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<kpcyrd>
hmm.. I'm thinking about running a static website on ipfs. I'm wondering if it might make sense to use ephemeral ipfs nodes in docker so I don't have to worry about pinning/unpinning
<kpcyrd>
and it would allow me to have a clean build pipleline
<kpcyrd>
any thoughts on this?
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<kpcyrd>
basically, I build an ipfs container, then put my compiled website into it and `ipfs add -r` it
<kpcyrd>
then I take the final container and deploy it somewhere
<kpcyrd>
the issue is that I can't use ipns in this case because the node id would change every time, or I bake the private key into the image
<kpcyrd>
another concern is that high traffic might overload the server faster than plain nginx and I would have to run a dual server setup with one server facing webtraffic, the other one seeding the files in case the web node is down
<kpcyrd>
(input welcome)
<M-kalmi>
You don't have to use ipns. Your TXT record could point to /ipfs/something too if you are okay with slow updates (dns ttl).
<M-kalmi>
Or you could do your ipns updates independently of the dual servers.
<kpcyrd>
Are ipns records cached in the dht if they don't get queried? if the server is overloaded, it might fail to update it properly
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<M-kalmi>
Yes, for some time
<M-kalmi>
Hm, or... i am not sure
<M-kalmi>
I am sure that gateways cache them, but that's all i really know.
<yyxxrrtt>
curious about records and their use in resource discovery, is there a plan to extend ipfs to allow allocating and deallocating distributed resources?
<yyxxrrtt>
and by "extend" I guess I mean in the way ipfs is talked about
<yyxxrrtt>
could already exist
<hexkey[m]>
as in federating with other distributed ecosystems like bittorrent? if so, that'd be pretty neat
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<TheKysek[m]>
test
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<TheKysek[m]>
Ok, thanks, I wonder what is the latency
<Mateon1>
TheKysek[m]: Can you see my message? If not, I think we need to be directly connected
<Mateon1>
I'm getting a ping of 29-36 milliseconds to your node, 31.5 average
<Mateon1>
Pubsub should be about that latency, there isn't much going on there
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<kevina>
keks keks[m] keks[m]1: what timezone are you in
<kevina>
and why so many usernames?
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<keks[m]>
CET. I usually use matrix, that's keks[m], but I have irssi in an ssh tmux session open as fallback. and then matrix/irc bridges are buggy so I might be here twice...not sure
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<keks[m]>
kevina: ^^^
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<kevina>
okay, I figured it was Europe but just checking
<vivus>
how can you create a system where if your files are distributed, you can ensure that every file is hosted and that no files drop off or become hosted by just 1 host?
<kevina>
keks[m] are you also "keks"?
<keks[m]>
yes, that's my irssi fallback session
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<kevina>
ok
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<timthelion[m]>
Is it possible to have more than one ipns identity? For example, one per git repo?
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<Mateon1>
timthelion[m]: Yes, `ipfs key`
<timthelion[m]>
@Mateon1 thanks.
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<vivus>
how can you create a system where if your files are distributed, you can ensure that every file is hosted and that no files drop off or become hosted by just 1 host?
<Mateon1>
dsal: Does that use something from 0.4.9? I get an unrecognized node type, looks like a different sharding format
<Mateon1>
The gateway works, though
<lemmi>
hm.. i get the same error
<emunand[m]>
yes, it's 0.4.9 only
<emunand[m]>
gateway will work fine though
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<vivus>
wouldn't DNS requests to the distributed wikipedia clone be blocked then?
<charlienyc[m]>
emunand: thanks for the info
<emunand[m]>
vivus: behind every dnslink, there is an ipns hash, and behind that, there is a ipfs hash
<charlienyc[m]>
I think Wikipedia would like to work on long term solutions, and they aren't equipped to do that in-house
<emunand[m]>
it would be almost impossible to block all the recently updated hashes
<charlienyc[m]>
A working beta and a giant grant would probably help get to v 1, no?
<stevenaleach>
Setting up shared machine-learning/GPU server@ a hackerspace: I have a 230GB drive as an IPFS partition, StorageMax just a few gig shy of free formatted space. Am I correct in thinking users can keep datasets they are currently working on in cache by reading them once without pinning and that garbage collection will keep most used data in the local cache?
<charlienyc[m]>
I mean, an already working beta
<emunand[m]>
it's already a working beta, no?
<emunand[m]>
i get around 500 peers, but i heard the most people got were 700
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<charlienyc[m]>
Also, any thoughts on how to get around DNS blocking for ipns? Or is that distributed too?
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<dsal>
Which DNS blocking do you mean? like, the TXT record that's looked up to match against the Host header in a / request?
<mmuller>
charlienyc[m]: I'm in NYC.
<charlienyc[m]>
I'm not sure, but Turkey does some serious deep packet inspection, has blocked the entirety of Wikipedia, and changing my DNS server doesn't do anything. Though vpns over SSH work. Openvpn eventually gets stopped (~15 mins) and SOCKS doesn't work at all
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<dsal>
Hmm... I guess I don't know the attack. So you're worried about actually resolving IPNS names altogether?
<dsal>
i.e., they might intercept an IPNS request and block it somehow?
<charlienyc[m]>
But that's only if you need to grab it from the www
<charlienyc[m]>
If I can grab from a local cache...
<charlienyc[m]>
But if we were to go that route, it would need to be searchable locally too
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<emunand>
dsal: they could be able to intercept ipns hashes, but i don't think it would stop much because the ipfs hash is still there, they just block the re-director. it's like trying to block a website by blocking google; the website is still there, just not easily accessible
<emunand>
also im going to suspect that there has been no activity for 10 minutes because of riot crashing
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<dsal>
Are all the wikipedia links ipns?
<emunand>
yes, and because of this, they are linked to ipfs links as well
<dsal>
Sure... it'd be painful, but awesome to have an entirely sefl-contained one with only ipfs links.
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<vivus>
when in a situation like that, why would one require wikipedia and instead would want to get to safety?
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<dsal>
knowledge is power.
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<stevenaleach>
Question: Is garbage collection automated at all yet, ie will unpinned blocks be removed when new content is added once StorageMax is reached or only when 'repo gc' is run?
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<Mateon1>
There is an --enable-gc flag for ipfs daemon that enabled automatic GC, but I'm not sure how stable it is
<wak-work>
will `ipfs name publish`
<wak-work>
keep republishing the content after expiry
<wak-work>
i assume i probably just need to script something to keep track of this?
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