lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.2 released, with great performance and networking fixes! -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- Sprints: https://github.com/ipfs/pm
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<pfraze> dignifiedquire: ok, could I use the unmarshal method in https://www.npmjs.com/package/ipfs-unixfs ?
<xioustic> pfraze: weird bytes sourced from the fact it's a protobuf; here's the protobuf as used in js-ipfs as far as I can tell: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-unixfs/blob/master/protos/unixfs.proto | is that accurate?
<xioustic> in that case, yes, unmarshal should do what you want (remove those ugly bytes or at least parse them into something usable; that protobuf)
<pfraze> xioustic: yeah that's looking to be the case
<xioustic> just guesses; i have historically wondered that
<xioustic> i asked Juan at IA about what is the diff between files/dirs and raw DAG nodes hoping to get at that (IPLD talk), but couldn't really point it to that. too specific for the context. so that's the digging i did.
<pfraze> that got it
<xioustic> cheers
<pfraze> thanks for the help
<xioustic> hey; i was thinking about wrapping go-ipfs binary with a single-file executable, cross-platform file explorer built in PyQt. maybe call it IPFS-Explorer or something; it'd be a desktop client, not javascripty. is work on that already being done to anyone's knowledge?
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<lgierth> pfraze: it's fs:/ipfs :D
<deltab> there's no metadata that marks the object/block/whatever as being protobuf vs. whatever?
<lgierth> we had the mother of all discussions about it on github
<lgierth> tl;dr there's no origin, so the uri has no authority/host
<pfraze> lgierth: hmm! well, i may have to stir the pot on that a little bit
<pfraze> lgierth: thanks, was just going to ask for that
<pfraze> I'll give it a read
<lgierth> the basic idea is that /ipfs and /ipns are just two things in the interplanetary file system namespace
<pfraze> yeah
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<xioustic> anyone work on putting a Bitcoin Blockchain explorer into IPFS? that's the other project I had already started on aside from the IPFS-Explorer idea. wondering if there's any overlap with anyone's work?
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<M-sokoow> Xioustc, do you have it on github?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/vocmf
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 6217e1f Jakub Sztandera: Remove go-datastore from Godeps...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master cafd81c Jakub Sztandera: Import go-datastore to gx...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 7910c6e Jakub Sztandera: Remove snappy from Godeps...
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<A124> whyrusleeping Why don't you merge ipfs-key ? and there are two issues, one solved if you mereg.
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<Kubuxu> xioustic: nobody I know of does Btc explorer on IPFS, it would be awesome.
<A124> Kubuxu What is BTC explorer even?
* A124 knows the blockchain, I meant what it does visualize.
<Kubuxu> Allows you to check balances, transactions, block content and so on.
<A124> Neat. Yeah, if implemented well that would be neat.
<A124> Kubuxu I am not sure what is your position as a role in the management of ipfs code and actions. If you could clarify, that would help. But I think the following does concern you.
<A124> jbenet, not sure who this also concerns, please delegate. We were iterating with a creator of another "internet filesystem" and we came into conclusion that protobuf is handy for transport any everything else, but that there is one missing layer, that is effectively squeezed into nonexistence. Addressability of raw data, without the wrapper. There should be a layer of content adressability [...]
<A124> [...] present. As illustrated by (omitt the key k, in this case) https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmSSrLmuf6jHsbVHunaBnteGFewuykuQS9eu2riosxCwaq IPFS does expose h(r3), h(r4), only h(r0) h(r1) h(r2). This does limit interoperability and creates further management complexity in certain scenarios.
<A124> kevina, as you are working on filestore, which is currently this "interoperability layer", I guess that concerns you also.
<Kubuxu> A124: please take a look on IPLD specs, they are to replace very limited unixfs-protobuf with very flexible Linked Data scheme
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<A124> Kubuxu Found that, reading, I was not around much for the past three days. But still, can you please point me to the part that does relate to raw data addressability? aka content_link = h(data)
<A124> Where data is a chunk of file of chunk_size, unless it is the last chunk. Same stuff just splitting apart the protobuf and the data itself and make those adressable by hash of the data.
<M-davidar> A124: I've proposed some changes that would allow iPLD to use raw data, at least for small files https://github.com/ipfs/specs/pull/111
<M-davidar> (as well as the individual chunks of larger files)
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<Kubuxu> M-davidar: but is the multicodec included at the begging of the binary blob?
<vandemar> is there a way to avoid moving files into the ipfs database and still make them accessible over ipfs? Tell ipfs to just hash some directory and store stub entries for those files?
<Kubuxu> vandemar: currently no, it is in advanced progress right now: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/2634
<Kubuxu> A124: it would be best if you raised your concerns on the ipfs/specs repo. Most of people working on the protocol are not really accessible on the IRC
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<M-davidar> Kubuxu: I had assumed that would be stored out-of-band (at least in the repo, perhaps not on the wire)
<M-davidar> whyrusleeping: ^ ?
<A124> Thanks, will take a look. Yes, that seems like that would do. Of course if the ability to publish file without a name (and of course attributes like mode, etc) would still be possible. If I understand right the content is the raw chunk, and content could also be array of the chunks?
<Kubuxu> Yeah, because whole point of "raw" node is so that its hash is equal to the hash of data
<A124> vandemar Yes, there is, checkout ipfs-filestore, it is in development.
<A124> The files should not be modified or moved, else those would be unretrievable, of course.
<Kubuxu> A124: I've seen it somewhere, can't tell you for sure, but specs repo should contain everything.
<A124> M-davidar, yes, the purpose of that addressability is simple compatibility with any othr storage system that can provide hashes for raw data of chunk size equal to those on ipfs, while making very efficient storage (that could go a lot deeper, which the current state of things makes either complex or unstable, plus having to maintain specific ipfs compatibility).
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<A124> Kubuxu Yes, but for me it is of a challenge to find where is what and what should go where, to be honest. I work mostly on concepts and one man stuff / contributor.
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<A124> Thanks to all for the concern and the replys.
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<vandemar> Kubuxu: A124: cool. thanks, yeah, I realize there would be those constraints
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<kevina> A124: I am not exactly following this conversation. What exactly concerns me?
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<kevina> Kubuxu: If you are still around, for now I just did a merge commit on https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/2634, I will rebase later and clean up my massive collection of commits.
<A124> kevina Well, the filestore is a way to use files on disk. If content is addressed by data not protocol blocks, then it somewhat touches what you do.
<Kubuxu> A124: yes but it wraps the data on the fly into the IPFS's format
<kevina> Kubuxu: However continuous-integration/travis-ci/pr is failing, is looked like a gx dep problem....
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<Kubuxu> I think go-log was updated to different hash
<Kubuxu> you have to change the hash in the import statement
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<kevina> So why is teamcity and ci/circleci okay?
<Kubuxu> No idea
<Kubuxu> or maybe they cache gx directory
<Kubuxu> then the package was there already
<kevina> Okay so how do I fix the go-log import?
<Kubuxu> Take a look at the hash of go-log inside the `package.json`
<Kubuxu> update your hash with that
<kevina> Kubuxu: Thanks. I just fixed it.
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<kevina> A124: It will only cause a problem if you try to add a file to the filestore that ends up not being encoded as a MerkleDag/Unixfs protobuf.
<kevina> A124: It will fail fairly quickly when it tries decode the protocol buffer and fails.
<kevina> A124: In any case this belongs in an issue when and if it comes up.
<kevina> A124: But thanks for letting me know.
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<whyrusleeping> alu: hey! can you link me to the janus in the website stuff?
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* A124 can't wait for WebAssembly. JS is horribly slow.
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<A124> alu All the metacade links give 404
<alu> thanks A124, will look into it
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<alu> is it loading for anyone
<OstlerDev> works for me
<alu> Video too?
<alu> screenshot pls
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<whyrusleeping> alu: i see a red cloth
<whyrusleeping> and some floating white circles
<whyrusleeping> it appears that its still loading things
<alu> I need it to finish loading a crystal ball 360 video
<alu> getting mad >:(
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<alu> My friend is reporting that this one is successfully loading and works: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfFzM4FuJVk1vvHTNt8er8oMkHiLRiZjQ6n2roZXiwveP/
<alu> that doesnt look right -.- so close
<alu> It seems like IPFS gateways are clogged
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<alu> :D
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<M-davidar> lgierth: "21:02:09.938 ERROR commands/h: blockservice is closed client.go:247" :(
<M-davidar> did it OOM again?
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #397: Update i18next-xhr-backend to version 0.6.0
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<Kubuxu> M-davidar: yes, there is one more leak: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/2823
<M-davidar> Kubuxu: there's always one more leak :(
<Kubuxu> Looks like this might be the last one
<Kubuxu> I hope
<M-davidar> why won't you just let me dump a ridiculous number of files into you ipfs?!
<M-davidar> :p
<Kubuxu> Me and Why were paid by gov not to let that happen
<M-davidar> I always knew there was something shifty about that guy
<M-slang> Hehe, my sentiments exactly, davidar
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/stdin-stable from 3134bff to 628e458: https://git.io/voLRF
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/stdin-stable da4e54c Jakub Sztandera: Change stdin handling to be only used if needed...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/stdin-stable 4190076 Jakub Sztandera: Add the time-out script...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/stdin-stable 6822c0c Jakub Sztandera: Revert "Revert "Implements repository initialization with default config""...
<richardlitt> morning
<richardlitt> +o Kubuxu
<richardlitt> oh, already done. Sweet.
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<achin> richardlitt just thinks "+o Kubuxu" and magically It Is Done
<richardlitt> :P
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<Kubuxu> \o
<richardlitt> hey Kubuxu
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<richardlitt> Anything you think I can help with // should look at? Slowly working my way through the backlog
<richardlitt> 58 issues on go-ipfs left to read through :P
<Kubuxu> This need finalizing.
<Kubuxu> richardlitt: how was the hike?
<richardlitt> Taking a look at that now.
<richardlitt> Abandoned long distance hike after two days due to horrible midges (forgot how much they suck in Scotland), ended up hitching to the Outer Hebrides and hanging out there on the beach. Beautiful.
<richardlitt> Ah, yes. This is one of my main things for this week - sorry for not getting to it before I leftr.
<Kubuxu> Nice, sounds like you had a good time.
<richardlitt> I did. :)
<richardlitt> Should we have a 'gx' label? https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/2842
<Kubuxu> yeah, we can, I do lot of things with gx in go-ipfs
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<richardlitt> Added
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #398: Update chai-enzyme to version 0.5.0
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/ls-stuck from 3972d99 to 399ff38: https://git.io/vo3FE
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/ls-stuck d05d018 Jakub Sztandera: Disable resolving of the typ by default in ls...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/ls-stuck 399ff38 Jakub Sztandera: Make ipfs ls show type if it is avaliable locally...
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<noffle> morning
<noffle> richardlitt: welcome back!
<noffle> logistics: is sync in 30m or 1h30m? also, is it a full-sync or short-sync?
<noffle> since last week was tossed
<lgierth> noffle: 2.5 hours, 6pm UTC
<lgierth> and no sync at 4pm UTC
<Kubuxu> There is no sync.
<lgierth> Q2 Goals Review
<lgierth> so this sprint is a 3 week sprint hehe
<Kubuxu> Oh, there is sync, no sprint..
<lgierth> oh
<lgierth> right!
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<lgierth> just pusing the hangouts to next week
<lgierth> sorry
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<Kubuxu> but we might want to ask:
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<Kubuxu> daviddias, richardlitt: Is sync today at all?
<noffle> Kubuxu: no, no sync at all (finally read my emails)
<Kubuxu> ok
<Kubuxu> lgierth: ^^
<lgierth> ok
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<M-17739> test
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<noffle> M-17739: works!
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<dignifiedquire> noffle: really enjoying working with pull-streams :)
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<richardlitt> noffle: thanks!
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<xioustic> M-sokoow/Others (ultra late): I'll move my stuff to github soon; have had it on gitlab a long time but the DecentralizedWeb summit has inspired me to put more cool stuff out in the public after meeting the team.
<xioustic> Moving a blockchain explorer to IPFS means also moving the elements of the blockchain that matter to the end user; if built from multiple other blockchain explorers that are public, they should resolve to same MerkleDAG head, so it also gives a sort of "audit" layer.
<xioustic> Might demonstrate some benefits to those that might consider putting/distributing their blockchain via IPFS as well.
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<xioustic> Also I am not a big fan of the privacy implications had by so many depending on querying a public blockchain index for their mobile / lite Bitcoin wallets. Surveillance easily reveals who is interested in what addresses. Correlation becomes a little harder if querying via IPFS.
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<eaterjolly1> Greetings!
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<achin> floors on the trance door?
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: so many good patches <3
<whyrusleeping> feross: are you near philz in PA?
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: <3
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: concerning your request for a group hangout in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/2634 ...
<kevina> do you have something in specific in mind to talk about?
<kevina> or questions?
<kevina> I ask because I have a decent idea of what needs to be done.
<kevina> But need to write it up.
<kevina> There are some major issues that need to be worked trough before I am happy with merging this.
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<kevina> The main ones are concerning pinning and the garbage collector.
<kevina> Since I don't know where to put these issues, I think I am going to write one big document and then on the Wiki on my fork...
<kevina> And then we can decide what to do next.
<kevina> I meant to say "I think I am going to write one big document and put in on the Wiki at https://github.com/ipfs-filestore/go-ipfs/wiki"
<kevina> And then we can decide what to do with the information. For example if you want to talk about it, file issues etc.
<whyrusleeping> kevina: yeah, thats exactly what i was wanting to talk about. Basically getting a good idea of what is left to be done, what hard problems need to be worked out, and how the rest of the team can help out.
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<kevina> So I think it would be a good idea for me to write up the issues first, and then decide what to do next.
<kevina> Agree?
<whyrusleeping> agreed
<kevina> Will do in the next day or so.
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<whyrusleeping> go-ipfs captain's log update: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/2247#issuecomment-225731241
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voWzy
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/master 78653b3 David Dias: Update README.md
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<eaterjolly1> @archin Nope Floots the trance door
<daviddias> feross we are in Palo Alto! around?
<feross> oh nice!
<feross> yes, I am at blue bottle / hanahaus with thomas and DC
<daviddias> or, if anyone is in Palo Alto, me and whyrusleeping are at Philz :)
<feross> come!
<daviddias> nice
<daviddias> oh, they are also there, awesome!
<feross> oh nice, we just got here
<lgierth> o/
<eaterjolly1> Technically born in Palo Alto
<eaterjolly1> Never spent a day I remember there though
<daviddias> feross ok, we will meet you there in a bit then :)
<feross> daviddias: okay great!
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<ianopolous> super jealous of all you guys over there!
<lgierth> berlin has better lakes anyhow ?? ???????????
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<eaterjolly1> Has anyone tried compiling on an arm device?
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<lgierth> that's gonna take its time
<lgierth> not sure anyone has tried
<lgierth> people usually cross-compile or grab binaries from dist.ipfs.io
<whyrusleeping> I used to dev ipfs solely on an arm chromebook
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<lgierth> eaterjolly1: there you go :)
<lgierth> just make sure it's not raspbian lol
* M-hash considers an intervention for daviddias and whyrusleeping's "beverage" addiction
<daviddias> :D
<whyrusleeping> bruh
<whyrusleeping> i would not be surprised if someone told me they were putting something more potent than caffiene in these things
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* eaterjolly1 is totally using raspbian exclusively as their primary os
<M-hash> how many $units time are you in southbay? i'd alloc a day to hacks on go-ipld iff someone is willing to volunteer bandwidth at keeping me aimed right
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<ipfsrocks> Hi having trouble with js-ipfs and webpack
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<ipfsrocks> First issue is cannot resolve module 'fs', fixed in webpack.config.externals
<ipfsrocks> Then cannot resolve module 'idb-plus-blob-store' in node_modules/ipfs/lib/core/default-repo
<ipfsrocks> and 'net' in node_modules/libp2p-tcp/lib
<ipfsrocks> Not really looking for help just pointing out the experience is kind of painful
<dansup> lgierth, is there an ipfs search engine?
<lgierth> not that i'm aware of
<lgierth> there's an issue in ipfs/notes about search though
<lgierth> or multiple
<dansup> ok, thanks
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<dansup> is vincent cloutier here? https://github.com/cloutier
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<ianopolous> whyrusleeping: if you have a daemon running, and you separately gc IPFS will they play nicely together, or are there data races with that usage?
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