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<andlabs> neat
<andlabs> the original arcade game uses a YM2203 though
<andlabs> I'm going ot make a big deal out of that fact one day on youtube
<cr1901_modern> OPN vs OPN2... what's the difference between friends :P?
<andlabs> "find me a PC-98 game as important as space harrier =P " (ys pops up) "okay okay fine"
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<ValleyBell> TBH I think that rendition of the Space Harrier theme is okay, but not yet "good". I don't like the instruments they used.
<superctr_> wing_ghost made a much better version
<superctr_> or maybe it was hidecade
<cr1901_modern> It's a matter of taste, but I like both the Master System BIOS FM version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg2IC0T3Xjg) and Carina's version more
<fseidel> wildly unpopular (?) opinion, but I really love the stupid eurobeat version from the bad PS2 port...
<fseidel> that's the one
<cr1901_modern> It's not my favorite, but it's a cute take :P
<cr1901_modern> I like the main part of the theme, don't care what they did with the intro
<fseidel> it hits all the "stupid, cheesy" notes I'm looking for :-P
<cr1901_modern> Uhhh, this is a silly q, but does the Master System BIOS only play music if the FM module is attached?
<cr1901_modern> I can't find any where only the PSG is playing
<fseidel> the Japanese SMS has a built-in FM unit
<cr1901_modern> oh
<fseidel> interestingly, the MK3 is wired in such a way that you don't get PSG when FM is enabled, and vice-versa
<fseidel> so games can't count on being able to use both
<cr1901_modern> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rgokqjWK4 According to this, the PSG and FM are playing
<fseidel> that's why the SMS BIOS is the only place you'll hear both
<fseidel> yes, because the SMS allows it, just not the MK3
<cr1901_modern> oh right, SMS == MK4
<cr1901_modern> VRC7 has better presets IMO, but the presets in the YM2413 are good as well
<fseidel> I'll never understand why they handled the mixing they way they did, seems weird to make FM/PSG mutually exclusive
<cr1901_modern> Didn't want to overwhelm the musicians with the power and responsibility of using both at the same time :P?
<fseidel> better than a joystick systems-branded mouse
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