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<andlabs>
it's been years since I have used it but 'barbeque' on github claims it still doens't work
<andlabs>
well the FM-X was their only MSX machine and it was released concurrently with the original FM-7
<andlabs>
I do wonder what led to decision to choose one over the other
<andlabs>
*released concurrently with AND advertised together with
<andlabs>
ugla: and priced to boot x.x
<andlabs>
also out of stock :<
<ugla>
Yes. I don't have that kind of money, but it seems cool. I guess it's a small operation.
<cr1901_modern>
. o O (Do I need 300 voices?)
<ugla>
It's also multipart as heck it seems :)
<cr1901_modern>
24-32 voices should be enough for anybody
<ugla>
Thinking of the DX1 with its layered patches, and then playing that polyphonically, and then having many such tracks. It quicky adds up.
<ugla>
I guess you wouldn't have to worry about note stealing
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<ugla>
Four note chord on DX1 would be 8 voices. Then double that to avoid note stealing with long decay. Then have many tracks.
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<andlabs>
so yeah from last night
<andlabs>
[20:29:41] <andlabs>hmm
<andlabs>
[20:29:55] <andlabs>madou monogatari 1 has broken FM sound on the PC-486NOTEAS
<andlabs>
[20:30:02] <andlabs>I wonder why
<andlabs>
[10:20:38] <andlabs>I tried slowing the CPU down and that didn't help
<andlabs>
[10:20:54] <andlabs>plus writing to the SSG channels works fine
<Sarayan>
cr1901: A mu100 listens to two midi ports, with 16 channels each, and some instruments use two samples at the same time
<Sarayan>
32 is weak :-)
<cr1901_modern>
. o O (At what point do you have so many channels that you can't hear any single one, but you can hear the sum of all channels just fine?)
<cr1901_modern>
Like the weak law of large numbers, but for audio
<Sarayan>
There's this little thing your may have heard about called an "orchestra"
<Sarayan>
you should look it up :-P
<cr1901_modern>
I can still hear when e.g. a single flute is playing
<cr1901_modern>
But yes, I appreciate where you're going w/ that. I just wonder mathematically how many different channels you'd have to put into an audio file before mixing all of them to prevent clipping means that no single one of them is audible by the human ear
<Sarayan>
I suspect it really depends on whether there's frequency separation
<Sarayan>
e.g. you can hear the flute solo over the group of violins, but can't really separate the violins
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<ugla>
In a live setting, having lots of voices could be handy, if it would let you run two songs at the same time, and bring tracks in and out as you transition between them
<cr1901_modern>
hmmm
<ugla>
Looking at a Reface DX instead which I could at least conceivably afford used
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<andlabs>
oh god the microvax came in a much larger box than I was expecting
<sorear>
scene: andlabs standing, dumbfounded, in front of a slightly rusted intermodal shipping container
<cr1901_modern>
lmfao
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<andlabs>
hahaha
<andlabs>
no not that big
<andlabs>
just not something I can store right now
<andlabs>
I guess it's finally time for me to get the storage unit
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<Foone>
it's an important step in your evolution as a collector of retro junk. it's like when the caterpillar goes into the chrysalis to turn into a butterfly
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