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<realisation>
hello!
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<AniSky>
Is there a channel for FileCoin discussion?
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<vtomole>
Anisky FileCoin is not being developed at the moment
<AniSky>
Is there any reason for that, or is it just coincidental?
<AniSky>
vtomole I'm trying to figure out why it's not actively under development, or if it is behind closed doors.
<vtomole>
AniSky:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU-n_m-snxQ&t=2255s, It's going to be built on etherum, i think, somebdy correct me if i'm wrong @jbenet
<vtomole>
AniSky: I think people are just really busy with building the IPFS infrastructure.
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<pjz>
Filecoin is still a ways down the pipe
<pjz>
need some more fundamental infrastructure working first
<vtomole>
pjz: If you were to make a guess, would it be by the end of this year?
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<pjz>
vtomole: I'd guess not, but I could be wrong
<pjz>
vtomole: too many factors, really
<pjz>
vtomole: you need remote storage?
<vtomole>
remote storage? ipfs doesn't have that already?
<AniSky>
But I was thinking more along the lines of, you have a fairly complete whitepaper to document it. No real reason it couldn't be implemented right now.
<vtomole>
AniSky: You can start implementing it, i would be glad to help :)
<AniSky>
Well, let me poke around for a bit and see what I can come up with.
<AniSky>
If it seems to be working we could totally do it.
<AniSky>
Golang for sure :)
<vtomole>
My email: vtomole@iastate.edu
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<AniSky>
vtomole got it, one min :)
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<AniSky_>
I just had a 10000% crazy idea
<AniSky_>
What if we made it possible via IPFS to make "network" accounts, where your username is your Node ID and your password encrypts access to the JSON file with all your hashes etc.
<AniSky_>
Then, when you make an account, you encrypt that JSON file and publish it on IPFS
<vtomole>
That already exists
<AniSky_>
Oh it does?
<pjz>
well, the idea is there
<pjz>
though there's some other bits about being able to 'friend' other nodes, who you share your keys with somehow
<pjz>
in the meantime, if you want someone to pin some of your data (a website you want to publish via ipfs maybe?) there's https://pinbits.io/
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<AniSky_>
pjz I was referring to network accounts like "AniSky" on my Macbook Pro, and when I sign in on this computer or others it can sync my filesystem.
<AniSky_>
All it has to do to achieve that is encrypt my data, publish the encrypted data to IPFS, maintain an index (also encrypted) that IPNS points to.
<AniSky_>
This would have to be a modified operating system of course, but the idea could be implemented in the browser too.
<vtomole>
looks ipfs a job for ipos
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<pjz>
ipfs isn't POSIX compatible
<AniSky_>
The only requirement is that the last computer I used is online when I sign in on a new computer (by virtue of getting the latest index).
<AniSky_>
Or wait a sec... on IPNS, do you host the hash for your IPNS hash address?
<AniSky_>
No wait, you don't. So the only requirement is that, when signing in on a new computer, the other computer is seeding.
<AniSky_>
And computers update their index from IPNS whenever you sign in.
<AniSky_>
Once they have their index (which is like a normal FS index, but with hashes included), they should be able to retrieve all the data.
<AniSky_>
Given that some of their computers with the data are seeding, that is.
<vtomole>
AniSky_: Ideas are plenty man, just make the prototypes and test if they are good ideas.
<AniSky_>
It's getting late. That sounds like a tomorrow problem. However, I will look into this more :)
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<arkimedes>
hi jbenet Kubuxu lgierth whyrusleeping davidar mappum richardlitt could you look through the morph.is source code and see what you could use to make ipfs better?
<arkimedes>
the main developer was shot and killed 2 weeks ago and it would mean alot for his work to live on
<arkimedes>
its a distributed datastore like IPFS and there was a ui being developed for a distributed irc which you can get if you pull the source and git checkout f-dds
<arkimedes>
if you run a morphis node with the f-dds branch you can see most of it in action
<arkimedes>
there were some tweaks to the ui we had talked about but never got around to finish
<arkimedes>
and if someone could pass this message along to haadcode who's working on Orbit I'd really appreciate it
<arkimedes>
especially since the morphis version of distributed chatroom was being made to be able to be fully functional without any javascript
<arkimedes>
heres a backup of the code including all branches (which is also currently still available on the official morph.is git repo until the servers go offline
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<t0dd[m]>
Okay. I am a n00b and just started playing with ipfs. I see that API and GATEWAY setting in the config file... My IPFS instance is running on a headless linux workstation (no X). How would I do https://<IP OF WORKSTATION>:5001/webui ?
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<t0dd[m]>
Would have have to do some port-forwarding or ssh tunneling or some such?
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<t0dd[m]>
Or is there something more obvious?
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<victor_mobile>
Bind it to 0.0.0.0 instead of localhost
<victor_mobile>
But be aware that it's accessible to everyone knowing about it then, unless you put something in front of it
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<t0dd[m]>
victorbjelkholm_mobile: Yeah, this is ... utterly experimental. I can contain any craziness for the duration.
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<hsanjuan>
t0dd[m]: note that there are bots regularly scanning ipfs-connected peers so the IP WILL become known and probably probed
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<t0dd[m]>
Hmm... I wonder if you can do a cockpit plugin or some such so that you could wrap the service in that. http://cockpit-project.org/
<t0dd[m]>
hsanjuan: Yeah, I figured.
<kpcyrd>
hm, the media.ccc.de mirror on archives.iofs.io doesn't have 33c3 videos (and the symlinks doen't work)
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<t0dd[m]>
hsanjuan: well... 0.0.0.0 didn't work anyway. Hm.
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<Mateon1>
mib_kd743naq: That's very odd, as my daemon is currently on
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<Mateon1>
Ooh, it seems that the republisher was stuck
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<mib_kd743naq>
Mateon1: that's disconcerting... can you share more details what/how got stuck, and what are the steps you are planning to take?
<mib_kd743naq>
asking as I am preparing to run a long-term archive serving myself... ( not there yet, but gathering all datapoints I can )
<Mateon1>
Well, once I interrupted the daemon with ^C, I got a log message: [0;37m15:18:57.088 [31mERROR [0;34mipns-repub: [0mRepublisher failed to republish: process closing [0;37mrepub.go:73[0m
<Mateon1>
(ignore broken ansi/vt color codes)
<Mateon1>
Before ^C everything looked fine
<Mateon1>
That is the first time I ever had issues with my own ipns
<Mateon1>
It seems that IPFS might have actually forgotten what my IPNS entry was... I cannot locally resolve it
<mib_kd743naq>
:/
<Mateon1>
And it's hanging while publishing a new one
<Mateon1>
Let me recompile ipfs, see if that changes anything
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<Mateon1>
Oddly enough, a single core server sucks for compilation...
<mib_kd743naq>
Mateon1: it resolves now fwiw, some days behind
<Mateon1>
Yeah, I am running the script manually once in a while
<Mateon1>
The publish took a while, though
<mib_kd743naq>
so a fluke I suppose...?
<Mateon1>
Probably
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<Mateon1>
Restart + republish fixed it
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<Mateon1>
Still, it's probably a bug if the republisher hang
<mib_kd743naq>
.oO( someone should throw together a script, trawl the issues of all the ipfs/* repos, and get a rough sense of the rate of attrition for all Qm... links )
* mib_kd743naq
might try to do that in couple weeks...
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<Mateon1>
Lol, the compilation has swapped out 254% of my server's RAM
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<pjz>
t0dd[m]: I would use an ssh tunnel; something like ssh remotehost -L5001:localhost:5001 I think
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<pjz>
t0dd[m]: after which you should be able to go to localhost:5001
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<t0dd[m]>
pjz: I ended up doing just that.
<t0dd[m]>
I had to turn on GatewayPorts yes ... in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the ipfs (remote) server and bounce the service.
<t0dd[m]>
And the only port we need to leave open for the typical configuration is 4001... right?
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<mib_kd743naq>
t0dd[m]: only if your node needs to provide "first connection" capability
<mib_kd743naq>
t0dd[m]: afaict once you are part of the swarm/dht ( by initiating a connection to one of the bootstraps ) everything just works from there on
<Mateon1>
Yep, but right now you can only connect to people who have the :4001 port open themselves, there is no forwarding through other nodes. Just like BitTorrent
<mib_kd743naq>
erm... my node is behind double nat, with no ports forwarded in
<mib_kd743naq>
I can publish content just fine ( ipfs.io/ipfs sees it )
<Mateon1>
mib_kd743naq: So, all connections are outbound
<Mateon1>
You can't connect to another node that is NATed, though
<mib_kd743naq>
ah I see what you mean: the reason ipfs.io can see me is because I can directly connect to it
<mib_kd743naq>
there's no "intermediate hop" routing
<mib_kd743naq>
right?
<Mateon1>
I think that's a (planned?) feature in libp2p, but afaik not in IPFS right now
<brodo>
is there something like pastebin on IFPS already?
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<kpcyrd>
hm, how is your ram usage on your ipfs nodes? my node keeps dieing due to OOM on a 500M system that also runs some other things
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<kpcyrd>
doesn't die right away, but it's usually not running when I check after a few days
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<Flyingmana_>
I have one with 462M RES and 4597M VIRT, but i put over 10GB of files into it
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<Flyingmana_>
How can i correctly change the path which ipfs is using for storage?
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<Flyingmana_>
I change the config and still it tries to use the one in my home, which may be because the config lays there?
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<whyrusleeping>
Flyingmana_: right now you have to just put it in a different IPFS_PATH
<whyrusleeping>
the config field was deprecated some time back and not removed
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<Flyingmana_>
I see
<Flyingmana_>
Can i do a pr to remove it from the config file?
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<lgierth>
not yet -- there's a couple more settings that should all be removed in one go
<lgierth>
with an fs-repo-migration
<victor_mobile>
Mateon1 oh, ipfsbin is dead? Should be working fine...
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<voker57>
ipfs appears to be slow on adding many small files. One file of several GB is no problem, several mb/s, but directory full of smaller ones slows to crawl
* mib_kd743naq
is trying his hand at the go-ipfs code: if I have a cid object, how would I get its datastore filename ( depending on the configured sharding ) ?
<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: that would be breaking the abstractions
<whyrusleeping>
what are you trying to do?
<whyrusleeping>
voker57: yeah... its due to disk sync i beleive
<mib_kd743naq>
whyrusleeping: make the `gc failed due to X` error messages more descriptive
<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: hrm... okay
<mib_kd743naq>
I still can't gc locally due to that bug I opened last week ;)
<Kubuxu>
same
<Kubuxu>
it could be small separate tool
<mib_kd743naq>
so instead of calculating the file to delete by hand wanted to see if I can contribute a better error
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<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: hrm... thats har
<whyrusleeping>
d
<mib_kd743naq>
whyrusleeping: ok, I will just do it by hand then
<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: the problem is that the datastore layer is responsible for the transformation
<whyrusleeping>
and we could change the datastore to something different, and if we forget to change that message, then its weird
<mib_kd743naq>
whyrusleeping: valid points
<mib_kd743naq>
whyrusleeping: ideally you should fix the gc bug :D
* whyrusleeping
sighs
<whyrusleeping>
fiiiiine
<mib_kd743naq>
<3
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<mib_kd743naq>
whyrusleeping: I did clean out the bad objects btw, so no rush to get this done
<whyrusleeping>
ah, okay
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<mib_kd743naq>
argh... I finished cleaning up these, and am now stuck here:
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<slothbag>
would I be correct in saying IPFS prefers long lived connections between peers? And that combined with no ability to relay blocks means once your peer slots are full people cannot get unique data from you?
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<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: sorry, if a node is marked as 'raw', it doesnt get traversed (or even fetched) during a tree enumeration
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<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: also, yeah. I think the non-default raw nodes will likely get pushed to 0.4.6
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<achin>
does anyone know offhand how well ipfs supports things that are hashed with someting other than sha256?
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<mib_kd743naq>
achin: funny we were just talking about that ;)
<mib_kd743naq>
achin: tldr: everything works except for --raw-leaves ( and of course you got to assemble he blocks on your own )
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<achin>
but once somone does that, fetching seems to be ok?
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<mib_kd743naq>
achin: each cell in the table is a link - see for yourself ;)
<achin>
cool!
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<whyrusleeping>
mib_kd743naq: the fix to that issue should be to make the 'raw dag node' contain a cid prefix in the same way that a protoNode does
<whyrusleeping>
if you wanna take a hack at fixing that before i get to it this week i wouldnt mind ;)
<whyrusleeping>
taktoa: whats all that magic haskel code?
<taktoa>
whyrusleeping: it parses the XML output from the Qt documentation generator, the ultimate intention is to have it generate purescript-native (C++11 backend for PS) bindings for Qt and other libraries automatically
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<taktoa>
I noticed that disabling the HasCallStack constraints on a lot of functions actually made it slightly slower, which I thought was really weird, and I wanted to share the code with people on #haskell
<taktoa>
so I uploaded it to IPFS and then asked my friend how to make it as permanent as feasibly possible and he said I should !pin it but I'm guessing that doesn't work anymore
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<whyrusleeping>
taktoa: the pinbot works, but it only listens to certain people (to avoid abuse)
<whyrusleeping>
i'll pin it for you though, looks neat
<taktoa>
makes sense
<taktoa>
thanks lol
<whyrusleeping>
!pin QmVLJcR4WFnapWm84CHGsyPf6TdKL7Fy5U5UMLCCCV6Cjm qt haskel parser code fun stuff
<pinbot>
now pinning /ipfs/QmVLJcR4WFnapWm84CHGsyPf6TdKL7Fy5U5UMLCCCV6Cjm