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<TRS-80>
Evening
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<lanefu>
howdy
<TRS-80>
lanefu: You were one of first to pick up on my Flagging experiments. So I suppose I'm preaching to the chior with you. Also like me, you seem to be around a lot lately. I was trying to attract attention of others to my thread. Having said all that, thanks for the support. :)
<TRS-80>
I know not everyone has the kind of time on their hands like I do right now. I've been in both positions (rat race and not). At the moment, luckily enjoying the latter. So I know I need to jst be patient.
<lanefu>
i've been on an armbian bender lately lol
<TRS-80>
Me too, just forum related.
<lanefu>
I do a lot of armchair QBing
<TRS-80>
Well that is what some of us new guys need. Just trying to formalize this into a simple and official process.
<patrixl>
hi all
<TRS-80>
hi patrixl
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<TRS-80>
gn
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<Tonymac32>
archetech sd card fail rate on which? I am downright abusive to these things and haven't had issue with that guy. unless...
* Tonymac32
testing
* Tonymac32
low current drive will corrupt all
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<Tonymac32>
archetech for mainline RK3328 8 mA drive levels are already set, double checked why the patch I made to increase those was disabled. If any image doesn't have the SD card GPIO current turned up a bit it will have problems
<Tonymac32>
I used my Model 100 portable as a dumb terminal for Linux just for the LOL's
<lanefu>
all 8 lines of it
<lanefu>
my dad was a reporter... they all loved the model 100... he used his all the way through the late 90s
<lanefu>
6 hours of battery life on 4 batteries
<Tonymac32>
haha
<Tonymac32>
AA's for the win
<lanefu>
uploaded articles at 300 baud
<Tonymac32>
pulse dial
<lanefu>
actually he didaled dthe phone manually
<Tonymac32>
nice. I played with the dialer, it has a relay to do the dialing
<Tonymac32>
I'm not sure what all the accessories for that thing looked like
<Tonymac32>
Oh wow, I can just make a dongle to plug into the cassette interface
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<TRS-80>
Would. you. like. to. play. a. game?
<Tonymac32>
:)
<Tonymac32>
I don't have an IMSAI
<Tonymac32>
What I really kind of want to do is build a "modern-ish Color Computer style rig
<Tonymac32>
the price looks ugly though to make a custom keyboard
<TRS-80>
Watching that movie probably put me on a path that led to me being here talking to you in this IRC channel right now. 8/
<lanefu>
alright im gonna war dial myself to sleep adios
<Tonymac32>
same
<TRS-80>
gn lanefu
<Tonymac32>
later on
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<count-doku>
Morning.
<count-doku>
Is it good to name a release 20.02 (indicating 2020-February) when we release it on the 29th?
<count-doku>
I mean like, Image Building won't even be done until March :D
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<Werner__>
I think the naming is a minor issue :P
<Werner__>
IgorPec: You should configure your IRC client in a way that it auths you to nickserv BEFORE you join any channels to provide proper cloak.
<IgorPec>
g morning
<IgorPec>
how?
<Werner__>
Um, I do not know what client you are using first of all :D
<IgorPec>
hexchat ... i just setup automation
<Werner__>
Freenode seem to support SASL auth. This way your login credentions will be sent before anything else is performaned. Though I do not know from scratch how to set this up, never used it before.
<IgorPec>
i don't know. it keep telling me SASL auth failed
<IgorPec>
its probably too early to deal with such complexity :)
<Werner__>
Maybe =). Another method to solve this problem would be to not use the provided fields for joining channels and nickserv. Instead do everything in "perform" which is basically a row of commands that are executed as soon as the client connected sucessfully to the irc server. This could be the nickserv auth first, then sleep 1000 and then /j #....
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<Werner__>
Looking good
<IgorPec>
ok, i removed "autojoin" and doing it with a script
<Werner__>
Maybe a design flaw in Hexchat to perform join first and then do the nickserv thing...
<IgorPec>
yeah, but i guess solved.
<Werner__>
Yep
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: You like CLI?
<IgorPec>
sure, why'
<TRS-80>
I like weechat, it's CLI client
<IgorPec>
my desktop is full of terminal windows :)
<IgorPec>
i see, will check it out
<TRS-80>
I think I used to use hexchat though, at some point... long ago! :)
<IgorPec>
weechat is small enough to be shipped with armbian :)
<TRS-80>
> all software expands.. something something... until it can send email? XD
<Werner__>
Using Weechat as well right now. But it is more due to the fact that I am at work and it is easier to have a terminal open and ssh'd into a machine to run weechat on ^^
<Werner__>
Irssi is a nice cli client as well.
<TRS-80>
I set up SASL a while back because it is required to connect to Freenode from VPN (or Tor, too)
<TRS-80>
it's easy on weechat
<Werner__>
You are using vpn to connect to freenode?
<TRS-80>
Werner__: I don't get on the Internet ever unless I am behind seven Boxxies :D
<TRS-80>
but yes
<TRS-80>
to answer your question, since long time now
<TRS-80>
occasionally, exit node is blocked, and I have to use a different one
<Werner__>
Would be too much efford for my taste. Though I like people who take this privacy stuff a bit more serious :)
<TRS-80>
Cheers :)
<Triffid_Hunter>
I'm on a VPN too, although out of necessity since I'm in China
<Triffid_Hunter>
got a shell script that automatically hops different endpoints and keeps track of which ones work well
<TRS-80>
interdasting
<Werner__>
Luckly this stuff still works for you. Lots of great minds would be mentally imprisoned otherwise...
<Triffid_Hunter>
so if I find an endpoint that's blocked for something, I can just service xlt2pd stop and my script will hop to another one
<Triffid_Hunter>
Werner__: I'd probably just leave if they actually blocked all VPNs
<Werner__>
Comprehensible
<TRS-80>
I read somewhere it's not actually that hard to bypass, if you want to (i.e., what you are doing).
<Triffid_Hunter>
TRS-80: it's funny, they tend to ramp up the great firewall during big political events, then ramp it down afterwards.. bit of a weird flex, but it just tells folks that they're tacitly permitting VPNs
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<zhangn1985>
@lanefu Github URL is wrong, or do you plan to build github.armbian.com?
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<Werner__>
Oops, my fault
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<lanefu>
zhangn1985: well... it would be kinda cool if we did build it :P
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<Werner__>
And I do not even feel overtired...
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<TRS-80>
but from hanging out in channel, I just sort of "know" the approx schedules of people
<IgorPec>
i don't :) but sometime this can be handy. i have to move to weechat fist
<TRS-80>
I just saw this, think I need to add: "Multi-line edit box, also supports editing of multi-line pastes."
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: May be similar stuff on other clients, but this is one reason I chose weechat (I mean, look at that list!)
<HerculeP>
IgorPec: maybe you are looking for /ctcp HerculeP TIME
<HerculeP>
19h36 CET currently
<IgorPec>
HerculeP: yes, it works
<IgorPec>
thanks.
<HerculeP>
np
<HerculeP>
ctcp can be switched off personally/by channel tho
<Werner__>
Should we block those?
<IgorPec>
nah, I want to have it :)
<Werner__>
Okey
<TRS-80>
Werner__: Apparently, that would also block /me command, if Wikipedia is correct: "It is also used to implement the /me command (via CTCP ACTION)"
<Werner__>
Not for Freenode as their website states
<TRS-80>
aah ok
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<IgorPec>
me command works (at least i see it)
<TRS-80>
Yes
<TRS-80>
OK, so you do also see when someone pings your client for the time, neat
<Werner__>
The /me thing should still work
<TRS-80>
(in weechat it shows up in main freenode buffer with other general infos)
* TRS-80
is testing /me
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<IgorPec>
lanefu: is there any PR / commit that shall we left out from this release?
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<TRS-80>
testing fifo
<TRS-80>
^ neat! :)
* TRS-80
did `echo '*testing fifo' >~/.config/weechat/weechat_fifo`
<TRS-80>
apparently can also do shell commands, put output to a buffer, etc...
<TRS-80>
(exec plugin)
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<IgorPec>
TRS-80: i was looking weechat ... pity they don't package for armhf/arm64 ... they only maintain buster / stretch for raspbian
<TRS-80>
disgust.jpg
<TRS-80>
I rescind my recommendation.
<TRS-80>
:D
<IgorPec>
no, ask them. perhaps this is one-line job?:)
<TRS-80>
Oh OK sure
<TRS-80>
You are thinking to include in Softy or?
<IgorPec>
indeed i was, but then i found out that I will need to compile
<TRS-80>
Or just want to see it in repositiries?
<IgorPec>
which is a bit too complicated way to get going
<IgorPec>
armhf variant works on Armbian buster
<IgorPec>
but then on bionic, troubles with relations ... while they already sorted that out ... if they have variants for all possible distros
<TRS-80>
I think weechat users probably don't use Softy anyway. I never even looked at it to be honest until I started to Mod and becoming more involved in project. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<TRS-80>
What do you think? Or maybe you like to include anyway.
<IgorPec>
its just a idea, but if its comoplicated its not worth the troubler
<TRS-80>
Perhaps I misunderstand your question. Is this a matter of marketing / awareness? I am looking at https://weechat.org/download/debian/ and I see Raspbian listed there, is it that you would like to see Armbian, too?
<IgorPec>
no no, just that they produce armhf and arm64 packages for all variants: Buster, Bionic, Eoon, ... like they have it for x86
<IgorPec>
its like a suggestion to them
<TRS-80>
Oh I see now, if you follow the links down the page they only package for certain arch
<TRS-80>
(i386,amd64)
<IgorPec>
yep, that's it. many people do exactly this and no more
<TRS-80>
and "Raspbian" (armhf)
<IgorPec>
perhaps package for raspbian a
<IgorPec>
yes
<TRS-80>
Would that package work?
<IgorPec>
package for raspbian works fine on armhf armbian
<IgorPec>
but only on Debian Buster 32bit
<IgorPec>
for 64bit its already a bit tricky
<IgorPec>
to cover just buster, I will not waste time
<TRS-80>
OK
* HerculeP
just apt installed weechat on a odroid hc2 using armbian (armv7l) -works ok so far
<IgorPec>
this is alredy deprecated while we speak
<lanefu>
lol
<IgorPec>
if people submit patches ... I don't mind, even this is good for a week only
<lanefu>
although i guess if we add patches it technically invalidates the testing
<lanefu>
depends on how strict we want to be
<IgorPec>
yes, that's true ... but if we don't set sources to the commit ID, we don't need to
<IgorPec>
when next build will go out, upstream will slightly changed
<lanefu>
gotcha
<IgorPec>
i propose to mark down thoise ideas and work on them for the next cycle
<lanefu>
agreed
<IgorPec>
also we bumped out 20.02.rcX while master is still 19.11.something
<IgorPec>
this shoul IMO also be named differently ... what to do with the master?
<IgorPec>
at this stage while we are still working on
<lanefu>
hmmm
<lanefu>
so master is a rolling release
<lanefu>
and we don't commit a "stable" release back to master
<lanefu>
so...
<lanefu>
20.05.0-alpha? lol
<lanefu>
im not sure
<IgorPec>
hehe
<lanefu>
or we really could just keep incrementing it with the months (all) ex: 20.03.. but just always call it -unstable in master
<IgorPec>
or trunk
<lanefu>
yeah!
<IgorPec>
20.05-trunk
<lanefu>
okay that sounds sane
<lanefu>
master is the NEXT release-trunk
<IgorPec>
yeah, that should do
<lanefu>
okay i'll make note of that is the release doc
<IgorPec>
ok
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<lanefu>
IgorPec: easy dude, dont chew out a user that did diligent testing
<IgorPec>
but what to do?
<lanefu>
thank him for reporting, and we might not be able to fix it because upstream and we can at least make note of it on the release as a known issue
<lanefu>
we do list like a bunch of USB adapters on the download page... so it does make it look like we might support that
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<IgorPec>
well, that is always kernel dependent. he have 4.19.y
<lanefu>
yeah thats a good workaround
<IgorPec>
ok
<lanefu>
thanks for revising your response.. its more encouraging for everyone
<lanefu>
now we still need to figure out if there are some bugs we need to fix for the release :)
<IgorPec>
yeah, i have to get some distance from this "support"
<IgorPec>
there are bugs for sure :)
<TRS-80>
I guess I read the "revised" response, imagine my confusion reading lanefu comments XD
<IgorPec>
and we can't fix them all
<IgorPec>
haha
<lanefu>
TRS-80: yeah you probaly though I expected IgorPec to give the guy some Ice cream or something
<lanefu>
*thought
<TRS-80>
got a good chuckle from that
<TRS-80>
:D
<lanefu>
IgorPec: on that note... should we make current and previous releases easy to find on the download page, or just let them use the archive link
<IgorPec>
beeing nice gets you likes :)
<lanefu>
haha
<IgorPec>
i thought about that ... download pages will need some adjustements
<lanefu>
anyway overall I think this release is going pretty well.. announcing the RC on twitter made a little hype, we've got some decent response for testing help.. and now I think we'll have a somewhat predictable process for next time
<TRS-80>
IgorPec: Toward the end of my last job, I was raging much worse. That's when I realized I needed a break. So I took one and here I am.
<TRS-80>
I don't think we are at a point though were you can take a break, unfortunately. :/
<lanefu>
We just need to put something relaxing in his drink
<IgorPec>
TRS-80: i took a fulltime contract to have a break :)
<lanefu>
rofl
<lanefu>
yeah talk about a "paid vacation"
<TRS-80>
But I read between the lines of your posts and that's one reason I decide to step up. I have been in stress position, I know what it looks like. I decided to support more before you quit this crazy endeavor!
<TRS-80>
Then we would never Have Nice Things (tm)
<lanefu>
yeah TRS-80 you've been a big help... and this latest recruitment of mods as helped
<IgorPec>
absolutely!
<lanefu>
hopefully it will let IgorPec feel more comfortable not feeling obligated to respond as much... fewer distractions
<TRS-80>
Well, there is a lot I don't know still, so don't completely disappear! :) But I try to take on more and more as I am able.
<IgorPec>
yeah, distractions are getting to me too easy lately. i guess just too much of everything
<lanefu>
IgorPec: totally understandable
<IgorPec>
lanefu: how is the jenkins project going?
<lanefu>
pretty well in the sheme of things.. i lost some code that I had for responding to board family changes
<lanefu>
so i gotta debug that
<lanefu>
and theni'll reactivate it
<lanefu>
if things go well, we an look at adding more paramterized jobs to it. for performing other buildss
<IgorPec>
aha, so you figure out how to rebuild only related kernel
<lanefu>
IgorPec: yeah.. it's fairly accurate... if it matches on like rk3399, then it builds whatever rk3399 board it finds in its list first
<lanefu>
basicaly it looks for a kernel family or a board as a changed file, and builds accordingly
<lanefu>
its super basic
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