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<midnightmagic> kanzure: sharechain window size; lack of sharechain-linked tx implies, IMO, that the sharechain is a much more natural fit for e.g. braided chains or a treechain structure to reduce the perception of an orphan rate; p2pool has address privacy enhancements over.. as far as I can tell all the other pools..; chronobit works with p2pool; p2pool does transparent merged-mining but not sharechain-e
<midnightmagic> nhanced merged-mining; and due to its built-in relay netwrk has lower orphan rates than any other pool did, in the past.
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<kanzure> midnightmagic: added to issue, thanks
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<bramc> There's this unfortunate pattern that highly technical and uncontroversial ideas don't generate much discussion, while nontechnical and controversial ones do, as a result of which there's nearly an inverse correlation between how good an idea is and how much discussion there is of it.
<moa> call it the "Kadashian effect"
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<bramc> Ha!
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<bramc> Although there isn't much controversial about Kim Kardashian. The only thing controversial about her is whether she deserves her fame, which she has mostly because of the controversy about whether she deserves her fame.
<bramc> It's not like, say, block size increase discussion, where all of the ideas are at least somewhat controversial.
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<moa> the thing about drama queens is that everything is controversial
<midnightmagic> this is not the spot for that please.
<eragmus1> oh, okay, sorry.
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<bramc> It's funny how the actual segregating witness parts of segwit are mentioned as tertiary benefits. They are of course tremendously important in their own right, for actually adding functionality instead of just trying to keep the system from imploding.
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<adam3us> bramc: indeed.
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<morcos> bramc: yes that was the argument i tried to make. look at this awesome segwit thing that we so obvioulsy are going to include. oh btw, why are we still talking about blocksize when it turns out we have twice as much capacity as we thought without doing anything.
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<aj> morcos: because anything less than 8x or 20x is as good as nothing?
<aj> morcos: at least, i think that's the mindset
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<bramc> if depth > 220:
<bramc> raise IntegrityError("Impossibly deep proof")
<bramc> This is very funny out of context: raise IntegrityError("Impossibly deep proof")
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<kanzure> bramc: raise IntegrityError("Impossibly deep proof with depth={}".format(depth)) <--- more information is better.
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<kanzure> "Can financial engineering cure cancer?" http://lfe.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CanFECureCancer2013.pdf
<kanzure> "Commercializing biomedical research through securitization techniques" http://lfe.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/nbt2012.pdf
<kanzure> sorta off-topic, but interesting.
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