lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.2 released, with great performance and networking fixes! -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://github.com/ipfs/community/blob/master/code-of-conduct.md -- Sprints: https://github.com/ipfs/pm
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<A124> How do I fetch ipfs link recursively (directory)?
<A124> Nevermind. Seems the filestore development one was broken or broke for me.
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<zignig> whyrusleeping: greetings earthling.
<whyrusleeping> zignig: suh
<zignig> just got to work, raining ...
<whyrusleeping> raining in aus?
<zignig> it's winter down here.. soggy kangaroos
<zignig> how goes ipfs dev ?
<zignig> it's looking nice and active on github.
<zignig> I'm also working on astralboot again, it's been a while.
<zignig> I have an idea for an overlay network for ipfs too , I have some napkin drawings and a bit of code.
<zignig> I'll try to bash some more code out this weekend.
<A124> I am trying to get stuff through ipfs. It is very very slow.
<A124> Taking lot up upload. While ipfs gateway is fast. It is alexadria.io file.
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<A124> Have to figure out if their IPFS is slow or if it's me.
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<whyrusleeping> zignig: ipfs dev has been going great!
<whyrusleeping> we're at a decentralized web conference right now
<whyrusleeping> i'd love to see more work towards astralboot
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<M-lilien1010> hei baby
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<nicolagreco> the new web site is really great, that is going to be really important!
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<NeoTeo> +1 on website :) Super nice
<M-Magnap> How new is it? It's looked like that for at least a day
<M-Magnap> If we're talking about https://ipfs.io/
<Kubuxu> M-Magnap: so it is new, it looked differently for a year
<M-Magnap> Ah, ok. I'm new to ipfs, so I only saw the website yesterday
<ion> "<@whyrusleeping> we're at a decentralized web conference right now" Were you all centralized to a single location?
<Kubuxu> ion: Yes they were. Some people were complaining that the decentralized web conference should be decentralized itself.
<demize> Whoever is responsible for the website: blog links are borked.
<demize> They have a dot before blog.
<Kubuxu> demize: yes it was reported, fixed just not deployed yet
<demize> Ah.
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<haad> !pin Qmezm7g8mBpWyuPk6D84CNcfLKJwU6mpXuEN5GJZNkX3XK
<pinbot> usage: !pin <hash> <label>
<haad> !pin Qmezm7g8mBpWyuPk6D84CNcfLKJwU6mpXuEN5GJZNkX3XK proto2
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/Qmezm7g8mBpWyuPk6D84CNcfLKJwU6mpXuEN5GJZNkX3XK
<haad> !pin QmWUE2KN5qUHSVUewda6ThLvjhUQWp3KUVr6UoEc8jvLk8 orbitjs
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmWUE2KN5qUHSVUewda6ThLvjhUQWp3KUVr6UoEc8jvLk8
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<M-Magnap> Potentially stupid question: whose server is pinbot running on, pinning all that stuff?
* ligi_ was also just wondering about this ..
<haad> it's ipfs.io infra, pinbot pins them on the gateway servers afaik
<ligi_> haad: cool - can everyone use this?
<haad> not atm, admins only :)
<ligi_> doh
<haad> friends
<M-Magnap> Probably for the best. Allowing anyone to pin anything to your server is... risky
<haad> ligi_: I think lgierth is the admin of the bot, he might give you an access to pin
<ligi_> haad: thanks for the info
<ligi_> !pin QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2 ipfs-android-16-arm
<ligi_> !pin QmZp3wZU4MsU53P8isK5rVCcEdiSig2xdSzxJSEBgAw3Kg ipfs-android-16-386
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<ligi_> haad: would you be so kind and pin those 2 binaries for me?
<ligi_> lgierth: or perhaps you could give me access to the functionality?
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<Kubuxu> ligi_: best wrap them in directories, so when they are download they have filenames
<ligi_> Kubuxu: my app will be the only one downloading them - so I think this is not needed
<Kubuxu> Oh ok
<ligi_> it is mainly for fdroid
<Kubuxu> !pin QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2 ipfs-android-16-arm
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2
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<Kubuxu> >!pin QmZp3wZU4MsU53P8isK5rVCcEdiSig2xdSzxJSEBgAw3Kg ipfs-android-16-386
<Kubuxu> !pin QmZp3wZU4MsU53P8isK5rVCcEdiSig2xdSzxJSEBgAw3Kg ipfs-android-16-386
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmZp3wZU4MsU53P8isK5rVCcEdiSig2xdSzxJSEBgAw3Kg
<ligi_> Kubuxu: thanks!
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<ligi_> wonder when these files are available on the gw - still HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
<Kubuxu> ligi_: they didn't got pinned yet
<Kubuxu> ligi_: I think something at your end might have failed
<ligi_> Kubuxu: I can ipfs get locally and the daemon is running - not yet sure what can fail there on my side - any hint on where I should look?
<ligi_> ⋊> ~ ipfs get /ipfs/QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2 11:20:49
<ligi_> Saving file(s) to QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2
<ligi_> 26.58 MB 0
<Kubuxu> ligi_: you can try connecting to one of QmSol servers.
<Kubuxu> /ip4/104.236.151.122/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmSoLju6m7xTh3DuokvT3886QRYqxAzb1kShaanJgW36yx
<Kubuxu> /ip4/104.236.176.52/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmSoLnSGccFuZQJzRadHn95W2CrSFmZuTdDWP8HXaHca9z
<Kubuxu> /ip4/104.236.76.40/tcp/14001/ipfs/QmSoLV4Bbm51jM9C4gDYZQ9Cy3U6aXMJDAbzgu2fzaDs64
<Kubuxu> /ip4/128.199.219.111/tcp/14001/ipfs/QmSoLSafTMBsPKadTEgaXctDQVcqN88CNLHXMkTNwMKPnu
<Kubuxu> Also `ipfs refs -r QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2` gets stuck on about 10 refs (2M)
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<ligi_> Kubuxu: thanks - connecting to them - not sure why this is needed though
<Kubuxu> It shouldn't.
<ligi_> connect QmSoLju6m7xTh3DuokvT3886QRYqxAzb1kShaanJgW36yx success
<Kubuxu> For some reason you node didn't publish the provider records for further refs.
<Kubuxu> ipfs dht findprovs QmVrfaV96RNwh5d5F9PSCw9qZHsGJkGDRiakXe75NhKJrF
<Kubuxu> gives me nothing
<ligi_> I am running stock 0.4.2
<Kubuxu> Try adding those files again.
<ligi_> shouldnt this be a nop?
<ligi_> added QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2 QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2
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<Kubuxu> I think it might republish the provider records to dht.
<Kubuxu> Hmm, still not working
<Kubuxu> Can you give me output of: ipfs id -f "<addrs>"
<ligi_> ⋊> ~ ipfs id -f QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2 11:30:26
<ligi_> QmRMHb4Vhv8LtYqw8RkDgkdZYxJHfrfFeQaHbNUqJYmdF2⏎
<Kubuxu> The <addrs> is formatting argument it should be left like that.
<Kubuxu> This will give me your address and I can try connecting to it.
<ligi_> /ip4/127.0.0.1/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmP9EREUHjvroaJEARgwCsbv6mzLzCedxGteoVEihnYDtt
<ligi_> /ip4/192.168.2.113/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmP9EREUHjvroaJEARgwCsbv6mzLzCedxGteoVEihnYDtt
<ligi_> /ip4/172.17.0.1/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmP9EREUHjvroaJEARgwCsbv6mzLzCedxGteoVEihnYDtt
<ligi_> /ip6/::1/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmP9EREUHjvroaJEARgwCsbv6mzLzCedxGteoVEihnYDtt
<Kubuxu> Looks like you are NATed two times.
<Kubuxu> IPFS should be able to punch through either way, weird.
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<Kubuxu> you can try restarting the daemon, maybe it will work.
<ligi_> lol the second I killed the daemon the wget starts downloading
<ligi_> this is weird
<ligi_> I feel this should be a bugreport - but not yet sure how to formulate
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<alexis> Hi!
<M-almet> Hi :)
<ligi_> Kubuxu: I have to constantly restart the daemon to get bytes through - I see it at the wget output - as soon as I restart the daemon there is progress
<Kubuxu> interesting
<Kubuxu> I have no idea what is going on
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<alexis> M-almet: yop
<ligi_> Kubuxu: me neither - even worse - I am not sure how to make a useful bugreport from this
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<Kubuxu> ligi_: it finally worked
<ligi_> Kubuxu: yea I had to restart the daemon like 20 times
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<ligi_> always after it there where some bytes flowing
<ligi_> about to create a bugreport
<Kubuxu> weird
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<lgierth> haad: you can do !befriend too
<lgierth> !befriend
<pinbot> !befriend <name> <perm>
<lgierth> where perm=friend|admin
<lgierth> or pinner|admin or so
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: making new friends ;)
<lgierth> :)
<ligi__> lgierth: would it be possible to give me the right to pin? I promise to only pin legal content ..
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<M-16544> hello boyz
<lgierth> !befriend ligi
<pinbot> !befriend <name> <perm>
<lgierth> !befriend ligi admin
<pinbot> Hey ligi, let's be friends! You can admin
<M-16544> did you guys see the bliksem yesterday?
<ligi> lgierth: thanks! Is there a size-constraint? Let's say if I would want to pin all apks from f-droid - would this be OK?
<lgierth> ligi: don't use it for big archive-style things ;) i can give you access to one of the storage nodes for that
<lgierth> pinbot pins small stuff like website or pdfs on the gateways
<ligi> lgierth: ack
<ligi> lgierth: but this is not about archiving stuff ..
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<M-16549> hey
<Kubuxu> ligi: yeah but whole repository is quite big I think and it isn't needed at the first level (gateway) servers.
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-ipfs-bitswap-0.5.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vos9t
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-ipfs-bitswap-0.5.0 5d01b0b greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update ipfs-bitswap to version 0.5.0...
<ligi> Kubuxu: can I somewhere read about this infrastructure?
<Kubuxu> I don't think there is much written down.
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<MJRider> Kubuxu: is there a need for more public gateways ?
<ligi> perhaps the index on gw and the apks on archive node - but without knowing about the infrastructure it is hard to tell
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<Kubuxu> MJRider: not really
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<Kubuxu> ligi: It doesn't matter where in IPFS network it is, 'storage servers' are just servers with quite a lot of HDD space. It isn't "archive node" it is just node with space that is not being used. Gateway servers use the space for caching.
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<ligi_> Kubuxu: ah - thanks for clarification
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<ligi_> and pinning on the 'storage servers' is done in a different way?
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<Kubuxu> ligi_: it is done by directly connecting to server, downloading something there and adding it to IPFS
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<ligi_> Kubuxu: ok
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #319: Update ipfs-bitswap to version 0.5.0
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<bigttrott> hi quick question, is IPFS able to run on an Android OS? i.e. can a cell phone host a node?
<ligi_> bigttrott: working on exactly this atm ;-)
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<bigttrott> cool, so for a static website for instance, you would just copy the files to local storage and use the app to add the files, thus a cell phone server of sorts?
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<ligi_> bigttrott: you can do this
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<ligi_> bigttrott: but it consumes a lot of bandwidth / cpu currently
<bigttrott> awesome thanks, Ill take a more in depth look at the link you posted
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/test-datastore from 87cd2ea to 522c590: https://git.io/voGfy
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/test-datastore 522c590 Jakub Sztandera: test: Treat Close and Closing the same way...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu closed pull request #2832: In blockstore tests treat Close and Closing the same way (master...feature/test-datastore) https://git.io/vo3d2
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feature/test-datastore at 522c590: https://git.io/voGCE
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/voGCK
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 62fb45b Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2831 from ipfs/feature/test-stanity...
<bronger> Which parts of the IPFS paper, draft 3, are outdated, or about to become outdated? In particular, I wonder how new things like IPLD or libp2p affect it.
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<mgue> In the whitepaper on page 10; 3.7.2 Human Friendly Names; Is there a way for the other party of a link to obtain all PK that link to it? In this case, can "Bob" find out that "Alice" linked to his PK and therefore marked him (Bob) has her (Alice) friend?
<mgue> In other words, can I obtain a list of all links that point to a certain hash?
<lgierth> nope not easily
<lgierth> would need kind of an index on top which turns the links around
<mgue> lgierth: Thanks. That's what I thought. I will think about how to implement it :)
<mgue> lgierth: Do you know whether there are plans to implement something like this? A reverse DNS lookup for IPNS?
<lgierth> cool! drop your thoughts in the ipfs/notes repo if you'd like some feedback from others
<lgierth> no concrete plans -- but people have been thinking about search engines and the like
<lgierth> see ipfs/notes :)
<mgue> kk will do
<lgierth> and we're always happy about people trying stuff out
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<bronger> Am I correct that the twomost important methods of privacy in IPFS is 1. Not publishng a hash in the first place and 2. object-level cryptography?
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<aluu> Hey u guys at archive today?
<reit> bronger, yes, that's right
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<bronger> reit, Thank you!
<reit> note that by publish i mean add it to your local repo, which by default will push its addressing info out to the dht
<reit> (in case you were thinking only of ipns)
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<bronger> I didn't think of IPNS.
<bronger> But you're right, I didn't tough of the necessity to publish the hash to the DHT.
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<bronger> So, putting it in the local storage will by default make the object known and accessable, right?
<jonnycrunch> does the ipfs docker container run on ARM processor ( i.e. raspberrypi) ?
<bronger> My problem is: I evaluate IPFS for research data. Here, some data should not be accessable to anyone -- at least not immediately. Still, I think researchers may benefit from IPFS even for their own use. But how do I distinguish between files only for the institute, and those for everybody?
<lgierth> jonnycrunch: no, the image is amd64 -- you need to build your own arm image
<jonnycrunch> lgierth: thx
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<noffle> mgue: hey, found a link for you on current backlink discussion :) https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs/issues/31
<noffle> bronger: there's not an easy way of doing this *yet*. one safe approach today would be having the machine with the internal-only ipfs node be prevented from making any connections outside of a whitelist at the iproute level
<Kubuxu> bronger: 1. there is plan to allow for creation of private IPFS swarms
<Kubuxu> bronger: 2. Just encrypt everything :p
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feature/refs-local-api at 8be37ea: https://git.io/voG9m
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: could we get go-datastore into gx next?
<whyrusleeping> we own that one so we can do it nicely with a real package.json too
<Kubuxu> go-datastore has more Godeps now than go-ipfs :p
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<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: can you give me write access to go-datastore, so I don't have to write on fork?
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: sure thing
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: done
<Kubuxu> ty
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<Kubuxu> Looks like 'elastigo' is a dead code in go-datastore
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<whyrusleeping> possibly
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<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: that line is probably wrong: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/package.json#L6
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: hahahaha
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<nicolagreco> calling the plane company to postpone my flight for a week
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<galois_d_> IPNS question: I'm running a small set of IPFS nodes in a VM, connected only to each other and not the outside world, and I "ipfs name publish" a name with standard 24 hour TTL (or, alternatively, I mess with the /ipns filesystem and it republishes accordingly). I then shut down the VM, and don't restart it for a day or so. When I restart it, the name I published is gone (and as a result, /ipns won't mount). Is there any straightforward wa
<galois_d_> y to deal with that?
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<galois_dmz> What I figured I'd try was to have a cron job or something, that would - while the VM was still running - record in a snapshot file or something whatever "ipfs name resolve" gave it, and then on a reboot, if "ipfs name resolve" couldn't look up the name, it would republish it before trying to mount.
<galois_dmz> However, I'm running into the slightly annoying issue that "ipfs name resolve" doesn't seem to work within my cron job - if I run it at the command line, I get the expected result; if I run it in a cron job (with IPFS_PATH set correctly, I made sure of that), I get "Error: could not resolve name".
<galois_dmz> I'd appreciate any suggestions, if anybody has some.
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<whyrusleeping> galois_dmz: when you restart your daemon, it will republish the record
<whyrusleeping> it probably doesnt run in a cron job well due to the stdin bug we have
<whyrusleeping> (which is almost fixed)
<galois_dmz> I would have thought that too... but it doesn't seem to. Or at least, not fast enough to make "--mount" work.
<whyrusleeping> oh, yeah
<whyrusleeping> not fast enough for --mount to work since the mountpoint will try to execute (and fail) first...
<galois_dmz> So you're saying that if I wait long enough, "--mount" will just work?
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<whyrusleeping> thats an interesting race condition that is worth filing an issue for
<galois_dmz> OK, I'll do that. But in the meantime, if I simply wait long enough, it should work?
<galois_dmz> (long enough = "until the output of ipfs name resolve gives me something")
<whyrusleeping> galois_dmz: i think so, yeah
<whyrusleeping> feross: HEY
<galois_dmz> OK, I'll give it a shot.
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<baffo32> hi channel, do I need to run an extra daemon to use ipns? "Error: core/resolve: no Namesys on IpfsNode - can't resolve ipns entry" where do I find Namesys?
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<galois_dmz> 1
* whyrusleeping just spent $10 for a single cup of coffee
<galois_dmz> (oops; wrong window)
* whyrusleeping might feel a little bad about this
<feross> whyrusleeping: hey
<whyrusleeping> baffo32: you will need to be connected to the network
<whyrusleeping> or at least one other node
<whyrusleeping> feross: Hey! are you going to ndoeconf?
<baffo32> ah-ha
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<mgue> noffle, thx
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<baffo32> whyrusleeping: I'm trying to get ipns-pub working again, upgrading go helped a lot, but I'm running into issues between go-libp2p-crypto and go-libp2p/p2p/crypto, I wonder if maybe you'd queue updating the dependencies?
<whyrusleeping> baffo32: i pushed a dependency 'fix' today
<baffo32> oh thanks
<whyrusleeping> i'm sorry about that mess, theres a lot to pay attention to
<whyrusleeping> and its difficult to depend on go-ipfs itself because its deps are still half in godeps
<whyrusleeping> once we're fully in the gx land it will be better
<baffo32> eh sorry I didn't notice the fix !
<baffo32> nice finally runs ^_^
<whyrusleeping> wooo!
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<baffo32> damn DEPRECATED Action signature. Must be `cli.ActionFunc`.
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<whyrusleeping> oooooh, yeah...
<whyrusleeping> i'll fix that
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<baffo32> I added 'error' to the sig locally and changed 'return' to 'return nil' and it works =D
<whyrusleeping> lol
<whyrusleeping> i just pushed some changes that also replace all the 'fatal' calls with a return err
<whyrusleeping> makes the code a tiny bit cleaner
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<baffo32> thank you for fixing this up
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