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<lgierth>
does your car run android yet?
<lgierth>
just wondering if you'd be interested in running ipfs in your car
<A124>
whyrusleeping Unless it was fluke or unless it was network related or specific to that single build, the context noise is still there. From 200 to 16k average
<A124>
*6k average
<dansup>
lgierth, it does run linux, im not sure if its android
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<dansup>
2016 mazda 3
<lgierth>
great, we can probably build a firmware-blob for you
<lgierth>
guaranteed backdoor-free!
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<dansup>
blob, lel
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<M-rongladney>
A124 (IRC): The webui is not working properly for me or ... I am not installing it correctly
<XY0>
^ I have the same problem ubuntu 14 with apache
<XY0>
however on windows (lol) it worked right out of the box
<M-rongladney>
I am using the latest version of Mac OX El Captain 10.11 on my MacBook Pro
<M-rongladney>
However, the WebUI is not working ....
<M-rongladney>
It would make my life so much easier if it did....since I am new to IPFS
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<M-rongladney>
Does anyone have a working solutions to making the WebUI work properly....
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<dansup>
kpcyrd, lgierth : the php-multihash library is almost ready :)
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<XY0>
how well does ipfs handle large ammounts of files, ie: 6 to 10 TB?
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] thomas-gardner opened pull request #2902: commands: remove EnableStdin support for StringArg [v2] (master...commands) https://git.io/voy8l
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* A124
If you ever upgrade docker, and your containers have some data that should be persisted and they are not mapped by volume to local filesystem, ... it might just be gone or pointing to another new internal volume. So any services may break.
<Kubuxu>
A124: that is why I prefer LXC instead of docker, you have to think a bit more but I am sure that it works as I want.
<Kubuxu>
Same reason you switch from Windows to Linux, you want to have control what is going on.
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<tmg>
Kubuxu: zzz, missed some sharness tests
<Kubuxu>
tmg: that is normal, I almost never run sharness before PRin, it takes too long.
<Kubuxu>
I localize failing tests on CI, and run single failing test then locally.
<Kubuxu>
easiest way to do it: `cd test/sharness/; make $TESTFILE`
<tmg>
Kubuxu: should I change these `echo "$HASH" |ipfs cat` tests to xargs or just nix them?
<A124>
Kubuxu I am fine with that, I had backup and just moved the service, but left it running as backup, which I found out was gone.
<Kubuxu>
tmg: I think change them to xargs, nothing is wrong with more tests, and it will show usecase.
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/root-is-symlink from 00c3271 to 4ce81d6: https://git.io/voDc3
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/root-is-symlink 4ce81d6 Jakub Sztandera: test: Directly referenced symlink should be resolved...
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<lgierth>
when you meet ipfs contributors at the supermarket
<stoogenmeyer>
hey folks.. i have a question - bittorrent has the characteristic that I can fetch a file from multiple peers simultenously, can IPFS at the moment do the same? or if a file is found with a peer ipfs will only pull it from that peer and not look in other places as well? also, its not possible to host parts of a file right?
<lgierth>
it will pull it from multiple
<lgierth>
it is possible to host parts of a file
<lgierth>
all objects (including files) are chunked
<stoogenmeyer>
is it possible to host part of a file indefinitely, or will ipfs try to complete the file by fetching the rest of it?
<lgierth>
if you request it, it'll try fetching all of it
<lgierth>
if you just have it, it'll do nothing except offering it to others
<lgierth>
you can prevent it from being garbage collected by pinning it
<stoogenmeyer>
so having only part of a file sort of requires manually getting to that state?.. I realize it's probably not desired behavior, just asking out of curiosity
<lgierth>
ipfs will only fetch what you ask it to fetch
<lgierth>
there is no automatic "spreading" of files over the network
<Kubuxu>
stoogenmeyer: if you read only part of a file IPFS will fetch only part of a file
<Kubuxu>
Think streamable video with seeking.
<stoogenmeyer>
oh ok.. understood. thanks for explaining lgierth and Kubuxu
<Kubuxu>
lgierth: can you +o
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<ansuz>
lgierth: can you +o ?
<ansuz>
thx
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<lgierth>
ansuz: not until i get that video!
<Kubuxu>
Trying to pack things back into IKEA packages is hard.
<Kubuxu>
I am watching IKEA unboxing right now...
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<ipfsbot>
[js-ipfs-api] RichardLitt created feature/standardize-readme (+1 new commit): https://git.io/voyru
<ipfsbot>
js-ipfs-api/feature/standardize-readme a85cfb9 Richard Littauer: Standardize README...
<pinbot>
now pinning /ipfs/QmVHzEAwUNow7jhABCZEc9KECfCvfJq7ucNx4eXCrP26Da
<whyrusleeping>
M-mubot: that wasnt for you!
<Kubuxu>
whyrusleeping: M-mubot always eats up the snacks for pinbot
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<pinbot>
[host 7] failed to pin /ipfs/QmVHzEAwUNow7jhABCZEc9KECfCvfJq7ucNx4eXCrP26Da: unknown ipfs-shell error encoding: text/html - "<html>\r\n<head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>\r\n<body bgcolor=\"white\">\r\n<center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>nginx/1.10.1</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"
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[host 0] failed to pin /ipfs/QmVHzEAwUNow7jhABCZEc9KECfCvfJq7ucNx4eXCrP26Da: unknown ipfs-shell error encoding: text/html - "<html>\r\n<head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>\r\n<body bgcolor=\"white\">\r\n<center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>nginx/1.10.1</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"
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<whyrusleeping>
whoa.
<whyrusleeping>
lgierth: pinbot?
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<lgierth>
whyrusleeping: restarter
<lgierth>
at :25 and :55
<whyrusleeping>
lgierth: ah, makes sense
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<pinbot>
[host 2] failed to pin /ipfs/QmVHzEAwUNow7jhABCZEc9KECfCvfJq7ucNx4eXCrP26Da: unknown ipfs-shell error encoding: text/html - "<html>\r\n<head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>\r\n<body bgcolor=\"white\">\r\n<center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>nginx/1.10.1</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"
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[host 5] failed to pin /ipfs/QmVHzEAwUNow7jhABCZEc9KECfCvfJq7ucNx4eXCrP26Da: unknown ipfs-shell error encoding: text/html - "<html>\r\n<head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>\r\n<body bgcolor=\"white\">\r\n<center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>nginx/1.10.1</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"
<whyrusleeping>
i think daviddias tried pinning and turned his computer off before it finished
<daviddias>
whyrusleeping: I left it on
<daviddias>
But it is 50Gb
<daviddias>
Did it have to be restarted.
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<whyrusleeping>
dude no
<whyrusleeping>
you cant pin 50GB on the gateways
<daviddias>
Ok. It is the open street maps tiles. Will ping lgierth then
<whyrusleeping>
those have to be pinned on the storage nodes
<daviddias>
What's the capacity of pinbot?
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<whyrusleeping>
about 30GB
<Kubuxu>
rip pinbot
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<daviddias>
my and filling up storage xD
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<whyrusleeping>
daviddias: quit doing that.
<whyrusleeping>
my zfs array is still recovering from you :P
<daviddias>
I'll have to make the deal that each time I fill a disk, I donate a new disk
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/dskey-encoding (+1 new commit): https://git.io/voSRX
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding df4ac32 Jeromy: encode keys to datastore with base32 standard encoding...
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2903: encode keys to datastore with base32 standard encoding (master...feat/dskey-encoding) https://git.io/voS0R
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<dignifiedquire>
daviddias: are you sure you can afford that?
<lgierth>
daviddias: could you unpin?
<lgierth>
you can do it on nihal
<_mak>
is it possible to see how many 'pins' a file has?
<A124>
Are key lookups on DHT cached? So that one does not have to ask each time again. Just looking how to minimize impact on the resources of a each node. If there is 64bit uuid space then on Kademlia that means up to 64 peers * 64 hops that is a lot of traffic.
<_mak>
the only way for a file to exist on ipfs is if people pin it right?
<lgierth>
_mak: no, pinning is to prevent it from being garbage-collected
<_mak>
which will happen in time
<lgierth>
only if you run with --enable-gc, and then only if the size of your repo exceeds a watermark
<A124>
gc is disabled by default now?
<lgierth>
always has been
<_mak>
suppose you want to build a site that uses a DB, the only DB you could use is one that store the data in json files right?
<A124>
Well did not notice. Trying to figure out a way to either fix IPFS or build complete system on my own. Though if IPFS was not resource heavy, using that and pairing with own service via libp2p would have been best.
<_mak>
is there an example of how a site with DB would work out on ipfs?
<A124>
_mak DB is too wide of a term.
<_mak>
or the platform is not mean to support this type of use?
<A124>
IPFS has merkle tree so you can just build tree of objects.
<_mak>
yeah, but a DB that is saved in a single file (ie: sqlite) would not benefit from incremental updates
<A124>
_mak (I'am not IPFS dev) Stuff is in development. Not sure about specific stuff on IPFS, but as I noted objects.
<A124>
There is also BigchainDB, but that is nonexistent at this point of time.
<A124>
And OrbitDB, which does use objects and pub sub.
<A124>
OrbitDB is on top of IPFS
<_mak>
nice, I'll read about it
<_mak>
did you built something for ipfs?
<_mak>
*build
<A124>
_mak I said objects, not single file, you have problems with perception of concepts in distributed and tree systems. ... Also if you really, really wanted to have some sort of one file DB, if that file does update stuff in place, that would mean you could just update those blocks that changed. The ones that are in common would still be there (current IPFS blocksize is 256k)
<A124>
I am (trying) doing a lot of stuff. A lot of it is research, nothing particular to say "this".
<A124>
Running into resource problems, to utilize IPFS I require much lower strain on resources. So that, or will just use libp2p with streams or other stuff over it and my own DB.
<_mak>
A124: oh I get it. so even if you're using a single file DB, only the diffs of that file would be synched to the rest of the nodes
<_mak>
but would the file hash be the same?
<A124>
My usecases are pretty specific and I have high requirements on efficiencies where most people do not. Text data, knowledge, human tools, auto tools, and file info.
<A124>
No, it would not be the same. File is object that has links to all the chunks.
<_mak>
if you 'require file mydb.db', will mydb.db always point to the most up-to-date hash?
<A124>
No, but you can use ipns.
<A124>
The whole point of hashes is that they repesent content.
<_mak>
I fail to understand how can you reference a dynamic object
<A124>
And of course the neat combination with tree is that top level depends on all sub levels, so you do not have to check (except for integrity) if anything changed.
<_mak>
only with ipns?
<A124>
_mak of what I know yes. ipns. Or pub sub.
<A124>
_mak Chances are that if you are using single file database, and is not meant to be published at certain intervals or events only, then you are thinking wrong.
<_mak>
what would be the right mental model in this case?
<_mak>
only multiple files DBs (like couchDB)?
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu created feature/repo-runtime-check (+3 new commits): https://git.io/voSgT
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check 5ee20c8 Jakub Sztandera: blockstore: add fetch rehashing...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check a42f3aa Jakub Sztandera: tests: Add test to RuntimeHashing option of blockstore...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check a5ef1d8 Jakub Sztandera: core: Add config for datastore read hashign
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #2904: Add option for datastore read rehashing (master...feature/repo-runtime-check) https://git.io/voSgP
<A124>
_mak implement it on top of ipfs
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/repo-runtime-check from a5ef1d8 to 39adcb3: https://git.io/voSgA
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go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check 39adcb3 Jakub Sztandera: core: Add config option for datastore read rehashing...
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/repo-runtime-check from 39adcb3 to a84c859: https://git.io/voSgA
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check 989e91b Jakub Sztandera: blockstore: add fetch rehashing...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check f268696 Jakub Sztandera: tests: Add test to RuntimeHashing option of blockstore...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check a84c859 Jakub Sztandera: core: Add config option for datastore read rehashing...
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<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feat/dskey-encoding from df4ac32 to c2238af: https://git.io/voSaV
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding c2238af Jeromy: encode keys to datastore with base32 standard encoding...
<ipfsbot>
[go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to feature/repo-runtime-check: https://git.io/voSad
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go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check c04c1dc Jakub Sztandera: config: Add explicit default value for HashOnRead...
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[go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/repo-runtime-check from c04c1dc to 174ab12: https://git.io/voSgA
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go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check 0f3dc1e Jakub Sztandera: core: Add config option for datastore read rehashing...
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go-ipfs/feature/repo-runtime-check 174ab12 Jakub Sztandera: config: Add explicit default value for HashOnRead...
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[go-ipfs] lgierth force-pushed coreapi from aa6dec1 to 7624dc0: https://git.io/voopO
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go-ipfs/coreapi f9b68d3 Lars Gierth: coreapi: start implementing it...
<ipfsbot>
go-ipfs/coreapi 7624dc0 Lars Gierth: WIP...
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go-ipfs/coreapi 95ba63a Lars Gierth: gateway: use coreapi for GET...
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[host 3] failed to pin /ipfs/QmVHzEAwUNow7jhABCZEc9KECfCvfJq7ucNx4eXCrP26Da: unknown ipfs-shell error encoding: text/html - "<html>\r\n<head><title>502 Bad Gateway</title></head>\r\n<body bgcolor=\"white\">\r\n<center><h1>502 Bad Gateway</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>nginx/1.10.1</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"