<M-Sonata1>
I get a weird error when try to mount: /ipfs/QmVF8B2MUtbscwH2ieTV4NDnkd9hTfyecataCRftvtmrZ8
<apiarian>
hmm, object patch add-link Qm1 a Qm2; object patch add-link QmJUSTUPDATED b Qm2; only leaves one of the links. that is to say patch add-link seems to be de-duplicating names that have the same hash but different names. is this a fundamental IPFS thing, or a object patch add-link thing?
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: kinda both
<whyrusleeping>
we don't support duplicate named links
<M-Sonata1>
That seems like a strange design decision. Why?
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<whyrusleeping>
not really
<whyrusleeping>
what does QmBlah/ABC refer to?
<whyrusleeping>
if you have multiple links named ABC
<M-Sonata1>
That's an argument against multiple destinations with the same name, not against multiple names with the same destination.
<whyrusleeping>
ah!
<whyrusleeping>
i misread your comment
<whyrusleeping>
that doesnt seem right
<whyrusleeping>
you can definitely have multiple differently named links pointing to the same content
<whyrusleeping>
if that doesnt seem like its happening, could you file a bug with those repro steps you mentioned earlier?
<apiarian>
whyrusleeping: i'll take a closer look. i'm using go-ipfs-api, will investigate in detail tomorrow
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: thanks!
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/dskey-encoding from f297a72 to ac7e6d9: https://git.io/voSaV
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding ac7e6d9 Jeromy: update datastore to not hex-encode keys passed to flatfs...
<whyrusleeping>
i'm thinking of merging the breaking datastore changes
<whyrusleeping>
(or not merging)
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<whyrusleeping>
tagging it, and adding it to a custom build of the distributions page for ipfs-update
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<kevina>
I would not merge a change with a major impact into master, isn't there a way we could do this on a staging branch?
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<kevina>
whyrusleeping: or if we must use master, we should at least warn everyone that master could be unstable for the next couple of days.
<whyrusleeping>
right
<kevina>
so is doing this on a branch possible?
<whyrusleeping>
we can do it on a staging branch, but i'm *very* against staging branches
<kevina>
I'm curious, why?
<whyrusleeping>
you end up not properly testing merged features
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<whyrusleeping>
things get stale quickly
<whyrusleeping>
its best to just force people adventurous to be using master (not guaranteed to be completely stable anyways) to go through the migration
<whyrusleeping>
and update
<kevina>
I was thinking the staging branch can be used for just a few days until we work though the migration and make sure it works...
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<whyrusleeping>
ah, yeah
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<whyrusleeping>
if just for a few days thats okay
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<kevina>
okay, just an idea :)
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<whyrusleeping>
kevina: yeah, thats probably what we're gonna do
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/dskey-encoding from ac7e6d9 to 5483a75: https://git.io/voSaV
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding 9aa54a8 Jeromy: encode keys to datastore with base32 standard encoding...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding 1cb2460 Jeromy: use raw base32 encoding...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding 3adf12f Jeromy: update datastore to not hex-encode keys passed to flatfs...
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vo5gH
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/master ddc8d0c Thomas Gardner: commands: remove EnableStdin support for StringArg...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/master 059b726 Thomas Gardner: commands: update go-log dependency...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/master 2ad63fd Thomas Gardner: commands: improve test coverage for FileArg parsing...
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<daviddias>
whyrusleeping: maybe we should rename the branch 'master' to 'bleeeeeeeding eeeedge' :D
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<Kubuxu>
Or like cjdns: 'crashey'.
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[js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-ipfs-unixfs-engine-0.10.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vo5SI
<ipfsbot>
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[go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/ifps-capitalize from 5903f0e to 8ad5d35: https://git.io/vo571
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/ifps-capitalize 8ad5d35 Richard Littauer: docs: decapitalize IPFS where possible...
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[go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/ifps-capitalize from 8ad5d35 to 90a3921: https://git.io/vo571
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go-ipfs/feature/ifps-capitalize 90a3921 Richard Littauer: docs: decapitalize IPFS where possible...
<daviddias>
ifps - interfile planetsystem
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<zero-one>
interplanetary first-person shooter
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[go-ipfs] RichardLitt created feature/2293-error-codes (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vo5dx
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go-ipfs/feature/2293-error-codes 7b9e482 Richard Littauer: Added note aobout error codes...
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[go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/2293-error-codes from 7b9e482 to f13dabe: https://git.io/vo5dj
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go-ipfs/feature/2293-error-codes f13dabe Richard Littauer: Added note about error codes...
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[go-ipfs] RichardLitt force-pushed feature/ifps-capitalize from 90a3921 to a37beb5: https://git.io/vo571
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go-ipfs/feature/ifps-capitalize a37beb5 Richard Littauer: docs: decapitalize IPFS where possible...
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<apiarian>
whyrusleeping: https://gist.github.com/apiarian/69eb78a0be5fa93d68a99f7e98a4b0b0 looks like the problem was actually in the webui DAG explorer. if you run that script and then look at the final head object in the web-ui it only shows the first link, not the second link
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<apiarian>
zero-one: the laaaaaa aa g
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<apiarian>
whyrusleeping: incidentally if i put /ipfs/QmfYhWKZBouVU7GDzVxEG6gLetESNStsdD63KT8jUe23eV/second-link in the DAG path, it does find the tail correctly. so it is probably some sort of graphical deduplication optimization? or the links pass through some sort of dict/hash/kvs?
* apiarian
is an API engineer by trade
* apiarian
thinks UI work is mostly black magic
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<Kubuxu>
apiarian: I think whyrusleeping is asleep right now.
<apiarian>
oh the irony! is no worries, i was raising a fuss yesterday when it seemed that go-ipfs was misbehaving, but it seems that it is the webui after all
<brianhoffman>
will the js version be os agnostic or going to do native implementations?
<Kubuxu>
JS version can run in two variants: NodeJS (with better communication capabilities) and Browser which is quite limited.
<Kubuxu>
The Go implementation builds and runs on Android without any problems.
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #2913: sharness: Tests for #2868 - --help hanging on stdin (master...feature/test-stdin-hang) https://git.io/vodWx
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[webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #413: Update d3 to version 4.0.0
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[js-ipfs] diasdavid deleted greenkeeper-libp2p-ipfs-browser-0.12.0 at 1f9d057: https://git.io/vodiX
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<Codebird>
I have adapted a web crawler program in an attempt to index IPFS. I am unimpressed.
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<Codebird>
So very many " context deadline exceeded"
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<achin>
we see this problem with the ipfs/archives project -- people initially host data, but then take their nodes offline (i am guilty of this myself)
<achin>
i guess we're not quite at the point where everyone feels comfortable running ipfs 100% of the time
<achin>
ipfs is also missing some key pinning tools, which would help
<Codebird>
356 images, numbers. What is it? I don't know, as every single one is non-retrievable.
<Codebird>
Well, my crawler is crawling, so my store will fill up and preserve things.
<achin>
as one of my projects for ipfs/archives, i want to be able to quickly figure out if a given link is still accessible, and if so, pin it, and if not, mark it as such
<M-Sonata1>
Given the absence of 001 and presence of "Cover", I'm guessing it's a comic book
<achin>
good thinking
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<Kubuxu>
There is some critical mass needed for the IPFS re-hosting to jump in.
<Kubuxu>
Also there are some problems on the way called: "Something is screwed up, let me kill current repo".
<Kubuxu>
Also we need something like pin widget, but for this we need API Tokens and origin policy ..
<achin>
compounded with "this is cool, let me play around with it with a few days"
<Kubuxu>
yup
<Kubuxu>
I am also guilt of abandoning few things on IPFS, but it was the "Something is sc..."
<achin>
there are probably two missing features for me that are preventing a full-time IPFS node -- modemkilling problem and no bandwidth controls
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<M-Sonata1>
Yeah, usage limits in general. That'd be much more compatible with running on a VPS, I think.
<achin>
or even at home -- i don't want to dedicate my entire bandwidth to ipfs :)
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feat/provide-storage at d489f82: https://git.io/vodje
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<whyrusleeping>
achin: yeah, i feel ya
<whyrusleeping>
rate limiting will be something we will bring up for Q3 goals
<whyrusleeping>
it was on the table for this quarter, but a lot of other stuff got in the way
<achin>
yikes, we're in Q2 already? where has this year gone...
<mythmon>
ipfs urls are very long (necessarily so), but that's not always strictly needed. are there any ipfs-friendly url shorteners?
<mythmon>
achin: Q2 is nearly over
<daviddias>
whyrusleeping: is there any code on track to merge folders on mfs?
<whyrusleeping>
merge?
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to feature/root-is-symlink: https://git.io/voFew
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/root-is-symlink c7ab3fb Jakub Sztandera: sharness: add test for symlink in the middle...
<daviddias>
folder /a and folder /b have several files
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<daviddias>
and I want to move all the files in folder /a to folder /b
<whyrusleeping>
daviddias: hrm.. i have merge code sitting around
<whyrusleeping>
but i never created an endpoint for it
<whyrusleeping>
its in the same place as the diff code
<M-Sonata1>
What should happen if /a/foo and /b/foo point to different files?
<daviddias>
the diff is also not exposed, right?
<daviddias>
M-Sonata1 I would be happy with a flag that I can set for 'replace' otherwise abort
<M-Sonata1>
Sure, that works.
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/root-is-symlink from c7ab3fb to f35c53e: https://git.io/voDc3
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/root-is-symlink f35c53e Jakub Sztandera: sharness: add test for symlink in the middle...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/root-is-symlink dafeb3e Jakub Sztandera: Resolve symlink if it is directly referenced in cli...
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/voFvj
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/master 9cbec47 Jakub Sztandera: sharness: Tests for #2868 - --help hanging on stdin...
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/auto-synopsis from 666a788 to 1c0f18d: https://git.io/vrxhi
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 2065297 Jakub Sztandera: Add Synopsis autogenerator...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis adf4052 Jakub Sztandera: Remove existing synopsis...
<ipfsbot>
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[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/dskey-encoding: https://git.io/voFUh
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding 4961e76 Jeromy: drop prefix length to 6 for 512 way sharding...
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<Krinkle>
o/
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<whyrusleeping>
Krinkle: hello
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/dskey-encoding: https://git.io/voFT3
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding 92fdaad Jeromy: add note about sharding width...
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: that got to be a record
<whyrusleeping>
lol, record wall of ipfsbot text?
<Kubuxu>
no, 'o/ \n <quit>'
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: what do you think about gx-go subcommand that would run given command in rewritten repo?
<whyrusleeping>
oh, lol
<whyrusleeping>
elaborate?
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<Kubuxu>
In not rewritten projects to build we have to do: gx-go rewrite; go test ./...; gx-go rewrite --undo
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<Kubuxu>
We could add command that would do work like: `gx-go run go build ./...`
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<Kubuxu>
lol that broken english
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<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: ah, i see
<whyrusleeping>
I'd be okay with that
<Kubuxu>
Also I am thinking about playing fir reflink for that (so we can test things out if filestore will use reflink) so it does: reflink $orginal .gx-tmp/$original, rewrite $orginal, call command, mv -f .gx-tmp/$original $orginal.
<Kubuxu>
In case that reflink is supported.
<Kubuxu>
s/fir/with
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<whyrusleeping>
that sounds good to me
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voFG4
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping closed pull request #2824: Add flag to ls to not resolve type of subnodes (master...feature/ls-stuck) https://git.io/voqfW
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voFGo
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/master fe7b01f Jakub Sztandera: Resolve symlink if it is directly referenced in cli (#2897)...
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<whyrusleeping>
@K
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: hows the caching stuff coming along?
<Kubuxu>
The bloom and ARC of Has is done AFAIK, after we migrate to new repo.
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<Kubuxu>
The ARC of whole blocks will be even easier than this.
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<Kubuxu>
But I plan wrapping all caches in one constructor and just allow to pass struct for config.
<jl>
And it annoys me that zfs doesn't support reflinks.
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<kpcyrd>
whyrusleeping: is there anything I should know when adding a large number of files to ipfs?
<Kubuxu>
kpcyrd: with current master it should be ok.
<kpcyrd>
any issues and workarounds your archive team ran into?
<Kubuxu>
but you might want to wait few days.
<Kubuxu>
We are changing repo format a bit.
<Kubuxu>
(because of bug that went unnoticed for long time)
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<Kubuxu>
The performance of adding directories is fixed on master, this was blocking quite a lot of work.
<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: I'm running 0.4.2
<Kubuxu>
You should upgrade to 0.4.2-dev (build from master).
<Kubuxu>
0.4.3-dev
<Kubuxu>
or 2... IDK, but the build from source is your best bed
<Kubuxu>
s/bed/bet
<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: also, I wrote my own tool to wraps around `ipfs add -q <file>`, but after doing that for a lot of times, `ipfs add <small file>` becomes really slow
<kpcyrd>
s/to/that
<Kubuxu>
ipfs add -r with patches on master might be a bit faster.
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<Kubuxu>
What you might want to do is make the datastore work in NoSync mode (so it doesn't force sync data to disk)..
<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: I cache the values so I don't have to recalculate files I know won't change
<kpcyrd>
otherwise ipfs add -r wouldn't finish before rsync starts again
<Kubuxu>
I mean for the first add.
<kpcyrd>
ah
<Kubuxu>
Then I would use mfs.
<kpcyrd>
link?
<Kubuxu>
If you have hash of whole directory tree you ca d.
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<Kubuxu>
ipfs files cp /ipfs/Qm...AAA /directory
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<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: I'm not sure that fixes ipfs add being slow for small files after you add some GB of data
<Kubuxu>
no it doesn't.
<Kubuxu>
but it allows you to do delta updates
<Kubuxu>
also the slowdown might be fixed on master
<Kubuxu>
and then update single files with with `ipfs files rm /directory/file; ipfs files cp /ipfs/QmNEWHASHOFTHATFILES /directory/cp`
<Kubuxu>
idea is: use rsync to tell you the delta, and then use that data to reflect changes in mfs/filesAPI
<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: I've put the ipfs-mirror project on hold for a while because I've had the same issue for a really long time
<kpcyrd>
have they found any bugs?
<Kubuxu>
files api (files subcommand) allows you to manipulate directory trees in IPFS world.
<Kubuxu>
There was performance problem, it was fixed.
<Kubuxu>
Please try build from master as the release is quite old, we plan next release in two weeks.
<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: I'd either have to parse rsync output, rsync into fuse or use something like ipfs-mirror to figure out what changed, so no real improvement for me
<Kubuxu>
I would go with parsing rsync output.
<Kubuxu>
It will have the lowest cost.
<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: and it automatically updates ipns?
<Kubuxu>
files API will tell you new hash of given directory in files API using `ipfs files stat` you can use that then to update ipns
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<whyrusleeping>
kpcyrd: odd, daemon running or no?
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<apiarian>
i created and pinned an object this morning, have had my node running all day with ~80-100 peers connected, but still can't see it on https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfYhWKZBouVU7GDzVxEG6gLetESNStsdD63KT8jUe23eV am i doing something wrong? or is my node not as connected as i think? or does the gateway not work the way that i think?
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<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: what is that?
<whyrusleeping>
it looks like your peer ID is QmNT744VjtRFpDYB25EVLx7ha1zAVDKsd3qFjxfQLjPEXq right?
<whyrusleeping>
i see three gateways have at least the first block
<apiarian>
just a little test object, the thing i was using to check the double link issue
<whyrusleeping>
but it seems the rest is taking longer to load
<apiarian>
ya, the gateway is sitting there for a while and then saying internalWebError: unexpected EOF
<apiarian>
and yes, that is my peer
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: it looks like youre behind some fishy nats
<whyrusleeping>
what version of ipfs are you running?
<apiarian>
0.4.2
<whyrusleeping>
hrm...
<apiarian>
i do probably have some funky nats here
<apiarian>
my dad likes to play sysadmin sometimes
<kpcyrd>
whyrusleeping: daemon is running. restarting `ipfs daemon` fixed it
<apiarian>
>.>
<kpcyrd>
after restarting ipfs daemon multiple times
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: lol, i know that feeling
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: yeah, you might be behind a double NAT
<apiarian>
so ok for pulling but not so good for pushing?
<whyrusleeping>
yeap, its nearly impossible for anyone to connect to you from outside
<whyrusleeping>
but you can easily connect to people outwards
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<apiarian>
hmm, it *seems* like i have a single nat between me and the internet. i suppose it is possible that my connection is somehow coming out through one of the tunnels we have offsite, but that seems unlikely. whyrusleeping what makes you say that i'm behind fishy nats?
<apiarian>
(my router's external ip matches whatismyipaddress.com, and the traceroute from my router to my computer shows a single hop (though it *is* going through a switch and a fancy wifi ip)
<apiarian>
(ooh, search engines are also helpfully telling my ip address)
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: i cant make a tcp connection to any of the addresses youre advertising
<apiarian>
oh, also, my local gateway is not impressed with that test object, so that's probably just the gateway not liking arbitrary data, not the gateway failing?
<whyrusleeping>
oooh, that could be too
<apiarian>
QmZBtJ6T6DhZ7UUvPazQhfNE9ZTfUNr7gdWVgNi1uPQJJ1 works locally, though (it is an actual file)
<whyrusleeping>
oooh, were you trying to request a custom object through the gateway?
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<apiarian>
i was, yes
<whyrusleeping>
ah, that wont work. The gateways only serve files
<apiarian>
fair enough
<whyrusleeping>
we should probably have better handling for that though
<whyrusleeping>
instead of hanging
<whyrusleeping>
actually, i think what was happening was the request was failing on the 0.4.x network, but the 0.3.x (old) network was working trying to find your stuff
<whyrusleeping>
so multireq was hanging
<whyrusleeping>
blech
<apiarian>
just two more days?
<whyrusleeping>
hopefully
<whyrusleeping>
which reminds me
<apiarian>
don't let 30 days of eol stretching to 20 months happen to you! =D
<whyrusleeping>
PSA: if anyone is still running an ipfs node below version 0.4.0, PLEASE UPDATE ASAP
<whyrusleeping>
that network will cease to exist very soon!
<apiarian>
how does that happen? do you just disable it on the bootstrap nodes?
<whyrusleeping>
the bootstrap nodes are running two daemons each
<apiarian>
because presumably i could run a .3 network of my own, right?
<whyrusleeping>
apiarian: yes
<whyrusleeping>
you could definitely just run your own 0.3.11 nodes and bootstrap to them