lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: Latest release: go-ipfs 0.4.4 at https://dist.ipfs.io, have fun! | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 | Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<vtomole> What could be the reason that this makeilfe is hanging? Is this .box file pinned somewhere?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ipfs/container-demos/master/001-download-vm/Makefile
<lgierth> vtomole: not sure it's pinned anywhere -- see if you can find a provider with `ipfs dht findprovs`
<vtomole> whoa! Didn't actually expect a response on a Friday night :)
<lgierth> irc never sleeps
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<lgierth> (or parties)
<vtomole> haha
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<vtomole_> I got quite a list actually "Qmbyba4hiS62AuMpPuey1c3c3tehksVpDcp4GqE16PrAcm QmSoLueR4xBeUbY9WZ9xGUUxunbKWcrNFTDAadQJmocnWm Qme63idhHJ2awgkdG952iddw5Ta9nrfQB3Bpn83V1Bqgvv QmaqWpoHjhYxgU8cEX2rAkuj9BWt9EgzVFHtGMPzMUXkyd QmWeV29uchLuN8SKJuCjWs8j4acSaPEKvXhhYmVn1dCMqy QmSoLnSGccFuZQJzRadHn95W2CrSFmZuTdDWP8HXaHca9z QmcP8J9x9HChPDrcm8tx2FEAPxaJ8uCtCTMvexwjuSgHyj QmcbhuvPtpL4TKDNKYPdxeqGKA54TQt4eJmCMe8U3bzv2M QmTrLmZNKpAxdAxc4C5fAQgDWWin5R7g
<lgierth> ah it's even pinned on the ipfs.io gateways (the ones starting in QmSoL)
<lgierth> oops let me restart ipfs on one of them
<lgierth> vtomole_: ok try
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<vtomole> Still a pause, reminds of the kind of pause i get when i try to access something i added in the gateway for the first time.
<vtomole_> vtomole@vtomole:~/container-demos/001-download-vm$ make ipfs get QmW9on9UeKCVDb5dsTEZJQwQoH53gXUtVfWvSBhf2Thmyq/vms/opscode_ubuntu-14.04_chef-provisionerless.box
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<lgierth> mh no it doesn't appear to pinned on the QmSoL nodes
<lgierth> they must have had it at some point in the past two years, and someone's still holding provider records for that
<lgierth> sorry it's gone -- if you can somehow recreate it, file a PR with the new hash and i'll make sure it gets pinned
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<vtomole_> For sure, i'm guessing nobody has run that script in a while since an issue wasn't filed.
<lgierth> yeah and last substantial update march 2015 :)
<lgierth> that's around the time the alpha video was made
<vtomole_> Oh no! if it's gone.... isn't that what we want to avoid?
<lgierth> yep :)
<lgierth> maybe you can find a different version of the file (with a different hash)
<vtomole_> How did it disappear if findprovs showed some addresses?
<lgierth> anyhow, everybody pays better attention to pinning now. back then there was a textfile somewhere with "stuff to seed" and things got lost :)
<lgierth> vtomole_: some nodes are apparantly still serving 2-year old provider records. probably old nodes
<lgierth> open an issue and ping the committers of that repo, maybe they can reproduce it
<lgierth> (it = the file)
<vtomole_> I'm trying to upload my own iso by following the README, i can't pin "vtomole@vtomole:~$ ipfs pin -r QmQNVTTuRqTkQUXSgdKLSGrokcpCJKruVAAMWvRAV3oFbE/sio Error: Unrecognized option 'r'"
<vtomole_> Is the pinning command different now than 2 years ago?
<lgierth> it's pin add
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<vtomole_> Whats the difference between ipfs pin add and ipfs add?
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<ianopolous> vtomole_: if you add a file the file can be retrieved from the returned multihash, but if you call a gc without pinning it, it will be deleted. If you pin it then it will persist locally through a gc
<ianopolous> (currently you have to add it, and then pin the resulting multihash)
<lgierth> add implies pin unless you --pin=false
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<ianopolous> lgierth: my understanding is that add doesn't also pin: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3544 Unless that only applies to the smaller block and object commands?
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<vtomole_> hmm that's weird then cause "ipfs pin add QmTrLmZNKpAxdAxc4C5fAQgDWWin5R7gJ1MAQDQ6RjME9P/iso" is hanging, (the hash is my node id btw)
<ianopolous> lgierth: my bad, you're right. I just tested. It's only the smaller commands that don't also pin
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<ianopolous> vtomole_: correction: "ipfs add $file" will also pin the resulting multihash, so by default anything you "ipfs add" will survive a gc
<vtomole_> Just curious. How much space is the gateway taking?
<vtomole_> Oh wait nvm the gateway just fetches the files, right?
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<cblgh> question: is there any resource that lists projects that make use of ipfs?
<alterego> dignifiedquire: got another libp2p-crypto question :)
<alterego> dignifiedquire: I want to run in a WebWorker, but WebWorkers don't have the WebCrypto API exposed in them (something that will hopefully be fixed someday). Is there a way I can get libp2p-crypto to use another crypto method?
<alterego> dignifiedquire: nevermind, it is exposed, but under "self" instead of "window" ;)
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<alterego> Two modifications required to get it to work. One in js-libp2p-crypto and one in webcrypto-shim :)
<alterego> IPFS in a WebWorker, works :)
<cblgh> haad: do you bundle & run the ipfs daemon with orbit as part of the electron package?
<dignifiedquire> alterego: great to hear! I wanted to make that happen for some time but never found the time to do it
<victorbjelkholm_> alterego, yay, that's cool stuff!
<alterego> Gonna see if I can get it to work in a Shared WebWorker now
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<alterego> Ah, well, id() works, object.get breaks, probably same issue.
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<Mateon1> Wow, we suddenly started getting a bunch of traffic on Discourse
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<alterego> dignifiedquire: some patches for getting ipfs-api running in WebWorker
<dignifiedquire> thank you :)
<alterego> dignifiedquire: I haven't tested the entire IPFS api, but so far so good.
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<alterego> Even works in a SharedWorker :D
<alterego> So I have multiple tabs open, all accessing the same IPFS API :D
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<dignifiedquire> awesome 👏
<dignifiedquire> alterego: now put it into a service worker and intercept gateway requests :)
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<alterego> Heh, good idea.
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<jeremias_> Hi
<jeremias_> I managed to run a ipfs peer on my raspberry pi 2
<jeremias_> Now I would like to open my ipns site on Safari on my Mac via pi
<jeremias_> What to do to acces my pi node external?
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<alterego> dignifiedquire: "global" is a local variable, it is the function paramter. It is either window or self, depending on what the caller provides.
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<knupe> Is it correct that I can't run "ipfs add barf" and "ipfs add blup" concurrently?
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<dignifiedquire> ups sorry alterego didn't read carefullly enough
<alterego> ;)
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<kpcyrd> so, I built this the last few days: https://ipfs.ink/
<kpcyrd> feedback (and bug reports) very welcome :)
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<alterego> kpcyrd: what's on the serverside?
<alterego> kpcyrd: are you using an intermediary file. Then ipfs adding it? Or using the go-ipfs http api directly? :)
<kpcyrd> alterego: I pipe into `ipfs add -q`, but I should probably use the http api in a future version
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<alterego> Simple and effective.
<Kubuxu> kpcyrd: that is cool
<kpcyrd> thanks :)
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<zPlus> hi, is there any node or organization where people can upload/submit (free/libre) files, and the files are stored/preserved and made available via ipfs?
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<alterego> zPlus: problem with that is who pays for it.
<alterego> zPlus: there are one if not a few pinning services. But you must share the file yourself initially.
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<zPlus> alterego: where can I find those services?
<zPlus> alterego: anyway, if somebody promoted a pinning service like this as "a huge, distributed, repository for the commons"... people maybe would donate to support it? Or not?
<alterego> zPlus: I expect the plan is to accept crypto
<alterego> zPlus: filecoin I believe is an endeavour for this too.
<zPlus> "the plan"?
<alterego> Well, the plan of one of the pinning services I heard about.
<zPlus> ah, you mean they offer pinning in exchange of cryptobucks
<alterego> Currently I believe it's free, but I think that is the intention.
<jeremias_> I managed to run a ipfs peer on my raspberry pi 2
<jeremias_> Hi
<jeremias_> Now I would like to open my ipns site on Safari on my Mac via pi
<jeremias_> What to do to acces my pi node external?
<zPlus> I actually think that if a pinning service is available to distribute the commons, people will donate to keep it up... but, I don't have a server to start anything like this... I wonder if anybody here has some spare space and would be interested to start a service like that?
<alterego> jeremias_: You want to access files shared by your Pi? Or you want to access the whole IPFS network through your Pi from your Mac?
<mguentner> zPlus: there is https://github.com/ipfs/archives/ - these seems to be some kind of authority that collects hashes, create an issue and describe why people should host your stuff
<jeremias_> I want to access the whole IPFS network via Pi i.e. the webui
<alterego> jeremias_: Ah, then you need to configure ipfs to bind to the ethernet port's IP address.
<jeremias_> sounds good, how to?
<jeremias_> change something in config file?
<alterego> jeremias_: $ ipfs config Addresses.Gateway /ip4/0.0.0.0/8080
<alterego> jeremias_: that will the pi bind to all addresses on the pi
<alterego> Then from your Mac: http://IP_ADDRESS_OF_PI:8080/ipfs/<SOME_HASH>
<zPlus> mguentner: thanks for the link
<jeremias_> perfect thank you!!
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<jeremias_> alterego: got this error on pi: Error: serveHTTPGateway: invalid gateway address: "/ip4/0.0.0.0/8080" (err: no protocol with name 8080)
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<Mateon1> jeremias_: /ip4/0.0.0.0/tcp/8080
<jeremias_> Mateon1: that works, thx!!
<Mateon1> No problem
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<alterego> jeremias_: my mistake, '/ip4/0.0.0.0/tcp/8080'
<alterego> Oh, too late :D
<jeremias_> got it thx!
<jeremias_> :)
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<Falconix> hmms what happend there! allot of ping time outs for various countries and I can see the same on other networks.
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<lgierth> it's amazing how painless monitoring is nowadays with prometheus and especially grafana
* lgierth originally coming from a world of collectd, ganglia, graphite, munin, nagios
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