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<ZirconiumX> I need a Verilog language lawyer; in yosys bug 1760, the user is `assign`ing to an `input` port, which then gets read by a higher-level module. I'm pretty sure it's a typo, but can this just be treated as undefined behaviour?
<ZirconiumX> Maybe one for tnt?
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<awygle> do we have a usb expert in the house? perhaps ulpi specifically?
<awygle> my usb3300 isn't clocking out... and idk why
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<futarisIRCcloud> awygle: rohitksingh ?
<rohitksingh> futarisIRCcloud: hi!
<futarisIRCcloud> awygle was asking about why his usb3300 isn't clocking out
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<q3k> awygle: ktemkin?
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<Zorix> that looks nice, have not used any open fpga toolchains though
<m_w> what?!?
<Zorix> relatively new to fpgas, only experience with xilinx, I don't like their bloated ise
<m_w> then this might be a good board to introduce you to project trellis
<Zorix> but I am learning vhdl, seems most open tools are used with verilog
<Zorix> oh?
<m_w> yeah
<Zorix> have a lot to learn
<daveshah> There is ghdlsynth for vhdl now, it's a bit experimental but improving quickly
<Zorix> thanks
<zyp> nice, finally another ecp5 board available
<TD-Linux> never heard of groupgets but sure
<m_w> they just started a collab with hackster too
<zyp> I like the «* Standard 0.05" JTAG connector», just wondering which standard
<m_w> :)
<TD-Linux> presumably the cortex one
<m_w> page 2
<m_w> looks like the cortex one
<zyp> good
<Zorix> kicad is pretty good, I had zero problems with producing a pcb with it
<m_w> the board has a USB bootloader if you don't have a JTAG programmer handy
<m_w> I use an FTDI adapter with the one that Greg gave me
<Zorix> yea I use the mpsse cable from ftdi and openocd
<awygle> can't decide if i need one of these or not...
<TD-Linux> I don't need one. but also I'm typing my credit card number in as we speak
<awygle> what's the usb topology? looks like there's an IC there, but that might just be the switcher...
<awygle> m_w: noticed you're the one who opened this, are you running it for Greg? or is this independent?
<awygle> ah i see now the usb is direct conncet
<m_w> awygle, yes I created the campaign in collaboration with greg
<m_w> we are running it together
<m_w> I am handling the manufacturing logistics with groupgets
<awygle> i see
<awygle> do you have a particular reason for going with groupgets rather than one of the other options (e.g. crowdsupply)?
<zyp> hmm, I'm interested in one, but I don't think I want to pay almost $50 in shipping
<zyp> (cheapest shipping option to Norway is apparently $48.36)
<m_w> I have worked with groupgets and crowdsupply
<m_w> we did groupgets because it is a lot less fanfaire to setup
<awygle> i see
<m_w> for beaglewire it took almost a year to launch on crowdsupply
<m_w> for lofive it was a few weeks to launch on groupgets
<miek> ouch, $53 shipping here :(
<m_w> miek, where are you located?
<miek> UK
<awygle> did you find both about equal in terms of ease to work with, value brought, etc? is there anything that would make you choose crowdsupply over groupgets for a future project?
<m_w> miek, I will check to see if groupgets has a distribution channel over there
<m_w> miek, in the past people have banded together to get more boards on a single order to offset the shipping cost
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<m_w> awygle, crowdsupply is good if you need time to pull together the distribution channels and like a really refined campaign page
<m_w> groupgets is better if you already have a product but just want to get the price down
<awygle> i see, thanks for the insight
<m_w> groupgets is a little more hardware savvy as well and they can handle all of the logistics
<m_w> crowdsupply is getting better about this now too
<awygle> that's interesting considering crowdsupply's branding
<awygle> they pitch themselves as having relevant expertise
<m_w> yeah I think they are really spread thin and it shows
<TD-Linux> the number of projects they have lately has exploded
<awygle> that makes a certain amount of sense. wonder what their finances look like lol
<m_w> they are owned by mouser now so it must have been okay
<awygle> "company gets bought", "new owners push company to maximize revenue", "company becomes shitty" is a tale as old as time tho
<awygle> hope that's not what's happening, guess we'll see
<m_w> I hope the best for them
<m_w> I am working on a new test fixture for beaglewire actually
<m_w> they want to do a run soon
<awygle> would either crowdsupply or groupgets be helpful in covering for my profound ignorance of injection molding? lol
<m_w> groupgets has mechanicals they can lean on
<m_w> I work with them directly now and know the team pretty well
<m_w> they share an office space here in reno with an iot company called breadware
<awygle> that's cool. i basically thought of them as a financial intermediary. didn't realize they provided so much support as you're implying.
<m_w> so they have me and a team of engineers at their disposal if needed
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<adamgreig> miek: i am also in the uk if there's interest in a combined uk buy
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