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<stevenaleach>
Noticing there are two Python IPFS client libraries on PIP, ipfs-api, & ipfsapi. Does anyone know if either is preferred or preferable?
<lgierth>
stevenaleach: i'm not sure what it's in pip, but this one: github.com/ipfs/py-ipfs-api
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<stevenaleach>
Thanks, lgierth.
<stevenaleach>
Ah: "The Python package has been renamed from ipfsApi to ipfsapi
<stevenaleach>
The PIP module has been renamed from ipfs-api to ipfsapi (please update your requirement files)"
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<vtomole>
If anyone is interested, I've started working on the IPFS OSt hat old_kanye was talking about, I'm just building the docs right now, would love some feedback :), https://github.com/vtomole/IPOS
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<gts>
hi is there a way to check the health of a file
<gts>
like statistics about replication data, availability, etc?
<achin>
not really. perhaps the best you can do right now is "ipfs dht findprovs <hash>" but this is a very low-level utility, and almost never gives you the whole story about a hash
<achin>
since it doesn't traverse any links within the hash
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<gts>
alrighty
<gts>
but it would be great to have such feature
<gts>
otherwise hard to track the health of a file
<achin>
so if the hashes are found locally, "ipfs get" can return them without a daemon running
<gts>
i started a daemon and stopped it, but the site is accessible everywhere anytime
<gts>
cool
<gts>
this is a cool project, planning to contribute
<gts>
:P
<achin>
great!
<achin>
jump on github, there's no shortage to stuff to do
<gts>
yeah i've been looking for the past weeks
<gts>
i thought understanding the protocol better before getting into it
<achin>
always a good idea
<gts>
:)
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<IANIMATEDYOU>
I'm in a pretty sad financial space this post-holiday season. I cook pizzas for a living, but have been animating (see gif above) most of my adult life. I recently made a fiverr account in a lousy effort to make some extra money in these cold January months. I can create a rotoscoped animated image (like the one posted) of any picture you give me f
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<gts>
looking to contribute to jsipfs
<gts>
how errors are handled? i mean right now everything is an exception
<gts>
and we need to identify a way to give a solution rather than throwing an exception
<gts>
can i contribute towards this?
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<MrAxilus[m]>
my understanding of how IPFS works is pretty weak, but would it be feasible to have an OS that uses IPFS as the underlying filesystem?
<r0kk3rz>
MrAxilus[m]: certainly, but perhaps not the only filesystem
<MrAxilus[m]>
why not?
<r0kk3rz>
right now IPFS is quite public, and maybe you dont want all your files to be public
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<r0kk3rz>
you'd still have to have a minimal image to boot your computer from, even if that just bootstraps ipfs and then loads the OS proper from there
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<MrAxilus[m]>
can you not make certain files inaccessible to the public? or do they necessarily have to be public?
<r0kk3rz>
you'd have to figure out what your IPFS based OS would actually do
<r0kk3rz>
and why you want IPFSOS in the first place
<MrAxilus[m]>
wouldn't the benifit be that all files local or otherwise are accessed by the same mechanism
<MrAxilus[m]>
perhaps some sort of secure encryption could be employed
<MrAxilus[m]>
so that it can actually be stored publicly
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<r0kk3rz>
theres much greater benefits than that :P
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<r0kk3rz>
but thats what the unixfs is for, to provide a normal filesystem view onto ipfs
<MrAxilus[m]>
cool
<MrAxilus[m]>
also, IPFS also stores revision history similar to git correct?
<MrAxilus[m]>
so would there be a need for version control in that case?
<MrAxilus[m]>
or would there just be a tool which stores 'tags' to check points you explicitly want to go back to
<MrAxilus[m]>
for specific projects
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<r0kk3rz>
youd need a tool, because everything is content addressed if you change a file you change its hash
<r0kk3rz>
to ipfs its basically a new file
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<vtomole>
MrAxilus[m]: Someone by the name of "old_kanye" talked about this idea last month and i took the opportunity to start a repo :https://github.com/vtomole/IPOS, I just started it a couple of days ago, and i would be happy if you joined me in designing this IPFS based OS
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<r0kk3rz>
vtomole: "Q:Why a new operating system? A: I don't know yet tbh" :D
<vtomole>
r0kk3rz: Haha i just saw the convo and i decided building an os based of ipfs would be cool: There has to be benefits, i know it!
<ajsantos>
like what?
<MrAxilus[m]>
cool, perhaps. i've had super opinionated ideas for a modern OS floating around in my head for a while now
<MrAxilus[m]>
mostly just a combination of things that already exist
<MrAxilus[m]>
underlying service reliability (minix)
<MrAxilus[m]>
i'm of the strong opinion that tiling widow managers (i3) are inherently better but they look like they come from the 90s
<vtomole>
ajsanstos: performance and reliability, with an ipfs based os, there is no difference between local file and remote files. Imagine if the general internet was out, but the workers in your office could still work together (because ipfs is peer to peer)
<MrAxilus[m]>
so we really need a modern one that actually does (le gasp) any sort of smooth transitions, effects, etc.
<MrAxilus[m]>
and looks nice out of the box
<vtomole>
MrAxilus[m]: Can you file those as issues? I don't want scroll these logs when i mull over these ideas later :)
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<r0kk3rz>
vtomole: isnt that simply just using ipfs as is?
<vtomole>
hmmm you are right...
<r0kk3rz>
sure you could write some gnome extensions to make it more integrated
<MrAxilus[m]>
also the representation of hardware as a filesystem, so you can use hardware over the network (plan9)
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<r0kk3rz>
but what im hearing is mostly just a well packaged linux os with ipfs
<MrAxilus[m]>
pretty much
<r0kk3rz>
which is still worthy
<MrAxilus[m]>
those features put together seamlessly would be my dream os
<MrAxilus[m]>
I'm just way to busy to make it anytime soon
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<vtomole>
I have the time :)
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<r0kk3rz>
vtomole: take a look at what these guys have done for inspiration http://www.solu.co/
<r0kk3rz>
thats a proprietary thing, but their cloud first operating system is interesting
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<MrAxilus[m]>
vtomole: i created an issue and just copied the convo from here
<r0kk3rz>
sure, but is that fundimentally different from a packaged linux os where all packages are signed / checksummed?
<vtomole>
ahh like nixos!
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<vtomole>
So just nixos with ipfs, i could do that in a weekend... hopefully i get more ideas for this os, cause right now there's barely anything lol
<MrAxilus[m]>
nah, there's quite a lot of ideas encompased in everything i mentioned
<MrAxilus[m]>
ipfs just handles most of the filesystem related work
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<vtomole>
MrAxilus[m]: For sure! This could potentially open up a lot of possibilities :)
<MrAxilus[m]>
also one thing that has always bothered me
<MrAxilus[m]>
terminal emulators...
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<MrAxilus[m]>
i love using the terminal, don't get me wrong
<MrAxilus[m]>
but they tend to be so obscessed with backwards compatibility that they've been the same thing for 20 years, with a few additions like a better color pallate and unicode support
<interfect[m]>
Mr Axilus: have you seen Termkit?
<r0kk3rz>
vtomole: 'barely anything' hah, well packaged things are definitely worthy
<Caterpillar>
these are my "swiss knife" commands list
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<apiarian>
aha, but no --showname. the "original" name is not stored with the pin
<apiarian>
(a bit of an existential question for a project i'm working on as we speak)
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<Caterpillar>
apiarian: I never managed to print the filename of a pinned file
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<Caterpillar>
I have some difficulties in finding documentation of ipNs
<Caterpillar>
In detail I want to study such section to understand if it can be used as a sort of dns too
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<apiarian>
Caterpillar: how do you mean?
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<kpcyrd>
Kubuxu: do you think I should file a bug for the un-clean shutdown issue I had? I need to rely on "starts nicely after unclean shutdown"
* kpcyrd
manually fixes the repos and brings the nodes back online
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<Caterpillar>
apiarian: with "using ipNs as a replacement of DNS", I mean for example: I have a ssh server with hostname: theta-1 and (fake) ip address 256.1.1.100 . So to login in it I do ssh user@256.1.1.100 .If they both do run an ipfs client, is there a way to assign the ipfs machine id to a hostname theta-1 in order to let clients to connect to it by simply doing ssh user@theta-1 ?
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<Caterpillar>
:-)
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<Caterpillar>
I will write an e-mail to the mailing list because I have to go in a few minutes