<slothbag>
not sure why IPFS daemon is returning two results, i'm only sending one file
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<slothbag>
seems like go-ipfs-api is not sending Content-Length header and defaulting to Transfer-Encoded: chunked. Which in turn IPFS doesn't handle..
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<whyrusleeping>
slothbag: set `progress=false` on your http query
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: the `gx diff` is here already, incredible :DD
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<kevina>
whyrusleeping: okay done. I am in no rush to get this in :)
<kevina>
That is in go-ipfs, as an upgrade to the go-datastore deps will likely cause me a decent deal of trouble :(
<whyrusleeping>
kevina: ah, thats fair
<whyrusleeping>
i'm fine leaving PRs open longer
<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: :D
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] chriscool force-pushed issue-template from ef2d12b to 5dbe772: https://git.io/vrAGQ
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/issue-template 5dbe772 Christian Couder: Add ISSUE_TEMPLATE.md...
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<user__>
Hi! :-) Are there any docs (or even thoughts) on the governance of the ipfs network?
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<r0kk3rz>
asbjornenge: governance? what kind of governance
<asbjornenge>
r0kk3rz: like who can contribute to the code that changes the characteristics of the network etc. are there any governance in place?
<asbjornenge>
I think these new networks like ipfs, ethereum is quite different than "just code" since you cannot simply fork the networks. So before I put "trust" in some of these networks I like to investigate the governance of the project(s)...
<r0kk3rz>
afaik its developed solely by protocol labs
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<sunya>
hi, I'm trying to get IPFS to work on OSX and I have a couple of naive questions... I hope that is okay?
<sunya>
I've placed IPFS into my local PATH but I don't seem to have permission to even check its version
<asbjornenge>
r0kk3rz: ah, ok... I'm a bit concerned with network "owned" by a single company... maybe something to think about :-) Would be great to see some sort of governance structure and/or a clear effort/roadmap to create something like that :-)
<sunya>
I can't work out why, the permission look right on the files
<Kubuxu>
sunya: did you do: chmod +x ipfs ?
<ansuz>
it's easy to run your own ipfs network
<ansuz>
change your config to bootstrap off of only your own nodes
<Kubuxu>
asbjornenge: ipfs protocol could be forked at any time, possibly with backward and partial forward compatibility, it isn't blockchain where every change needs to reach consensus and so on.
<asbjornenge>
ansuz: Kubuxu: true, but isn't half the point creating a single global network of content?
<asbjornenge>
who controls this network?
<Kubuxu>
nobody
<asbjornenge>
well does not the people creating the ipfs protocol and source code (for the default client(s)) have some sort of power over this network?
<Kubuxu>
There are seed nodes but they can be replaced by any node in the network (there is plan to not use them at all after first launch), there is also local discover and plans for discoveries over networks like cjdns which would mean that you don't even need seednodes
<asbjornenge>
So once deployed there will never be any changes to the network and it's protocols?
<asbjornenge>
It's nice and efficient to trust a bdfl, but it's not a great strategy in the long run... imho...
<r0kk3rz>
asbjornenge: there will be intertia to changing the protocols, like any large project
<Kubuxu>
No there will, also almost every part of IPFS can be easily swapped out and in. We have already 5 supported protocols of transport, each node can choose which one to support.
<Kubuxu>
s/which one/which set/
<asbjornenge>
r0kk3rz: exactly... so who decides what those changes will be?
<asbjornenge>
Kubuxu: ^
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<Kubuxu>
asbjornenge: so what is your proposal?
<ansuz>
multihash means older protocols don't go away
<asbjornenge>
some sort of transparent governance structure...
<Kubuxu>
Because I would love to hear some good solution for that.
<asbjornenge>
many large public software projects have similar foundations...
<r0kk3rz>
asbjornenge: *who decides* is almost irrelevant when it comes to actual adoption, take ipv6 for example
<r0kk3rz>
its MIT licenced, so if protocol labs comes out with a breaking version and nobody wants it, theres nothing forcing adoption
<asbjornenge>
r0kk3rz: there are many examples where it matters alot! take a look at bitcoin... once the network grows large incentives are created that may or may not be great for the majority of users on the network...
<Kubuxu>
There is plan for something like it. IPFS project is currently managed by Protocol Labs LLC, there is plan to create "IPFS Foundation" or something similar which would be dedicated to this. IPFS is still not that huge of a project still.
<asbjornenge>
Kubuxu: excellent to hear!! That is exactly what I was wondering :-)
<Kubuxu>
asbjornenge: bitcoin is something completely different, programmers and money and FOSS don't mix well.
<r0kk3rz>
asbjornenge: how would you solve the problem with bitcoin?
<asbjornenge>
hehe, different but similar in some aspects...
<r0kk3rz>
even if "the bitcoin foundation" said "right we're increasing the block size, the community at large could still go "no get fucked"
<asbjornenge>
But thats is awesome to hear! An IPFS foundation would be super!! Put that information on the website somewhere :-P
<r0kk3rz>
or other various factions might appear, just like you have now
<Kubuxu>
I think it is still a bit far plan but it will happen.
<asbjornenge>
:+1: :-)
<asbjornenge>
I don't have any answers to these questions/concerns, but I wanted to query about the thoughts/plans etc. in the community :-)
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<sunya>
Kubuxu, nope, it looked executable from ls -l. Will try that, thanks
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<Guest_84757>
Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
sun is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
moon is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
stars are not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
planets are not doing Allah is doing
* ansuz
doing too
<Stskeeps>
and all that data is best stored with ipfs
<sunya>
chmod +x ipfs did not work. I wonder if it is because I am using zsh on top of shell?
<Guest_84757>
galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
oceans are not doing Allah is doing
<ansuz>
for x in *; echo $x is not doing Allah is doing;done
<r0kk3rz>
error detected for case x="Allah"
<Guest_84757>
mountains are not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
trees are not doing Allah is doing
<Kubuxu>
sunya: shouldn't matter
<Kubuxu>
sunya: can you do `file ipfs`, and post what it returns
<Guest_84757>
mom is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
dad is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
boss is not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
job is not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
dollar is not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
degree is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
medicine is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
customers are not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
you can not get a job without the permission of allah
<Guest_84757>
you can not get married without the permission of allah
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<Guest_84757>
nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah
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<Guest_84757>
light is not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
fan is not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
businessess are not doing Allah is doing
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<Guest_84757>
america is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
fire can not burn without the permission of allah
<sunya>
Kubuxu: I've switched back to native shell for clarity's sake: from outside of /usr/local/bin, I get file not found: ipfs: cannot open `ipfs' (No such file or directory)
<Stskeeps>
./ipfs ?
<sunya>
from within: ipfs: directory
<Kubuxu>
do `file $(which ipfs)`
<Guest_84757>
knife can not cut without the permission of allah
<Guest_84757>
rulers are not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
governments are not doing Allah is doing
<sunya>
hmm that appears to be an incompatible command - I get cli help for the file command
<Guest_84757>
sleep is not doing allah is doing
<Kubuxu>
ok: do `which ipfs`
<Kubuxu>
what is prints out?
<Guest_84757>
hunger is not doing Allah is doing
<sunya>
nothing :(
<Kubuxu>
where did you install ipfs?
<Guest_84757>
food does not take away the hunger Allah takes away the hunger
<Kubuxu>
daviddias, lgierth: can we get rid of spambot
<sunya>
`/usr/local/bin`
<Kubuxu>
do `echo $PATH`
<sunya>
I thought you had Allah's prophet on your channel
<Guest_84757>
water does not take away the thirst Allah takes away the thirst
<Kubuxu>
Hmm interesting.
<Kubuxu>
can you do: `file /usr/local/bin/ipfs` and post the result
<Guest_84757>
seeing is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
hearing is not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
seasons are not doing Allah is doing
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<sunya>
`/usr/local/bin/ipfs: directory`
<Guest_84757>
weather is not doing Allah is doing
<Kubuxu>
sunya: so it is directory not a executable: `ls /usr/local/bin/ipfs`
<Guest_84757>
humans are not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
animals are not doing Allah is doing
<Guest_84757>
the best amongst you are those who learn and teach quran
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<sunya>
Kubuxu: yes. I see what you are getting at
<sunya>
give me a moment
<Guest_84757>
one letter read from book of Allah amounts to one good deed and Allah multiplies one good deed ten times
<sunya>
Kubuxu: Awesome! Sorted, thanks
<Kubuxu>
no problem
<Guest_84757>
hearts get rusted as does iron with water to remove rust from heart recitation of Quran and rememberance of death
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<Guest_84757>
heart is likened to a mirror
<richardlitt>
good afternoon!
<Guest_84757>
when a person commits one sin a black dot sustains the heart
<Kubuxu>
richardlitt: you don't have kick/ban power, do you?
<richardlitt>
Kubuxu: Nope. On it.
<Guest_84757>
to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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<richardlitt>
daviddias: You around? Can you give me op on IRC?
<richardlitt>
Please read that, and keep your comments here within its bounds.
<richardlitt>
Specifically, "Any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting, or other attention-stealing behaviour is not welcome, and will not be tolerated."
<Guest_84757>
allah makes the day into the night and Allah makes the night into the day
<Guest_84757>
Allah makes the sun rise from the east and Allah sets the sun in the west
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<lgierth>
sorry about that
<richardlitt>
Thanks lgierth
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<dignifiedquire>
Thanks lgierth
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<Akaibu>
the hydrus network dev has been working on some neat ipfs related stuff the last few weeks
<Akaibu>
quite cool
<Akaibu>
much wow
<Akaibu>
many neat
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 2 new commits to feature/version-all: https://git.io/vrxxm
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/version-all 26b1fd4 Jakub Sztandera: Add test for version --all...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/version-all 3c1f3da Jakub Sztandera: Move tests around as for #2774...
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/version-all from 3c1f3da to 8970289: https://git.io/vrxxW
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/version-all 8970289 Jakub Sztandera: Move tests around as for #2774...
<dignifiedquire>
Akaibu: any links?
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to feature/auto-synopsis: https://git.io/vrxpn
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 987b785 Jakub Sztandera: Remove existing synopsis...
<Akaibu>
sorry about not linking, assume everyone knew whati was talking about since i said it alot a month ago when it was adding ipfs features
<dignifiedquire>
no worries richardlitt provided me with links :)
<dignifiedquire>
the integration looks pretty sweet
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<Akaibu>
oh, i see he did
<Akaibu>
my group
<Akaibu>
my group's leader actually got the guy that codes this to switch over to github which actually made him more popular haha
<dignifiedquire>
:D
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<dignifiedquire>
:D
<dignifiedquire>
github - the "we make developers rockstars" machine :)
<Akaibu>
nah, it was more like he was using 4chan before and only was getting like 10 people using it before my group's leader found him/her
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<Akaibu>
dignifiedquire: what got you intrigued in IPFS btw?
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<dignifiedquire>
Akaibu: the fact that IPFS is a distributed p2p system that actually has potential to bring the benefits that it is able to provide to a large amount of people, and not something that is only used by some geeks in their basement
<dignifiedquire>
also that is fully opensource and that the team around it is awesome <3
<dignifiedquire>
and you?
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<Akaibu>
i'm mainly lurking to find ipfs hashes with stuff for my group to archive lol
<dignifiedquire>
:D
<Akaibu>
my group is some what like archiveteam except on a much smaller scale and scope
<dignifiedquire>
do you have a specific focus on what to archive, or just generally what you can get your hands on?
<Akaibu>
(plus a couple of our memebers have been unjustly banned from the archvieteam irc channels, but i don't wnat to get into that)
<r0kk3rz>
dignifiedquire: ipfs really needs a sync server app thing, lots of people seem to want to store other peoples stuff
<Akaibu>
we mainly do "internet folklore" which for the most part is imageboard/textboard stuff
<Akaibu>
since thats where most of us are from
<dignifiedquire>
r0kk3rz: I hear you, we are planning something, just need to be sure to get it right
<dignifiedquire>
Akaibu: that's pretty cool, especially as those are things that have a high value for the participants, but if run on a small scale are easy to loose/be destroyed
<ansuz>
banning people from irc is my hobby
<ansuz>
<3
<lgierth>
C+bO
<ansuz>
hi lgierth
<dignifiedquire>
ansuz: if you want I'm sure lgierth can ban you :)
<Akaibu>
dignifiedquire: its good, the people who join and stick around more than 2 days usally stay and become "full members"
<lgierth>
not today
<lgierth>
they played ansuz and my song on the radio today
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<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created greenkeeper-wreck-8.0.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrpVr
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[js-ipfs-api] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #286: Update wreck to version 8.0.0
<stoogenmeyer>
hey folks, I have a mega tangentially related question. If I make a request to an IP address, how do these IP packets actually find their way? Are they broadcasted and duplicated across the internet until one of them stumbles upon the correct host?
<stoogenmeyer>
and many of the ones that did not find the host just fade into non-existence?
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<lgierth>
no, they get routed. every router along the way does a lookup in its routing table to determine what the next hop should be
<achin>
it's a bit like the postal service. my local post office doesn't directly know how to get my letter to tokyo, but it knows how to get it to a closer post office
<lgierth>
when another "internet blackout" happens, that's usually because some ISP fucked up their routing :)
<Kubuxu>
noffle: and how it goes for you? Are you in Berlin?
<noffle>
ha, interesting
<noffle>
I'm well; back in the bay area until end of june :)
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<Kubuxu>
Will you be coming to Berlin in July?
<noffle>
actually, I may be for the last week of the month
<noffle>
so many distributed systems folks in berlin
<Kubuxu>
I plan to be whole July in Berlin (if I find a place to stay).
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<Kubuxu>
Plus is: I don't have far if I have/want to come home.
<noffle>
perfect; I'll let you know if I end up there
<noffle>
yeah, I wish eu wasn't so far for me
<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: noffle found a bug in object.get
<dignifiedquire>
which relates to ipfs-merkle-dag
<dignifiedquire>
not a 100% sure what fails, but need to fix it as I can't upgrade ipfs-geoip otherwise
<dignifiedquire>
noffle: I know you already have a pr on ipfs-merkle-dag for some fixes, could you take a look please at this PR: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-geoip/pull/9
<dignifiedquire>
if you run `npm test` it will fail because the daglinks/dagnodes are not properly constructed when calling object.get
<noffle>
dignifiedquire: taking a look
<dignifiedquire>
noffle: <3
<noffle>
oh I see you need david not me :P
<noffle>
nm; going to start actually reading things before responding from now on :P
<dignifiedquire>
lol
<dignifiedquire>
noffle: I need YOU to fix things ;)
<noffle>
dignifiedquire: that wasn't the bug for ipfs-geoip -- the real bug was that it used "if (l.name && ...)" to check for DAGLink, which meant if the link had no name it'd think you were passing in JSON
<dignifiedquire>
right
<noffle>
subtle nastiness that comes from not checking inputs well
<dignifiedquire>
but still the stable sort should throw if there is no name property on a link, right?
<noffle>
his fix is good to have too, but doesn't address this specific problem
<noffle>
nope; the name is already the emtpy string
<noffle>
so it's okay
<noffle>
I npm link'd my pr in and it passes :)
<noffle>
(gotta jet for now; be back in an hour-ish)
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/auto-synopsis from 5ae6abf to d57748b: https://git.io/vrxhi
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis d57748b Jakub Sztandera: Remove new line after synopsis section...
<Kubuxu>
Sorry for spamming chat with pushes - I am trying to debug something.
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<whyrusleeping>
Kubuxu: no worries
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/auto-synopsis from d57748b to 8644a2a: https://git.io/vrxhi
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 385f879 Jakub Sztandera: Add Synopsis autogenerator...
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis a9ec6ca Jakub Sztandera: Add Synopsis generator test...
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 354b784 Jakub Sztandera: Remove existing synopsis...
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<dignifiedquire>
noffle: thanks!
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[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created fix/mfs-caching (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vrhO9
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go-ipfs/fix/mfs-caching 3737f35 Jeromy: rework add-mfs to not use caching...
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[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2795: rework add-mfs to not use caching (master...fix/mfs-caching) https://git.io/vrhO5
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[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feature/version-all at c8c329d: https://git.io/vrh3S
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/auto-synopsis from 8644a2a to e5010e2: https://git.io/vrxhi
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 525203f Jakub Sztandera: Add Synopsis autogenerator...
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 6c8229f Jakub Sztandera: Add Synopsis generator test...
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go-ipfs/feature/auto-synopsis 61c4221 Jakub Sztandera: Remove existing synopsis...
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<NeoTeo>
Hey all :)
<NeoTeo>
I've finally gotten around to making an IPFS Safari plugin to catch QM hashes and look them up on a local node.
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[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to fix/mfs-caching: https://git.io/vrhGV