<kevina>
Qazerowl: I am not sure there is a single document (whyrusleeping or some of the other core developers would now more), but you can see the go-ipfs milestones
<qazerowl>
thanks, the milestone page was pretty much what i was looking for
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<kevina>
glad I could help :)
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<simcop2387>
has anyone made a C or C++ IPFS implementation? I'm curious to see how hard it'd be to implement on a small scale (1/4MB of ram small)
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<rsynnest[m]1>
is anyone here working on the orbit chat app? I'm getting a runtime error when trying to login
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<simcop2387>
based on the description of things i think it should be doable (with the addition of an SD card). IPFS might be a great solution to handling IoT data
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<Mateon1>
simcop2387: There is work on a C implementation going on right now. It's barely started, so not sure how resource consumption will look like. Let me get a link to the repos
<simcop2387>
cool. it'd be nice to see but i also strongly suspect i'd end up having to do a lot of it custom to fit it. I also suspect i'd have to store a lot on the sd card that'd normally be kept in memory on a full system
<simcop2387>
yea there's definitely some issues there. I'm assuming he's planning on doing other verification stuff there. I'd likely end up stripping out all the SCTP stuff, and doing only TCP (maybe UDP) given the constrains of the system.
<haad>
rsynnest[m]1: I'm working on Orbit. if you're seeing an error running Orbit, could you open an issue for that (there might be already one)? that would help a lot to make sure it gets fixed.
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<haad>
rsynnest[m]1: thanks for reporting it!
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<Aelius>
hey all, I'm not sure how to use the 'ipfs files' set of commands
<Aelius>
I made a folder with ipfs files mkdir /test
<Aelius>
I can see it with ipfs files ls /
<Aelius>
but I can't move actual files into it?
<Aelius>
I'm not sure what this construct is for or what it represents
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<Kubuxu>
you can copy files from `/ipfs/` space to it
<Kubuxu>
so add a file `ipfs add some-file-on-my-SSD`
<Kubuxu>
get its hash
<Kubuxu>
and then do `ipfs cp /ipfs/$HASH /test/`
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<Aelius>
Kubuxu: thanks, that worked, but what does one do with this? What is it meant for?
<Kubuxu>
then you can do: ipfs files stat --hash /
<Kubuxu>
to get the hash of the / in filesAPI
<Kubuxu>
this way you can easily build directory trees
<Kubuxu>
with properties like 0-cost copy
<Kubuxu>
and deduplication
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<Aelius>
I see, neat
<Aelius>
let's say I had a set of pictures stored in ipfs
<Aelius>
would I have to mount /ipfs in order to open those pictures with a program?
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<Aelius>
I know I can open a single file on stdin wth ipfs cat
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<victorbjelkholm>
good morning world and #ipfs!
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<dignifiedquire>
good morning victorbjelkholm
<haad>
good morning all o/
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<pcre>
I was thinking. Maybe i will use toxcore to distribute the merkle links created by commented.sh. tox is a peer to peer messenger library. So i will use the hash(url) as a seed to create a groupchat. every client can then connect to the group chat and send the merkle links and or receive them to display.
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<dignifiedquire>
hey haad sorry I left the conversation hanging yesterday, I wasn't feeling all too well. I will write some more details up on how to move forward with this later today
<haad>
dignifiedquire: which conversation? :) no worries whichever it was, rest up if you're not feeling well. nothing is burning afaik.
<haad>
dignifiedquire: btw. I got the minification working with the beta uglifyjs
<haad>
last night
<dignifiedquire>
I meant the one about outdated/non existing docs
<dignifiedquire>
glad to hear that
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<waha>
anyone know whether ECIES is quantum computer resistant?
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<waha>
@haad hey do you know the difference between kadmilia routing and libp2p? Cause in my mind libp2p is sort of doing what kad routing does, but for some reason this https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-kad-routing exists. Need some clarification if you don't mind please.
<waha>
daviddias: haad: ^^
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<haad>
whyrusleeping: sorry, I don't know that part. daviddias does.
<jbenet>
woah what. 1000 users here?
<jbenet>
bunch of matrix dead guests maybe?
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<Mateon1>
jbenet: Yeah, I think we've discussed a Matrix 'single user' mode before, where there is one bridge user and people only join as an IRC user on chat. As far as I know, this never went anywhere.
<ansuz>
that would be great
<ansuz>
getting 52 pages of backscroll when matrix dies is unfortunate
<ansuz>
(I counted one time)
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<jchevalay>
hi all
<victorbjelkholm>
hellow!
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<jchevalay>
i have one question : how to list all sub element to hash. for exemple when use ipfs add -r <my_directory> it's possbile by one command list all element ?
<jchevalay>
for exemple like ipfs ls -r <root_hash>
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<victorbjelkholm>
jchevalay: you mean like a recursive ls?
<Mateon1>
jchevalay: ipfs refs -r <hash>
<jchevalay>
victorbjelkholm yes
<Mateon1>
Note that `ipfs refs` only gives hashes by default, you can play with the --format="" option. for example, --format="<src> <dst> <linkname>" will show the source hash, target hash, and link name if any.
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<jchevalay>
Mateon1 thx a lot
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<waha>
PeerId.create is returning a json in which the public key is coming as undefined.
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<qqq>
hey, anyone around this time of day?
<waha>
when I try to generate a peer-id using nodejs, I am getting public key as undefined. The actual id and RSApriv key are being generated fine, any idea guys?
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<waha>
dignifiedquire: ^^
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<dignifiedquire>
waha: the public key is part of the private key
<dignifiedquire>
you can call privateKey.public to get it
<qqq>
hey.. this is a very general question, and I don't intend to actually do it but is it possible to enumerate ipfs peers by doing vast network port scanning?
<waha>
ohhh never seen that github.io link before. Will study this in detail . Thank!
<Kenneth_Seelig[m>
What is the best way to host a GIT repo on IPFS? (not static)
<Mateon1>
qqq: That shouldn't really be needed, as you already know a lot of peers via connections and dht (providers). ipfs swarm addrs is a list of recently seen peerIDs and addresses.
<Mateon1>
Why would you want to enumerate peers, though?
<Mateon1>
If for counting the size of the network, that probably won't work, but it's a good estimate/lower bound
<Mateon1>
qqq: Also, there exist a lot of IPFS peers behind NATs, so port scanning wouldn't really work well
<qqq>
So I don't actually want to enumerate IPFSs nodes. But you guys are my networking knowledge resource so I figured I'd frame the question in your terms (-:
<Kenneth_Seelig[m>
jchevalay (IRC): Yes, thanks, but as you pointed out, it is static. I have been looking at IPFS for awhile for a usecase that required GIT support and was triggered by this video https://youtu.be/f2bY6vLgARk?t=17m36s, where David Dias mentions experimental support of GIT. I was immediately thinking full support, but maybe that is not the case.
<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m i think your need is a good need but i think is not way choose by IPFS
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<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m for exemple if you add an docuement. if you change your document and re-use ipfs add you have two hash for two document version
<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m i thnik we can't override an document
<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m git need to re-write a files into your .git
<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m so after x change and push into ipfs you x hash for one repositories
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<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m but i think you can create an "github on ipfs" to track this change =)
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<jchevalay>
Kenneth_Seelig[m do you see it : Kenneth_Seelig[m
<jchevalay>
i think that use system try to explain you
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<Kenneth_Seelig[m>
@jchevalay yeah I saw that and it seems like a good solution. I've seen GIT support mentioned in a roadmap for IPFS and today heard it mentioned by David Dias, so thought there might be something I couldn't readily find online. Thanks!
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<pinbot>
now pinning /ipfs/QmfLbFTNPgj5AYjTiqY8iNrR8FgMvstGz88VyRGV3TUcwM
<pinbot>
[host 2] failed to pin /ipfs/QmfLbFTNPgj5AYjTiqY8iNrR8FgMvstGz88VyRGV3TUcwM: cannot store pin state: write /data/ipfs/datastore/381203.log: no space left on device
<haad>
for those interested, fixed Orbit today and as a side effect, got nice html-in-ipfs-in-orbit-running-running thing going
<ansuz>
are there plans for e2e crypto in orbit?
<haad>
ansuz: when ipfs does e2e crypto
<ansuz>
ah
<ansuz>
I figured the messages could have it
<ansuz>
but crypto is a lot of work
<haad>
ansuz: I think the challenge is not e2e crypto per se but key distribution / management.
<ansuz>
indeed
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<haad>
daviddias: didn't get to work on pubsub today as I was fixing orbit. tell gavin that too :) it was great to see what you did last night so leave me a message again on GH if you made progress. my plan is to work on pubsub tomorrow (js-ipfs version, pick up from you tomorrow morning) and try to get a version running.
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<daviddias>
haad: roger :)
<daviddias>
yeah, js-ipfs-api looks solid, tests pass, we have a bunch of tests and even benchmark tests (thank you for those! :))
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<daviddias>
I would like to get those two PR in js-ipfs-api to become just one
<daviddias>
while me and gavin get to hack on pubsub in js-ipfs
<daviddias>
gavin will be here tomorrow with me and I am hoping to ship it :D
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<haad>
cool
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<seharder>
daviddias: Do you have a minute to discuss "Getting the levelDB part of the IPFS repo done"
<daviddias>
absolutely
<daviddias>
do you want to video chat, or just chat?
<seharder>
I basically in the dark.
<daviddias>
Roger
<seharder>
Chat is OK. Could you just get me pointed in the right direction?
<daviddias>
so, for context, go-ipfs started by storing blocks in levelDB
<daviddias>
and then moved to flatfs
<daviddias>
but in that transition, it kept the levelDB datastore laying around for some things
<daviddias>
so now if you `ls` an IPFS repo, you will see a `blocks` folder and a `datastore`
<daviddias>
this datastore is a levelDB repo which contains things like DHT records and head of the pinset
<seharder>
Makes sense
<daviddias>
So, in order to make something that does the same for js-ipfs, we need to make ipfs-repo have this datastore access
<Kubuxu>
oh: DEPRECATED Travis will ship this as a feature in Q12017, currently in beta if you ask them.
<Kubuxu>
we should ask them
<kevina>
whyrusleeping (and others): BTW circleci will give open source projects OsX build for free.
<kevina>
You just have to ask "We also offer the Seed plan for OS X open-source projects. Contact us at billing@circleci.com for access. If you are building a bigger open-source project and need more resources, let us know how we can help you!"
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<daviddias>
whyrusleeping: so hawt!
<whyrusleeping>
:D
<whyrusleeping>
4k ultrasharp goodness is good for your eyes
<daviddias>
kumavis[m]: oh, why don't we have ^ on that dependency, seems like we might have missed, going to merge, update that and release
<daviddias>
thank you for catching that :)
<daviddias>
whyrusleeping: happy that I brought my other laptop, the monitor comes only with a mini DP to DP cable
<whyrusleeping>
oooh, usb c....
<kumavis[m]>
daviddias: please ping me after release
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<kumavis[m]>
once thats fixed I should be ready to CR my PR into js-ipfs-resolver for eth-block
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<kumavis[m]>
js-ipld-resolver*
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<Kubuxu>
intestingly atomic load is as fast as normal load
<Kubuxu>
but this is to be expected if you think about it
<Kubuxu>
under condition that there was no atomic write to that cache line
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<daviddias>
kumavis[m]: rad! Just released :D
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<richardlitt>
daviddias: to look at the awesome-docs stuff
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<richardlitt>
daviddias: spent the last couple hours hacking on a linter for READMEs that I can use to check stuff without manually doing it for all of our repos over the next few days