
<whitequark> oh, "flat object classifier" "steel" "accessory" "front" "film"
<whitequark> ...
<whitequark> that... makes sense in a way but I would have never guessed what it is without knowing beforehand
<rqou> um, 化 doesn't normally mean accessory?
<rqou> also, yes
<rqou> i couldn't have guessed that either
<whitequark> rqou: "to change into"
<whitequark> er, "accessory" is the wrong english word
<whitequark> "something that can be applied" i suppose is the intended meaning
<rqou> hmm i think it should be "a-sheet-of turning-into-steel front film"
<whitequark> ohh
<whitequark> turning-into-? not turned-into?
<whitequark> also what's up with that order?
<rqou> 化 can mean "to make into"
<rqou> so you can write [xyz]化 to mean "to make into xyz"
<whitequark> oh
<rqou> like 硬化 "to harden"
<whitequark> ohhh
<whitequark> that makes sense
<rqou> interestingly, i usually see 化 when it is short for "化學" "chemistry"
<rqou> so i actually wasn't sure what 化 meant by itself
<rqou> actually, for more fun...
<rqou> when I speak/use mandarin I usually see 化 as short for 化學
<rqou> but I have used 化 to mean "to change into" when i speak/use cantonese
<rqou> but it took a while to connect the two because the pronunciations are very different
<rqou> it's weird how the brain categorizes information
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<rqou> azonenberg_hk, digshadow: http://i.imgur.com/ap81GEE.png
<rqou> do either of you have any ES silicon for the microscope?
<digshadow> haha
<digshadow> in any case
<digshadow> I imagine they are same silicon?
<digshadow> just marked differently
<rqou> supposedly it might be slightly different?
<rqou> more bugs/older rev?
<balrog> rqou: possibly, yes
<nats`> the ES allows you to know what feature you'll remove from the datasheet :D
<balrog> :P
<digshadow> ha
<digshadow> nats`: whats more important though is seeing your competitors datasheet
<digshadow> so you'll know what to claim
<nats`> yep :)
<nats`> I saw that in IOT business recently
<nats`> that's the run for bullshit
<rqou> wow chumby originally came out in 2006?
<rqou> i'm getting old :P
<mtp> oh man i have a chumby
<mtp> haven't really done anything with it
<rqou> i remember reading about it on bunnie's blog
<rqou> i didn't realize it's been 10 years now
<lain> yikes
<nats`> I was 20 at that time :)
<rqou> i was in junior high (US system) at the time :P
<rqou> so around ~13 :P
<pie_> whats a chumby
<rqou> self-proclaimed as "one of the world’s first open hardware startups"
<rqou> done by Andrew "bunnie" Huang who is also known for breaking the original xbox
<pie_> ah
<mIKEjONES> digshadow: what was the change to next week's hangout?
<digshadow> mIKEjONES: talks were announced
<digshadow> sorry should have added an explicit note
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