lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: Week 3+4 sprints: 1) Browser accesses go-ipfs https://git.io/vMKVu 2) 300 TB challenge https://git.io/vMKVr | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<whyrusleeping> kevina: i have a small amount of time, whatsup?
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: so in #3628 are you really saying that every query for the blockstore also queries the leveldb?
<whyrusleeping> kevina: yeah, when doing 'blockstore.AllKeysChan()' it queries both flatfs and leveldb
<kevina> whyrusleeping: so its only the Query() and not the Get()?
<whyrusleeping> well, all the operations have some inefficiency because of that same issue
<whyrusleeping> 'Get' checks both datastores
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<kevina> specially, as in where in the code?
<whyrusleeping> wait, no, it checks the prefix for gets
<kevina> It has been a while since I worked with that code, and I am confused how the namespace datastore is used
* whyrusleeping thinks for a second
<whyrusleeping> in the namespace datastore, we just query the child
<whyrusleeping> and then filter results coming out
<kevina> I thought it was the mount datastore?
<whyrusleeping> the problem is with the namespace datastore not being able to understand the mount datastore
<whyrusleeping> if the namepace datastore has a namespace of /blocks
<whyrusleeping> and its wrapping a mount datastore that has a /blocks mount
<whyrusleeping> then we should be able to short circuit that, no?
<whyrusleeping> the biggest issue is querying a namespace datastore querying
<kevina> maybe
<whyrusleeping> whoops, english
<kvda> does ipfs.io accept api connections?
<kevina> okay I will try to investigate
<kvda> ie can you use py-ipfs-api to connect to it
<whyrusleeping> kevina: yeah... i'm still not 100% sure
<kevina> it has been two months since I last worked with the code
<whyrusleeping> but i was noticing some weird stuff when querying on leveldb and blockstore stuff
<whyrusleeping> kvda: theres a readonly api
<kvda> ah ok i need write, thanks whyrusleeping
<kevina> whyrusleeping: so are you _sure_ that both datastores are being queried?
<whyrusleeping> kevina: not 100% sure no
<kevina> so what where you noticing than?
<kevina> I know there is a lot of unnecessary path rewriting, but I worked to optimize that, I didn't notice the behavior you describe of querying both datastores
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: relevant issue https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3376
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<whyrusleeping> hrm... then idk what i was having trouble with...
<kevina> "idk" = i don't know?
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<whyrusleeping> correct
<kevina> whyrusleeping: ok it sounds like there is nothing for me to do on this, should we close this bug, or wait until you figure out what the real problem is you where seeing?
<whyrusleeping> Yeah, we can close it. Though the key mangling back and forth is annoying, its not a perf issue at this point
<whyrusleeping> sorry about that
<kevina> no problem
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<kevina> I'm just glad I don't have to mess with go-datastore again, setting things up the last time was a major PITA :(
<whyrusleeping> yeah... i need to figure out how to make gx workspaces a little easier
<whyrusleeping> in the simple case you just `gx-go rewrite --undo PACKAGEYOUWANTTOWORKON`
<kevina> this wasn't a simple case
<kevina> to many things depended on go-datastore from go-ipfs that I had to do some ugly hacks
<kevina> the details of which I forget :)
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<whyrusleeping> yeah...
<whyrusleeping> what i'm thinking of doing as a better solution
<whyrusleeping> is to do `gx install --local`
<whyrusleeping> and then symlink the repo you want to work on into place under ./vendor
<whyrusleeping> it *should* work as expected
<kevina> whyrusleeping: I am not 100% following, but if you can spell out the details in a issue I might be able to help implement it...
<whyrusleeping> yeah, i'm still not sure on the UX yet
<whyrusleeping> i'll see about making an issue about it
<kevina> okay
<pjz> whyrusleeping: how goes 0.4.5 ?
<whyrusleeping> going pretty well, got the migrations finished
<whyrusleeping> theres a release of them up on dists
<whyrusleeping> going to cut an rc1 tomorrow i think
<whyrusleeping> then let that simmer for a few days
<kevina> whyrusleeping: have you looked at https://github.com/ipfs/fs-repo-migrations/issues/50 (Recovery Notes)?
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<kvda> is there any possibility of an asyncio based py-ipfs-api?
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<cretz[m]> newb dev question/thought...I was wanting to use go libp2p's kad dht impl to find peers for a possible tor onion-like routing system
<cretz[m]> but it seems get closest peers has a limited peer set size and I see no way, externally, to clear out the peerset, would the ability to clear a peer set or provide a filter to lookups be welcome?
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<cretz[m]> (I need filtering to abide by some circuit path selection constraints, ala no peers in same /16's, etc)
<lgierth> yes that sounds useful
<lgierth> there's already an address filtering mechanism somewhere else in the code that you can reuse
<cretz[m]> I saw it internally in the query
<lgierth> e.g. /ip4/172.16.0.0/ipcidr/16
<lgierth> it sounds useful to somehow wrap that around the peerstore
<cretz[m]> true since that comes from the host object anyways
<lgierth> also the openbazaar people have been doing a lot of work with libp2p and tor/onion
<lgierth> (they built a libp2p onion transport)
<cretz[m]> link?
<cretz[m]> I will look that up
<lgierth> eeh github/openbazaar/go-onion-transport i think
<lgierth> and this design doc which is just wrote might be interesting to you too: https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p-relay/blob/feat/prespec/README.md
<cretz[m]> word, my ideas may differ and be a bit too off-the-reservation for me to leverage too much, heh
<cretz[m]> indeed, will read
<lgierth> (probably not directly useful, but interesting)
<lgierth> it's just one of the first steps towards a real overlay network
<cretz[m]> I think unfortunately it's not easy to backwards-compatibly provide filtering in PeerSet unless I just add a Clear() method or something
<cretz[m]> NewFilteredPeerSet(ps PeerSet) PeerSet is not as clear
<lgierth> best to open an issue to discuss, i'm heading home to bed and here on irc things something just scroll away :)
<lgierth> s/something/sometimes/
<cretz[m]> gotcha
<lgierth> cool thanks :)
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<SchrodingersScat> why are some of these MTG cards only half? http://localhost:8080/ipfs/QmRfnZJSGqyjURbET4f1mu4WDGrTndJYXPfiYdPj8mPSdA
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<dignifiedquire> good morning
<whyrusleeping> is it though?
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<dignifiedquire> for some
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<substack> working on displaying peermaps tiles https://substack.neocities.org/progress/tilemesh/0.html
<substack> QmNbJeviuVwN1UMHmhY8PSojUewqPVNQM62WbgMaEMAwgU
<kvda> nice
<kvda> are you still using virtual-dom substack ?
<kvda> just playing with choo
<kvda> it doesn't seem as elegant as mercury/vdom
<substack> kvda: most of my stuff lately uses yo-yo
<substack> which uses hyperx and morphdom
<kvda> ah yup, choo is based on that
<substack> yes, a lot of stuff happened after I whipped up hyperx
<substack> nice to see
<kvda> :)
<substack> I think choo seems like a good fit for much more fully-featured, traditional webapps with many people who need to coordinate on architecture
<substack> I just don't often work on such projects, so I haven't had as much of a chance to evaluate it fully
<kvda> yup very true
<kvda> that's what it is, but it's still pretty tiny
<kvda> so how is neocities still around, no-ads etc, are they doing the whole get users -> vc money -> bail thing
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<substack> no, it's incorporated as an oregon public benefit llc
<substack> freemium, you can pay for a supporter plan and get custom domains, way more space
<substack> it also backs up to ipfs automatically and kyledrake is very responsive to issues
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<kvda> oh wow
<substack> in this very room in fact
<kvda> did you ever use dump.fm?
<substack> never heard of it
<kvda> ah shame, it just went down 2 days ago
<kvda> it's been around for about 6-7 years
<kvda> it was like a chat + image compisition
<kvda> i started on a clone using ipfs
<kvda> i started getting http://121.44.218.94:9001/
<kvda> this morning
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<kvda> it was similar to get(neo)cities but around images/netart
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<kpcyrd> is somebody in touch with the folks from https://www.climatemirror.org/ ? ipfs is perfect for this
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<lgierth> yes flyingzumwalt is in touch as part of https://git.io/vMKVu
<SchrodingersScat> is there a file I can pin to save the climate?
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<richardlitt> SchrodingersScat: Hypothetically, there may be a hash that would save everything. We're still working on making the right algorithms to find that hash.
<SchrodingersScat> 42
<richardlitt> SchrodingersScat: We think it's probably a multihash. Unfortunately, we don't know the multicode.
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<daviddias> nicolagreco: are you around?
<nicolagreco> @daviddias: just got the Internet
<daviddias> perfect, see you in 23 minutes :)
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<whyrusleeping> nicolagreco: how can you be real if my eyes arent real
<nicolagreco> I am trying to cope with this reality right now
<nicolagreco> Today, Privacy died in the USA
<lgierth> lol
<__uguu__> today?
<__uguu__> it's been like that for over a decade at least
<nicolagreco> __uguu__: it wasn't that "official"
<__uguu__> level of "official" is irrelevant
<__uguu__> but... blah blah blah offtopic
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<SchrodingersScat> so would a setup be having an rpi ipfs box with an external drive for .ipfs, then point the firefox/chrome addons to point to that local machine for ipfs access?
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<__uguu__> would an rpi have enough juice to handle that?
<SchrodingersScat> what resource are you worried about?
<__uguu__> cputime memory and disk io
<SchrodingersScat> would it use more than a gig of memory?
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<whyrusleeping> Yeah, it does end up using more than a gig of ram right now
<whyrusleeping> working on bringing that down
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<SchrodingersScat> surprising, i didn't notice it using much
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<kpcyrd> SchrodingersScat: ensure you have swap configured on low memory systems
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<SchrodingersScat> ZRAM
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<kpcyrd> whyrusleeping: do we know what is eating all the memory?
<kpcyrd> that'd be interesting
<whyrusleeping> mostly yamux
<kpcyrd> interesting
<whyrusleeping> thats why i've added multiplex as an experimental feature in this next release
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<richardlitt> sprint-helper: announce test 001 https://ipfs.io https://ipfs.io Ignore
<sprint-helper> Watch Stream: Ignore
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<sprint-helper> Join Call: https://ipfs.io
<sprint-helper> Notes: https://ipfs.io
<sprint-helper> Topic: test
<sprint-helper> Sprint Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/001
<sprint-helper> ========================= IPFS Sprint: test =========================
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<richardlitt> sprint-helper: botsnack
<sprint-helper> om nom nom
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: we call it mplex right?
<lgierth> just making sure i got the memo right
<whyrusleeping> correct
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<lgierth> :)
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<whyrusleeping> I think for 0.4.6 i'm going to make the enable mplex flag default to true
<whyrusleeping> and then assuming that goes well, 0.4.7 may see mplex as the default
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<kumavis> if i have a file, whats the best way to get the cid/multihash for it (as unix-fs) without pinning/adding it
<kevina> whyrusleeping: so for https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3632 you don't think we should fix initDefaultDatastore?
<whyrusleeping> kumavis: ipfs add --only-hash file
<kumavis> cool
<whyrusleeping> kevina: is something actually wrong with initDefaultDatastore?
<kumavis> whyrusleeping does http-api support this by chance?
<whyrusleeping> kevina: it seems like the bug is in the Writeable function not cleaning up after itself
<whyrusleeping> kumavis: yeap, all cli flags match the http api
<kumavis> cool
<whyrusleeping> (though there are a couple exceptions where args are clientside, such as ipfs get)
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: writable already should remove expect if the os.Create fails
<kevina> initDefaultDatastore could just call flatfs.Create instead of creating an empty directory
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<whyrusleeping> right, it could, but why is that file lingering around then?
<whyrusleeping> that bit doesnt make sense to me
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<whyrusleeping> i do agree we can fix this by not calling writeable, but i want to try and figure out the issue with writeable as well
<kevina> I don't know it should not be. I can fix it so that os.Remove(f.Name()) is always calls delete (even if os.Create fails) but that is all I can do
<whyrusleeping> kumavis: wow, the fact that the go vendor stuff is 'vendor/packagename' and not 'vendor/src/packagename' is REALLY annoying...
<whyrusleeping> oop
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: not kumavis
<Kubuxu> why?
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<whyrusleeping> because to install go-ipfs into a vendor directory, i cant set GOPATH=`pwd`/vendor
<whyrusleeping> that puts it in vendor/src
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<kresbach_> ahh it's a wonderful day
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<dansup> mozilla mentioned ipfs :)
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<lgierth> oh that's even my tweet
<lgierth> <3
<lgierth> moz://a
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<lgierth> kpcyrd: that's you too ^ iirc :)
<dansup> nice :D