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<lgierth> Kubuxu: 16778?
<Kubuxu> see the next link
<Kubuxu> paste-fail
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<AniSky> When I use ipfs add, it gives me a multihash identifying the entire file, right?
<AniSky> Or is it identifying the object representing the file?
<Kubuxu> it won't be the same as just the hash of the file
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<AniSky> Is it possible to figure out when a file was added to IPFS?
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<achin> nope
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<voker57> examples say > first, right now, you can only publish a single entry per ipfs node. This will change fairly soon. < is there some progress towards it?
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<haad> good morning everyone and happy new year!
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<mib_kd743naq> happy new year o/
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<mib_kd743naq> so... this month I will be trying to assemble things into directories in specific way. One of the main pieces I need is mtime information
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<mib_kd743naq> I see no real examples of this in ipld spec ( aside from https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/60#issuecomment-261249715 ) and the unixfs implementation is just a sketch as in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3451
<mib_kd743naq> would it help anyone if I assemble some actual directory unixfs nodes based on what we have handwaved so far?
<mib_kd743naq> I can't usefully contribute to the go odebase I am afraid, too unfamiliar with the language :/
<mib_kd743naq> jbenet: ^^ ?
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<vtomole> What is congress? I mean you are not referring to the government,right?
<mib_kd743naq> vtomole: or more generally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress
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<Kubuxu> mib_kd743naq: we are looking into improving the current unixfs format
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<Kubuxu> probably by defining IPLD-CBOR format
<Kubuxu> for unixfs
<mib_kd743naq> Kubuxu: yes, I was aware of this previously, and there is plenty of indication of this in the repo ( both issues and notes )
<Kubuxu> unfortunately,AFAIK, we don't have any solid plans for it right now
<mib_kd743naq> Kubuxu: I am essentially asking: "I have a need to organize files into dirs (essentially represent unpacked tars): at this stage can I help in any way other than writing golang?"
<Kubuxu> pushing stuff in issue tracker, planning things out, starting discussions might be the most helpful right now
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<mib_kd743naq> Kubuxu: hm hm hm ... is there a specific call that deals with this aspect of planning? perhaps I could join today and get this pushed a bit on a higher-bandwidth link
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<Kubuxu> You could try joining all-hands and talking about it there
<mib_kd743naq> I will try to do so if time permits
<Kubuxu> but I don't know how many people will be attending as a lot of as are traveling this week
<mib_kd743naq> right
<mib_kd743naq> I am not trying to be a pest, it's just this particular issue ( "the FS of IPFS" ) seems stuck for over a year, and... I'd like to help get it moving somehow ;)
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<gts> Hey guys, just now i tried ipfs and it seems to be cool.. Cheers
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<daviddias> Good morning planet, looking forward to this new turn around the sun :)
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<onla> if I want to have a ssh or ssh-like access to my parents linux mint pc, can ipfs help, or hmm.. their pc is on 4g mobile internet and their IP changes a lot and I would need to port forward ssh port to this particular pc in that network too etc, sounds very hassle, so was wondering
<kpcyrd> onla: no, ipfs does something completely different
<kpcyrd> onla: cjdns might help
<onla> ok thanks
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<kpcyrd> onla: I'm using cjdns for similar situations myself. If you're looking for something less experimental, you can configure a tor hidden service and use it to access their sshd, but you have to know what you're doing or other people might get into their laptop
<kpcyrd> s/laptop/pc
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<onla> using cjdns is not adding much bloat, like using teamviewer for accessing remote pc's command-line would? instead of just ssh
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<Kubuxu> onla: I would just use ssh with reverse port forwarding
<Kubuxu> so your parents PC would ssh into your server and reverse forward some of the server port to the sshd port on the paretn's PC
<Kubuxu> or other nice option is WireGuard which is minimal VPN solution
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<hannes3> so i would like to start building a big free music archive, one netlabel per directory. can i shove it all into one hash and update it as i collect? can i allow others to update subdirectories?
<hannes3> if not, what would be a good way to structure this?
<hannes3> one hash per release i guess, but how to organise the structure then
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<r0kk3rz> hannes3: what do you want the front end to look like?
<hannes3> as plain file-tree as possible
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<Boomerang> hannes3 just keep the top level hash pointed to by ipns and then you can update it whenever you want
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<mib_kd743naq_> hm... trying to figure out how to work ipns
<mib_kd743naq_> ~$ ipfs name publish QmXStmqqnaBrfP94XjDy6Y39ygYGMEu7wQY1zxACpSZy45
<mib_kd743naq_> Error: failed to find any peer in table
<mib_kd743naq_> ^^ what does this mean...?
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<mib_kd743naq_> hmmm I think it is just a really hostile network or something...
<mib_kd743naq_> if `ipfs swarm peers` is empty - this effectively means I am completely disconnected, right?
<mib_kd743naq_> .oO( having a simple troubleshooting readme/faq would be really helpful... )
<onla> Kubuxu: hmm ye. I think I might go with that reverse port forwarding
<graffen> mib_kd743naq_: is the ipfs daemon running?
<mib_kd743naq_> yes it is
<mib_kd743naq_> I think this particular network allows only 80/443 and absolutely nothing else
<mib_kd743naq_> is there a way to "jump start" a daemon in such an environment at all?
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<mib_kd743naq_> right... so my `ipfs bootstrap` lists only peers with 4001
<mib_kd743naq_> I suppose if I add a .../tcp/443/ipfs... things would work
<mib_kd743naq_> of course this means that a 443-listening node must exist...
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<mib_kd743naq_> not sure how/who runs the ipfs.io infrastructure, but that's likely the right place to add these
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<mib_kd743naq_> hm hm hm ... so am I understanding correctly that each keypair ( i.e. a single node ) can publish exactly one ipns pointer?
<mib_kd743naq_> can I "provide" multiple ipns root pointers from a single node in any way...?
<mib_kd743naq_> Kubuxu: ^^
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<Kubuxu> mib_kd743naq_: new feature, keystore allows you to do that
<mib_kd743naq_> Kubuxu: but does it work with the web-side of things? i.e. ipfs.io/ipns/<thing that points to an ipfs node here> ?
<mguentner> Can the gateway be limited to resources that are already present on the system running the gateway (i.e. that have been pinned, added before)?
<Kubuxu> mguentner: yes
<Kubuxu> mguentner: not currently, but this is interesting feature
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<Kubuxu> might be hard to do with current infra, IDK, gateway rewrite is incoming either way, I will for sure mention this when it is being done
<mib_kd743naq_> Kubuxu: according to https://github.com/ipfs/specs/tree/master/keystore#other-interface-changes it *should* so I will play with that... thanks
<mguentner> Kubuxu: great, currently I have a nginx reverse proxy setup that whitelists all /ipfs/ locations
<Kubuxu> mguentner: you could try running the daemon in offline mode
<Kubuxu> then it will not connect to the rest of the network
<Kubuxu> so it won't fetch new stuff
<mguentner> but it won't add new stuff either
<Kubuxu> only issue is that to fetch new stuff you would have to restart the daemon in online mode, fetch and restart again
<Kubuxu> yeah, stuff added to this daemon won't be visible to the rest of daemon
<Kubuxu> rest of network
<mguentner> okay...I will just figure out a neat way to compile that location filter for nginx in the mean time
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<cblgh> anywhere i can see ipfs milestones for 2017?
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<r0kk3rz> 1. take over the world
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<mguentner> IPLD: If one wants to get all links that point to an object, some kind of indexer is needed, right?
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<Mateon1> sprint-helper3: next
<sprint-helper3> The next event is "All Hands Call", in an hour.
<Mateon1> Wish it gave a link to the issues
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<josselin> hi all
<josselin> haad is here ?
<victorbjelkholm> usually, yeah, not sure about right now
<lgierth> PSA: the weekly sprint calls start in 30 minutes, as it's the end of the Q4 please take a look at a few retrospective questions: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/303#issuecomment-269958510
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<victorbjelkholm> lgierth, thanks!
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<sprint-helper3> The next event "All Hands Call" is in 15 minutes.
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<Caterpillar> is it normal that ipfs in idle produces a constant [0,5 - 1] Mbit/s download traffic?
<Mateon1> Not really, for me it's less than 10kB/s at all times
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: seems that multiplex is broken on something
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<haad> josselin: am here
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<lgierth> anybody else joining?
<haad> oh
<haad> yeah
<ansuz> hi lgierth
<ansuz> no I'm busy :(
<Kubuxu> hmm
<Kubuxu> did sprint-helper broke?
<Kubuxu> sprint-helper3: annonce
<sprint-helper3> Error: Unrecognized command!
<sprint-helper3> Correct usage: sprint-helper: announce <args> | next | now | tomorrow | help
<Kubuxu> sprint-helper3: announce now
<sprint-helper3> Correct usage: sprint-helper: announce <topic name> <sprint issue> <notes> <zoom> <stream url or message>
<sprint-helper3> Error: Not enough arguments!
<Kubuxu> sprint-helper3: now
<sprint-helper3> The current event is "All Hands Call", which started 5 minutes ago and ends in an hour.
<sprint-helper3> ========================= IPFS Sprint: IPFS-All-hands =========================
<sprint-helper3> Join Call: https://zoom.us/j/3339991818
<sprint-helper3> Sprint Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/303
<sprint-helper3> Topic: IPFS-All-hands
<sprint-helper3> Watch Stream: https://beam.pro/IPFS
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<Kubuxu> lgierth: sorry, I am joining, zoom broke with system upgrade
<Kubuxu> zoom package is compressing itself ....
<lgierth> :)
<lgierth> damn i forgot notetaker & moderator for next week
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<Kubuxu> lgierth: ready?
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<sprint-helper3> ========================= IPFS Sprint: IPFS-go-ipfs =========================
<sprint-helper3> Watch Stream: https://beam.pro/IPFS
<sprint-helper3> Join Call: https://zoom.us/j/3339991818
<sprint-helper3> Sprint Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/303
<sprint-helper3> Topic: IPFS-go-ipfs
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<Kubuxu> no stream today, sorry
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<lgierth> if you wanted to watch the stream, just hop on the zoom call
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<lgierth> is the apps on ipfs call happening?
<lgierth> cc haad
<haad> here
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<sprint-helper3> Sprint Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/303
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<sprint-helper3> Sprint Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/303
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<victorbjelkholm> dignifiedquire, welcome home!
<dignifiedquire> :)
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<dignifiedquire> thank you victorbjelkholm, I was home all the time, just had the first chess game with my son which took longer than expected =)
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: I did work a bit in the holidays on the dht https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-kad-routing/tree/go-interop
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: oh, nice! Need to take a look, but please develop in a https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-dht repo
<daviddias> kad-routing will be omething just Peer Routing
<dignifiedquire> okay :) i don't mind about the name, also https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-record/pull/24#issuecomment-270011744
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: also I don't have access to that repo,
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<daviddias> It wasn't created yet :)
<dignifiedquire> :D
<dignifiedquire> that explains it
<daviddias> feel free to go ahead and create
<daviddias> go-libp2p-record is not full IPRS
<daviddias> because it is not IPLD, not it has the validity schedume
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<dignifiedquire> created it
<dignifiedquire> so it's something inbetween
<dignifiedquire> ?
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<dignifiedquire> I plan spending my train ride writing more dht tomorrow :)
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<dignifiedquire> 6h of undisturbed coding
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<victorbjelkholm> dignifiedquire, going with train? From where to where? Taking train from Hamburg to Berlin tomorrow as well
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: ok, so to clarify
<dignifiedquire> victorbjelkholm: Freiburg - Berlin
<daviddias> I'm going to rename js-libp2p-record js-iprs-record as it is the name of the 'future' thing
<daviddias> so that you can have js-libp2p-record
<daviddias> free for the implementation that implements the go-dht
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<victorbjelkholm> dignifiedquire, ah, that probably doesn't pass through Hamburg
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<dignifiedquire> victorbjelkholm: nope not really
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: sounds good, because then the go and js names match up
<victorbjelkholm> and the libp2p website thanks you for that consistency! :)
<victorbjelkholm> should do the same with all the libp2p-libs
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: could you PR your record commits to https://github.com/libp2p/js-libp2p-record ? sorry about the confusion, I know that the separation of Peer Routing and Content Routing is still not the most clear
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: sure thing
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<kevina> hi all, I'm available if anyone needs me for anything...
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<kumavis[m]1> Tim Sweeny talking about IPFS
<lgierth> kumavis[m]1: with handwritten notes :)
<lgierth> daviddias: anthing against calling it js-libp2p-kad-dht? no bikeshedding intended
<kumavis[m]1> kicking myself for missing the meetings today
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<ansuz> lgierth: the most successful protocols are named after their authors
<ansuz> everyone knows that
<ansuz> ddjs-libp2p-kad-dht
<ansuz> (the dd is for daviddias)
<lgierth> good lurkers don't talk
<ansuz> who said I was good at anything
<lgierth> :-*
<ansuz> or that I was a lurker
<ansuz> just busy
<lgierth> i just picked up this new computer today. loudest computer i've ever had
<kumavis[m]1> according to https://github.com/multiformats/multicodec/blob/master/table.csv theres no code for protobuf or cbor
<lgierth> kumavis[m]1: dag-pb and dag-cbor
<kumavis[m]1> right ok
<lgierth> it's not just cbor or protobuf encoding, there's a bit of wrapping too iirc
<kumavis[m]1> there is a non-dag pb and cbor on there tho
<kumavis[m]1> i see
<lgierth> that's why it's its own thing
<kumavis[m]1> should prolly merge these PRs https://github.com/multiformats/multicodec/pulls
<kumavis[m]1> or are we waiting for the friday meeting?
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<lgierth> yeah let's go and merge
<lgierth> my first encounter with github'
<lgierth> s conflict editor
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<mildred__> hello there
<ansuz> github has a conflict editor now?
<ansuz> wow
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<kumavis[m]1> yep! new
<lgierth> hey mildred__
<lgierth> long time no see :)
<ansuz> hi mildred
<ansuz> and gn
<ansuz> gotta visit the prefecture in the morning
<mildred__> yes, I was a little absent from IPFS the last months
<kumavis[m]1> lgierth ( i dont have merge access )
<mildred__> I have many things to do :)
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<mildred> if anyone is is working on ipfs/go-cid, libp2p/go-libp2p-routing or working on go-ipfs on the routing package, I would like some comments on issues I filed
<lgierth> sorry if it'll take a few days, everyone's travelling to berlin and it's gonna be a week full of meetings, and with not much computering
<kumavis[m]1> jbenet was looking for the code of the 'identity hash fn'
<kumavis[m]1> doesnt seem to be one
<kumavis[m]1> was this just an idea or is there indeed intent to implement?
<lgierth> there's an issue about it, either in multihash or go-multihash
<mildred> if people working on the go-ipfs routing package can comment on https://github.com/ipfs/go-cid/issues/15
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<lgierth> kumavis[m]1: i'm making a team for write access to the multiformats repos -- but i'm not going through all repos now, need permissions tooling anyhow :)
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<kumavis[m]1> added a use case
<kumavis[m]1> for identity hashfn
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<kumavis[m]1> oh, we have a few places where we are using leveldb with the key being the hash and the value being the content of an eth object
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<kumavis[m]1> so i made an "ipld-down" levelDown backend that you can instantiate with a ipld format name and a blockService, and it will read/write via that blockService
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<lgierth> someone think they're smart looking for private keys in git repos: https://github.com/dxa4481/truffleHog
<lgierth> wait until they find the ipfs and p2p corners of github
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<kumavis[m]1> heh
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<tabrath> daviddias: are you available? i've requested access for libraries.io, so I can easier manage my dependencies in the cs-projects, and also display a dependency status badge in the readme, would you consider accepting?
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<lgierth> tabrath: i got the request email too, what does that access mean?
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<tabrath> it just monitors the repositories for dependencies out of date, and notifies me when new versions are available
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<tabrath> it works somewhat like david-dm.org i guess
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